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2023 Tesla Model Y + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

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$52,990

$52,990

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

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  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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TofuVic
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If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.

I hope this helps,
Tofu Vic
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Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
AkumaX
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edit: ACTUAL LINK TO DEAL https://www.tesla.com/modely/design (SD's link goes to existing inventory page)
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design

I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:

* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)

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Jan 13, 2023 07:38 PM
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R2KBAJan 13, 2023 07:38 PM
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Quote from happyjeryy :
The price in China is 30,000rmb, around $44,000. Considering the limitations, a lot of people cannot get the 7500 credit. The price in China is still lower than US.
Those are made in China, with cheaper Chinese labor and 95% locally-sourced materials, so of course they're cheaper.
Jan 13, 2023 07:38 PM
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jakuzhiJan 13, 2023 07:38 PM
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Nevermind, just found it in the titles.
Jan 13, 2023 07:39 PM
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MonstBlitzJan 13, 2023 07:39 PM
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Quote from Szyszka :
Negative. 2019. Electric VW Golf for about 15,000 (or less). It was huge (3,848 Replies / 769,120 Views)
Right, I'm not surprised there have been others I just didn't remember seeing them. Thanks for posting the stats on it, we can see if this one surpasses or gets close!
Jan 13, 2023 07:39 PM
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babygdavJan 13, 2023 07:39 PM
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Quote from SDzZz :
Paying cash isn't always the best way to buy a car if you can get a better return elsewhere.
But but but, there's no logic going on here at all with the purchase intent of a Tesla, an EV car. Ie. The original intent of EV cars is to save the earth by reducing energy usage and pollution vs gas cars.

But the mere fact they've included "unnecessary" things like auto pilot, absurd acceleration modes (faster = more energy wasted), energy wasting large displays, etc means most Tesla buyers aren't thinking thrift like fatwalleters used to.

And for EV, the mere fact the Tesla replacement battery costs $10k+ means purchase is typically insane vs lease.

The 4,555 lbs weight alone of this pig would have automatically warned off fatwalleters...
(Heavier weight, more energy used to move it around, more pollution...)

https://cdn.motor1.com/images/cus...210820.png
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Jan 13, 2023 07:40 PM
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NeatCrib197Jan 13, 2023 07:40 PM
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Quote from bluetrep :
Damn, I lost $13500
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Jan 13, 2023 07:40 PM
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UniquePicture513Jan 13, 2023 07:40 PM
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For local roaming why someone needs to buy this expensive EV cars? I recently had long trip from DC to Florida to Texas to Atlanta to DC, with gasoline car I had peace of mind when I calculated the same with EV it was nightmare and atleast another week increase in my vacation time, just my 2 cents
Jan 13, 2023 07:40 PM
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Slayer.I.AmJan 13, 2023 07:40 PM
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Quote from buy_now_think_later :
Anyone knows even though price is 53990 why it's not showing NJ incentive of 2k on order page?
Good question. I checked Model 3 and that is showing 2k incentive instead of the 4k. Not sure what is going on. if you figure it out please reply to my post. Ill do the same.

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Jan 13, 2023 07:41 PM
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THEOHIOSTATEJan 13, 2023 07:41 PM
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You're just repeating someone else's answer over and over. Just admit that you don't know what you're talking about.
Jan 13, 2023 07:41 PM
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NickelAndDime007Jan 13, 2023 07:41 PM
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Quote from Szyszka :
No. Brand new e-Golf for 14000 (or less in CA). It was amazing (3,848 Replies / 769,120 Views)! So is the car (still have it!)

Wave

I dumped the e-Golf same year I got it from that deal. Once winter hit, can't believe I got less than 100 miles of range.
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Jan 13, 2023 07:42 PM
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EliteDealHunterJan 13, 2023 07:42 PM
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Quote from babygdav :
But but but, there's no logic going on here at all with the purchase intent of a Tesla, an EV car. Ie. The original intent of EV cars is to save the earth by reducing energy usage and pollution vs gas cars.

But the mere fact they've included "unnecessary" things like auto pilot, absurd acceleration modes (faster = more energy wasted), energy wasting large displays, etc means most Tesla buyers aren't thinking thrift like fatwalleters used to.

And for EV, the mere fact the Tesla replacement battery costs $10k+ means purchase is typically insane vs lease.

The 4,555 lbs weight alone of this pig would have automatically warned off fatwalleters...
(Heavier weight, more energy used to move it around, more pollution...)

https://cdn.motor1.com/images/cus...210820.png
This is true. If you really want to save the earth don't buy any cars and keep your current car until the wheels fall off. People buying Teslas are buying them because of the extras and they craving for straight line speed (they handle like crap)… if somebody really wants to buy a car that's good for the planet (if you absolutely need a new car and can't keep your current one) then buy a used hybrid.
Jan 13, 2023 07:42 PM
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NickelAndDime007Jan 13, 2023 07:42 PM
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Quote from Slayer.I.Am :
Good question. I checked Model 3 and that is showing 2k incentive instead of the 4k. Not sure what is going on. if you figure it out please reply to my post. Ill do the same.

Order page won't factor in state incentives. Once you order though, in the app, under order details they will have it included.
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Jan 13, 2023 07:43 PM
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MurraytheDemonSkull
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Jan 13, 2023 07:43 PM
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Quote from chaitant :
https://www.nytimes.com/2022/12/1...ation.html
Tesla buyers can opt out of arbitration, and preserve their right to a trial, by sending a letter to the company within a month of buying a car. But few are aware of or exercise that option, plaintiff's lawyers said.

I already sent the letter, I am just curious about what will happen next, such as receiving a confirmation.
Jan 13, 2023 07:43 PM
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EliteDealHunterJan 13, 2023 07:43 PM
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Quote from UniquePicture513 :
For local roaming why someone needs to buy this expensive EV cars? I recently had long trip from DC to Florida to Texas to Atlanta to DC, with gasoline car I had peace of mind when I calculated the same with EV it was nightmare and atleast another week increase in my vacation time, just my 2 cents
Exactly. These cars are terrible for road trips. For local use they are fine but how many people need 200+ miles range for their daily commute?
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SamirPDJan 13, 2023 07:43 PM
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Quote from BraveBoundary369 :
Do Not Buy! I owned a tesla and what they do not tell you the significant increase in insurance costs. Do not even buy tesla insurance cause if you get into an accident you will get screwed. Not to mention horrible customer service and horrible designed cars. There are no loaner cars for you from tesla. Oh phathom braking!! Imagine going 65 miles per hour on highway and the car decides to break for no reason. Do not believe me watch videos of it. Oh in winter you are getting significantly less miles for each charge.
Insurance is on par with other cars in the same price category (I own non-teslas too for comparison). The Tesla insurance is better than state farm in terms of cost by a bit and because it's their insurance they know how to deal with collision repair on the car better which is why other carriers are more. Customer service can be at both ends of the spectrum, as with other car companies, but you don't need regular service so you don't need loaner cars. Never experienced phantom braking, and any device with a battery will have reduced life in a colder environment so that's just the nature of a battery powered beast.

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Jan 13, 2023 07:44 PM
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T2010Jan 13, 2023 07:44 PM
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Tesla website said $7500 rebate until March 2023, what exactly change in March?????

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