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2023 Tesla Model Y + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

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$52,990

$52,990

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

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  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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TofuVic
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If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.

I hope this helps,
Tofu Vic
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Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
AkumaX
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edit: ACTUAL LINK TO DEAL https://www.tesla.com/modely/design (SD's link goes to existing inventory page)
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design

I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:

* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)

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Jan 13, 2023 09:01 PM
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SDzZzJan 13, 2023 09:01 PM
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Quote from babygdav :
But but but, there's no logic going on here at all with the purchase intent of a Tesla, an EV car. Ie. The original intent of EV cars is to save the earth by reducing energy usage and pollution vs gas cars.

But the mere fact they've included "unnecessary" things like auto pilot, absurd acceleration modes (faster = more energy wasted), energy wasting large displays, etc means most Tesla buyers aren't thinking thrift like fatwalleters used to.

And for EV, the mere fact the Tesla replacement battery costs $10k+ means purchase is typically insane vs lease.

The 4,555 lbs weight alone of this pig would have automatically warned off fatwalleters...
(Heavier weight, more energy used to move it around, more pollution...)

https://cdn.motor1.com/images/cus...210820.png [motor1.com]
What does this have anything to do with what I said?
Jan 13, 2023 09:02 PM
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whosyourbabaJan 13, 2023 09:02 PM
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Quote from gammah :
Wasn't there something about taking $7500 off instantly instead of doing it through Federal taxes?
That was end of Dec so they could unload inventory and increase their end of quarter numbers. They dropped base prices by 12k and you can dip federal credit if you qualify
Jan 13, 2023 09:02 PM
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se-riouslyJan 13, 2023 09:02 PM
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Quote from BroSan :
ready to build and order.. can someone give referral
There is no referral credit right now. Only for solar panels.
Last edited by se-riously January 13, 2023 at 02:06 PM.
Jan 13, 2023 09:03 PM
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ninjewJan 13, 2023 09:03 PM
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Quote from winstoon :
If you're making under $150k and buying a $50K car, you're not very responsible with your money. This tax credit seems to encourage people who can't afford this to splurge because yolo. What a silly plan.
Wait a sec...if you're making under $150k and you can afford to purchase a $50k car, wouldn't that mean you're responsible with your money? Since, you know, you can afford to purchase it?
Jan 13, 2023 09:03 PM
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MydiscoverJan 13, 2023 09:03 PM
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Quote from se-riously :
Sounds good. Until you either get audited, or you get into a collision (hope it doesn't happen) where the insurance company is looking for a way to avoid payout. Very easy for them to prove your true residence - neighbor statements, utility bills, financial transactions, etc.
Why would I get audited? For visiting one of my residences? Are you for real? All my financial statements go the the state I have my car registered to. Having Cali utility bills doesnt mean you have to register your car in Cali. Show me a law stating that. Some people have no idea what they are talking about. You can drive to your other residences while you drive a out of state car as long as you have a DL of that other state. If that would get me audited then it's ON like Donkey Kong!
Jan 13, 2023 09:06 PM
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EliteDealHunterJan 13, 2023 09:06 PM
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Quote from Mydiscover :
Why would I get audited? For visiting one of my residences? Are you for real? All my financial statements go the the state I have my car registered to. Having Cali utility bills doesnt mean you have to register your car in Cali. Show me a law stating that. Some people have no idea what they are talking about. You can drive to your other residences while you drive a out of state car as long as you have a DL of that other state. If that would get me audited then it's ON like Donkey Kong!
As long as you spend the majority of your time in the state where the car is registered you're fine. People get burned when they register the car in one state and then live in a different state 80% of the year.
Jan 13, 2023 09:07 PM
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R2KBAJan 13, 2023 09:07 PM
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Quote from Tnyc :
On a serious note, how easy is it to maintain an electric car? No fluid changes and the brakes/rotors last a longggg time?
Not much maintenance at all. Tires, wiper blades, and wiper fluid. Nothing else really. Brakes should last 120k-200k miles easily, thanks to regenerative braking doing most of the work.

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locatedealJan 13, 2023 09:07 PM
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Thanks. Is it 2022 Gross Income or 2023 Gross Income? Thanks
its AGI (Adjusted gross income)

Total Income - adjustments (Adjustments varies year to year, but typically standard ones are like below)

half of the self-employment taxes you pay
self-employed health insurance premiums
alimony payments made to a former spouse (for agreements prior to 2019)
contributions to certain retirement accounts (such as a traditional IRA)
student loan interest paid
Jan 13, 2023 09:08 PM
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MydiscoverJan 13, 2023 09:08 PM
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Quote from EliteDealHunter :
As long as you spend the majority of your time in the state where the car is registered you're fine. People get burned when they register the car in one state and then live in a different state 80% of the year.
Well they have to be smart about that and make sure everything is done correctly.
Jan 13, 2023 09:08 PM
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zmm61Jan 13, 2023 09:08 PM
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Based on the hotness of this topic 125 pages of discussion in half a day, I think TSLA stock will come back to ~ 200 very soon. The demand is quite high to be honest.
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Jan 13, 2023 09:08 PM
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qphan79Jan 13, 2023 09:08 PM
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Quote from babygdav :
But but but, there's no logic going on here at all with the purchase intent of a Tesla, an EV car. Ie. The original intent of EV cars is to save the earth by reducing energy usage and pollution vs gas cars.

But the mere fact they've included "unnecessary" things like auto pilot, absurd acceleration modes (faster = more energy wasted), energy wasting large displays, etc means most Tesla buyers aren't thinking thrift like fatwalleters used to.

And for EV, the mere fact the Tesla replacement battery costs $10k+ means purchase is typically insane vs lease.

The 4,555 lbs weight alone of this pig would have automatically warned off fatwalleters...
(Heavier weight, more energy used to move it around, more pollution...)

https://cdn.motor1.com/images/cus...210820.png
Energy wasting large displays?? I'm more interested in the energy people put into outlandish posts like this…could save the planet right there with this type of thinking!
Jan 13, 2023 09:11 PM
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NavyBorder2767Jan 13, 2023 09:11 PM
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Quote from zmm61 :
Based on the hotness of this topic 125 pages of discussion in half a day, I think TSLA stock will come back to ~ 200 very soon. The demand is quite high to be honest.
Problem is: The profit margin would go down a lot. Remember, Teslas stock was at $415ish all time high. Now trading at ~$120. Nothig goes down in a straight line.

I have been shorting tesla stocks when it was in 300s. Tesla makes good cars but stock is too expensive. Needs to come inline with other auto makers.
Jan 13, 2023 09:13 PM
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javierj1455Jan 13, 2023 09:13 PM
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I'm having second thoughts and thinking of cancelling my order. Do I get the $250 order fee back? I order less than 12hrs ago
Jan 13, 2023 09:13 PM
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AnsonL6358Jan 13, 2023 09:13 PM
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Quote from gen2 :
53,000+6.25% sales tax = $56,300

5yr loan @ 6% interest is $9k, for a grand total of $65,300 !!
Damn I didn't even think about insurance dropping from the discount. Going to keep an eye on that now.

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Jan 13, 2023 09:13 PM
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AnsonL6358Jan 13, 2023 09:13 PM
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Quote from javierj1455 :
I'm having second thoughts and thinking of cancelling my order. Do I get the $250 order fee back? I order less than 12hrs ago
No you do not.

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