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Champion Power Equipment 4250W Open Frame Gas Inverter Generator

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Amazon has Champion Power Equipment 4250W Open Frame Gas Inverter Generator (200954) on sale for $419.82. Shipping is free.

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  • 224cc Champion engine produces 4250 starting watts and 3500 running watts, and runs for 22 hours at 25% load when the 4-gallon fuel tank is full
  • With a 0.6-quart oil capacity (included 10W-30) and a low oil shut-off sensor, this inverter operates at 64 dBA from 23 feet
  • The covered outlets in this RV Ready inverter include a 120V 30A RV (TT-30R), two 120V 20A household outlets (5-20R) plus two handy 2.1A USB ports you can use to power your phone, laptop, or similar device

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    • Rating of 4.6 from over 4,300 Amazon customer reviews.
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Amazon has Champion Power Equipment 4250W Open Frame Gas Inverter Generator (200954) on sale for $419.82. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Deal Hunter gaamn114 for finding this deal.

Note, product must be sold/shipped by Amazon

Features (details):
  • 224cc Champion engine produces 4250 starting watts and 3500 running watts, and runs for 22 hours at 25% load when the 4-gallon fuel tank is full
  • With a 0.6-quart oil capacity (included 10W-30) and a low oil shut-off sensor, this inverter operates at 64 dBA from 23 feet
  • The covered outlets in this RV Ready inverter include a 120V 30A RV (TT-30R), two 120V 20A household outlets (5-20R) plus two handy 2.1A USB ports you can use to power your phone, laptop, or similar device

Editor's Notes

Written by Discombobulated | Staff
  • About this deal:
    • This price is $576.93 lower (58% savings) than the list price of $994 and close to this previous Frontpage Deal from December.
  • About this product:
    • Rating of 4.6 from over 4,300 Amazon customer reviews.
  • About this store:
  • Please read the Forum Thread for more deal discussion.

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Doait
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If you are mechanically inclined yes. It's not too hard to convert but some additional tools might need to be bought.. making the conversion expensive (if you want to be safe). Leak Detectors, fitting, hoses (additional than kit). lots of trial and error your first time and drilling holes in plastic and making it look good takes some experience. worth it though...as propane and NG is stable and storage is way easier. if anything take your time. think and don't rush it. it will turn out well. warranty voided of course...

though the 200 or so more for the dual fuel model might save a lot of headaches. and you get a warranty with a small engine (which has value). what is 200 now anyways...one trip to the store?

obviously you can decide. I have done both. pros to both... but voiding a warranty can be a huge cost.
TheGreatDonkey
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Per Champions own Specs, it is a 4gal tank.

https://www.championpowerequipmen...-inverter/

I have the Tractor Supply version of this model, it's a cost effective way to get clean power through the open inverter design and keep more sensitive electronics running in a power outage.

Happy dealhunting.

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Jan 10, 2023
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amajr316
Jan 10, 2023
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This is a good deal for an inverter generator. People have adapted these to run on NG or LP, as well. It won't be as quiet as one of those small enclosed inverters, but it will provide clean power that will be safer for sensitive electronics. Will run a good portion of your needs, and will be fairly fuel efficient.
Jan 10, 2023
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shedeus
Jan 10, 2023
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For the uninitiated, could someone explain how this hooks up to a home to power the breaker during an outage?

Do I have to have an electrician perform a bunch if mods to the breaker to make this happen?
Jan 10, 2023
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OPTICSOURCE
Jan 10, 2023
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Is there a difference in efficiency between gasoline and natural gas? Generators?
Jan 10, 2023
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amajr316
Jan 10, 2023
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Not an apples-to-apples comparison, as this device is not an inverter. It is equivalent in the power it provides, but definitely a different category of device, as it will not provide the clean power of an inverter.
Jan 10, 2023
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Dr. J
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Quote from touche112 :
I've seen info online about converting gasoline generators to NG. Has anyone attempted such a conversion with the retail kits that are available? Is it safe?
Quote from Doait :
If you are mechanically inclined yes. It's not too hard to convert but some additional tools might need to be bought.. making the conversion expensive (if you want to be safe). Leak Detectors, fitting, hoses (additional than kit). lots of trial and error your first time and drilling holes in plastic and making it look good takes some experience. worth it though...as propane and NG is stable and storage is way easier. if anything take your time. think and don't rush it. it will turn out well. warranty voided of course...

though the 200 or so more for the dual fuel model might save a lot of headaches. and you get a warranty with a small engine (which has value). what is 200 now anyways...one trip to the store?

obviously you can decide. I have done both. pros to both... but voiding a warranty can be a huge cost.

