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2023 Tesla Model Y + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

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$52,990

$52,990

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

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  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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TofuVic
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If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.

I hope this helps,
Tofu Vic
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Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
AkumaX
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edit: ACTUAL LINK TO DEAL https://www.tesla.com/modely/design (SD's link goes to existing inventory page)
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design

I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:

* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)

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Jan 13, 2023 05:14 PM
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thairicanrobJan 13, 2023 05:14 PM
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Quote from hanabie :
Before you buy, make sure you understand that the threshold is $55k.

The performance model is not eligible.
But at least it looks like the Model 3 performance is eligible!.
Jan 13, 2023 05:14 PM
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Loveday22Jan 13, 2023 05:14 PM
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Quote from vndragonslayer :
are we talking about the same thing.. insuring tesla vs other cars or comparing tesla rates in general?
Insuring Tesla vs other cars.
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vndragonslayerJan 13, 2023 05:14 PM
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Quote from Loveday22 :
Fair enough, I know better than to question you. I agree it is a very subjective matter.

I'm going off of my friend's experience whose insurance skyrocketed when he went from Bolt > Tesla, and whatever I've read on the internet, which points to Tesla just being much more expensive to insurance. I also own a luxury car which you would compare with the Model 3 and it is substantially cheaper to insure.
insurance will also inverse skyrocket to a trash can on wheels..
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vladik4Jan 13, 2023 05:14 PM
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Quote from ihatemyhonda :
With California going all EV in a decade how the hell is the average American gonna be able to afford these? Not everyone is making six figures let alone even above $40k/year.
Only NEW cars will have to be EVs. If you are making $40K/year what are you doing looking at new cars? There will be plenty USED cars for that market.
Jan 13, 2023 05:15 PM
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Loveday22Jan 13, 2023 05:15 PM
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Quote from vndragonslayer :
i wish niche karens would stop bringing up minute details to complain.. just buy an ice car if radar parking sensor is that much more important.. or pay $80k nice taycan
80k Taycan! Where? That's impossible price to obtain from what I have seen.
Jan 13, 2023 05:15 PM
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EliteDealHunterJan 13, 2023 05:15 PM
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Quote from vndragonslayer :
are we talking about the same thing.. insuring tesla vs other cars or comparing tesla rates in general?
Tesla was more expensive to insure in general in my case compared to my other cars with the same MSRP and, separately, Tesla's own insurance was much higher cost than my regular insurance company. Just a datapoint.
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vndragonslayerJan 13, 2023 05:15 PM
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Quote from Loveday22 :
Insuring Tesla vs other cars.
theyre all relatively the same.. a $60k car vs 60k car will have almost same premium sans risk factor like magnet for catalytic theft and wheels etc..

stop comparing trash can bolt/civic vs $60k tesla pre tax era.

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Jan 13, 2023 05:15 PM
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Loveday22Jan 13, 2023 05:15 PM
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Quote from vndragonslayer :
insurance will also inverse skyrocket to a trash can on wheels..
The Tesla is substantially more expensive to insure than a comparable luxury car. I am not comparing with trash can on wheels.
Jan 13, 2023 05:16 PM
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Abhi88Jan 13, 2023 05:16 PM
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Quote from SDzZz :
$200 a year? That can't be correct. Have you taken into consideration maintenance cost of an EV? ICE requires an oil change usually once every 6 months at a minimum which runs an average $50 these days * 2.. $100 just in oil changes..
this is my calculation for 8k miles
$500 gas + $100 oil change(2 changes per year 5000 miles once)


for EV 4Kw/100 miles with $0.20 $350 per year. So $200-300 difference per year.
(Do consider, the EV range goes down in winters by almost 1/3rd)
Jan 13, 2023 05:16 PM
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NattefrostJan 13, 2023 05:16 PM
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Didnt the model Y have a lot of issues with build quality
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vndragonslayerJan 13, 2023 05:16 PM
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Quote from EliteDealHunter :
Tesla was more expensive to insure in general in my case compared to my other cars with the same MSRP and, separately, Tesla's own insurance was much higher cost than my regular insurance company. Just a datapoint.
this is anacdote
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Jan 13, 2023 05:16 PM
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jaywizJan 13, 2023 05:16 PM
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Hold off and make Elon go lower.
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tai_sonJan 13, 2023 05:16 PM
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Quote from insyder :
Carvana is showing $34k for a 21 MYLR, not looking good
I am looking for a car, so to me, it is looking good.
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Loveday22Jan 13, 2023 05:17 PM
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Quote from vndragonslayer :
theyre all relatively the same.. a $60k car vs 60k car will have almost same premium sans risk factor like magnet for catalytic theft and wheels etc..

stop comparing trash can bolt/civic vs $60k tesla pre tax era.
This is false. There are multiple sources and anecdotes including the one above from EliteDealHunter that would prove otherwise. I am not talking about non-comparable civic or bolt. Tesla is more expensive to insure than comparable luxury cars.
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vndragonslayerJan 13, 2023 05:17 PM
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Quote from Loveday22 :
80k Taycan! Where? That's impossible price to obtain from what I have seen.
if you look hard you can find it.. then again niche karens would complain radar sensor nice car are too expensive compared to 43k m3 rwd post tax credit Smilie

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