If done properly, yes safe BUT you're going to take a huge hit in kw rating. Generally kw rating goes gasoline>propane>ng. Here's a Champion model that's trifuel [championpowerequipment.com] (not saying it's comparable to this model but just an example of the kw reduction):
gasoline: 10/8
propane: 9/7.2
ng: 8.75/7 (~-13% kw)

Other things to think about - propane and ng will be a heck of a lot cleaner on the engine, but propane might not be super feasible in most consumer applications where all you have are the 20lb tanks.
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amajr316
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Quote from shedeus :
For the uninitiated, could someone explain how this hooks up to a home to power the breaker during an outage?

Do I have to have an electrician perform a bunch if mods to the breaker to make this happen?
The short version is that you will need to have an electrician put in a double-breaker, an interlock switch, and run wiring to a box mounted on the outside of the house that you will then plug the generator in to.

If you do not have the right spaces available in your existing box, an additional 'sub-panel' can be added to do this... either way, it is some work, and will incur some costs to you. The nice thing is that this is usually a 'one and done'... meaning that if you switch out your generator, you likely will not need to do much, if anything, to your existing setup in order to use the new generator.
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Quote from shedeus :
For the uninitiated, could someone explain how this hooks up to a home to power the breaker during an outage?

Do I have to have an electrician perform a bunch if mods to the breaker to make this happen?
This is a 120V generator..... not even sure an electrician would wire such a thing, frankly, as it would only serve half of a panel. If so they'd likely want to install a transfer switch and sub panel, dual wiring essential circuits. I've never agreed with that method, as not only is it crazy expensive, but you're going to be handicapped in what you can run, and probably be running extension cords around. That sounds like a huge PITA, especially when you can get 240V generators for not much more $$, and TBT if you do that in the future, all that transfer switch/sub panel shit will need to be reworked anyway. PLUS if you go 240V, there are FAR simpler and cheaper methods to safely tie in a generator to your panel, like less than a few hundred $$ whereas the other method (switch/panel) is going to likely cost thousands $$$.


Quote from amajr316 :
This is a good deal for an inverter generator. People have adapted these to run on NG or LP, as well. It won't be as quiet as one of those small enclosed inverters, but it will provide clean power that will be safer for sensitive electronics. Will run a good portion of your needs, and will be fairly fuel efficient.
The main benefits are fuel efficiency and reduced noise. I have yet to find a source that can substantiate the "sensitive electronics" argument, so I wouldn't buy an inverter based on that. Inverters can also be daisy chained for kw scalability.

Quote from YingTK :
How much are we typically looking at to have an electrician hook this to the panel with a switch?
Quote from SociableRecess780 :
It is 4 gallons, I got one two weeks ago
Quote from myers6486 :
Manual listed on linked Amazon shows it is a 2.9 gallon tank.
Champion's site [championpowerequipment.com] says 4 gal. I'd trust that over anything else.

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Quote from amajr316 :
The short version is that you will need to have an electrician put in a double-breaker, an interlock switch, and run wiring to a box mounted on the outside of the house that you will then plug the generator in to.

If you do not have the right spaces available in your existing box, an additional 'sub-panel' can be added to do this... either way, it is some work, and will incur some costs to you. The nice thing is that this is usually a 'one and done'... meaning that if you switch out your generator, you likely will not need to do much, if anything, to your existing setup in order to use the new generator.

The interlock kit is the most cost effective way, but I don't know if it's legit to tie both hots in the panel (240V) to a 120V generator. I mean, yeah you could do it, make it happen, and it should work, but all it takes is one 240V breaker to be on and you might fry something.
Jan 10, 2023
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gomelkiev
Jan 10, 2023
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is this better one than OP posted?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07KQ2P49Y
more expensive, but has 240v, what parts it will require to connect into electric panel?
thanks
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shedeus
Jan 10, 2023
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Legend. Thank you both so much for the quick answers!!
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Dr. J
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Quote from gomelkiev :
is this better one than OP posted?
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07KQ2P49Y
more expensive, but has 240v, what parts it will require to connect into electric panel?
thanks

More versatile? Yes. Better? That's subjective.

That linked model is 6250W, OPs is 4250W. So, higher rated power. Your linked unit also has 240V, which makes it more versatile as well as easier to tie into a panel.

The above said, the higher powered unit will have a larger engine and also higher fuel consumption at any given load (even idle). Might also be louder.

Personally, unless you have a unique situation (need very low noise, very low fuel consumption, only need to power a few small things, etc), I don't see a particular need to tie yourself to an inverter, and I'd cede toward larger generators that have 240V (you're not going to find a lower kw generator that has 240V, it's just not a practical market to make one)
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YingTK
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Quote from Dr. J :
This is a 120V generator..... not even sure an electrician would wire such a thing, frankly, as it would only serve half of a panel. If so they'd likely want to install a transfer switch and sub panel, dual wiring essential circuits. I've never agreed with that method, as not only is it crazy expensive, but you're going to be handicapped in what you can run, and probably be running extension cords around. That sounds like a huge PITA, especially when you can get 240V generators for not much more $$, and TBT if you do that in the future, all that transfer switch/sub panel shit will need to be reworked anyway. PLUS if you go 240V, there are FAR simpler and cheaper methods to safely tie in a generator to your panel, like less than a few hundred $$ whereas the other method (switch/panel) is going to likely cost thousands $$$.




The main benefits are fuel efficiency and reduced noise. I have yet to find a source that can substantiate the "sensitive electronics" argument, so I wouldn't buy an inverter based on that. Inverters can also be daisy chained for kw scalability.




Champion's site [championpowerequipment.com] says 4 gal. I'd trust that over anything else.
Wow, thanks a lot! Didn't even realize the differences in generators for proper hook up to house panels. Repped!
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Tampafishingcharter
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Quote from Dr. J :
This is a 120V generator..... not even sure an electrician would wire such a thing, frankly, as it would only serve half of a panel. If so they'd likely want to install a transfer switch and sub panel, dual wiring essential circuits. I've never agreed with that method, as not only is it crazy expensive, but you're going to be handicapped in what you can run, and probably be running extension cords around. That sounds like a huge PITA, especially when you can get 240V generators for not much more $$, and TBT if you do that in the future, all that transfer switch/sub panel shit will need to be reworked anyway. PLUS if you go 240V, there are FAR simpler and cheaper methods to safely tie in a generator to your panel, like less than a few hundred $$ whereas the other method (switch/panel) is going to likely cost thousands $$$.




The main benefits are fuel efficiency and reduced noise. I have yet to find a source that can substantiate the "sensitive electronics" argument, so I wouldn't buy an inverter based on that. Inverters can also be daisy chained for kw scalability.




Champion's site [championpowerequipment.com] says 4 gal. I'd trust that over anything else.
Can you provide example of a different method of hooking up rather than a safety interlock switch and sub panel? Thanks
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Quote from Tampafishingcharter :
Can you provide example of a different method of hooking up rather than a safety interlock switch and sub panel? Thanks

The interlock is the best value method - the interlock kits are like $70ish, you need to get a 240V breaker that's sized appropriately, plus probably some sort of outdoor rated (240V) plug and of course wiring and such.

You can always just back feed through a dryer plug, but that's technically not legit. Granted, you're doing the *exact* same thing using the interlock kit, just the interlock kit forces you to turn off the mains in order to turn on the generator breaker. The kit is more of an idiot-proofing than anything else.

The next level is a transfer switch and subpanel - super $$ to install.

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Quote from springchicken :
This is a good deal. Large enough for emergency home backup.

No 240V, so not going to work for most well pumps or central a/c systems but still ok to run your furnace blower for gas heat.

Not portable, definitely recommend a wheel kit if you plan on moving it around.
Agree. I already have a non-inverter 3500W Champion gen but would like to upgrade to an inverter (dual fuel preferably) to keep sensitive elex continue working. But I wanted an inverter gen with a 240V 30A outlet which my existing non-inverter has.

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