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2023 Tesla Model Y + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

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$52,990

$52,990

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

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  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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TofuVic
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If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.

I hope this helps,
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Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
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edit: ACTUAL LINK TO DEAL https://www.tesla.com/modely/design (SD's link goes to existing inventory page)
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design

I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:

* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)

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Jan 15, 2023 03:24 PM
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PgaJan 15, 2023 03:24 PM
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Quote from JellyBellyMD :
Hey Chief, here it is again. And a link.

https://www.bmwofsouthaustin.com/...hedule.htm


Recommended Maintenance Schedule
Depending on how and where you drive, and in what conditions, the amount and type of maintenance your BMW will need will vary. Read your owner's manual for a detailed breakdown of common service tasks, but here's what you can expect:

Every 10,000 miles, or yearly: replace engine oil, oil filter, and coolant
Every 20,000 miles, or every two years: inspect and replace fuel filters
Every 30,000 miles, or every three years:
Replace brake fluid (after the first replacement, every 60,000 miles)
Replace transmission fluid on manual-transmission BMWs
Every 60,000 miles, or every six years:
Replace engine air filter and spark plugs
Inspect and replace brake pads and brake rotors, as necessary
Replace transmission fluid on automatic-transmission BMWs
Every 90,000 miles, or every nine years: replace timing belts and hoses
After 90,000 miles, repeat the above cycle, and always keep up your 5,000-mile basic maintenance structure. Also remember that your BMW's New Vehicle Limited Warranty will expire at 50,000 miles, so it's a good idea to get covered repairs done before then. You'll also want to replace the battery around the 50,000-mile mark.
Aaaah ok so you found some dated recommendation list by a DEALERSHIP, not the MANUFACTURER....which is what I posted. Got it. They will recommend whatever they want to make sales.

You going to keep ignoring the fact the list you posted recommends changing Timing BELT @ 90k miles while there is no BMW engine that utilizes timing BELTS???

An alleged "car expert" like you should know the difference between timing chain and timing belt.....but maybe not since you believe there's "AWD fluid"
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ikonoklastJan 15, 2023 03:24 PM
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Quote from SharpArm7549 :
Phantom braking is definitely an issue. It's also definitely not what happened in this case—the car continued braking to a full stop instead of just for a second. This is only possible through gross negligence of the driver.

The Full Self Driving BETA works exactly as the name suggests, and couldn't possibly make it any more clear that the driver needs to remain attentive.
There is nothing BETA about naming something FULL SELF DRIVING and charging customers $15k while it does not work as advertised or named. Tesla is treating its customers like the video game industry, shipping out and charging customers for the unfinished end product. It's wrong in the video game industry and it's wrong for Tesla to falsely name and advertise FSD.
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mychaelpJan 15, 2023 03:25 PM
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Quote from EliteDealHunter :
It's easy to determine. Just look at your tax liability from last year.

Also, you don't get the credit when you buy the car so there's nothing to "give back". The credit is applied to your 2023 taxes that you will file in 2024.
I owed a total of $1.2k after all my deductions last year, so this tax credit would help me, but not nearly as much as someone who makes more money.
This tax credit doesn't help the average earner much. The more you make, the more you get back. Up to a certain limit, but it's for higher earners really.
Average tax is $4.5k before deductions for most Americans.
Jan 15, 2023 03:26 PM
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RoyGeeBivJan 15, 2023 03:26 PM
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Quote from Pga :
yeah much less maintenance.....that explains all those over the air patches.

Instead of preventive maintenance, you get paid subscriptions to unlock car features you paid for once when you bought the vehicle. That is making Tesla a LOT more money than prevention manitenance
You guys are trying too hard. Updates are free, and OTA. Nobody is forcing you to buy any features or subs. LOL! Where did the bad Tesla man touch you?
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whocares1Jan 15, 2023 03:27 PM
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Why there is no leather seats. The seats of Tesla does not look good.
Jan 15, 2023 03:28 PM
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RoyGeeBivJan 15, 2023 03:28 PM
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Quote from AlexK6706 :
$7 500 is $7 500 buddy. 20% off + $7500 credit is the only way to get this chit off the lot.
Umm... for the last two years Tesla hasnt even qualified for the 7500 rebate. Still sold every one they could make.
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SharpArm7549Jan 15, 2023 03:29 PM
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Quote from AlexK6706 :
$7 500 is $7 500 buddy. 20% off + $7500 credit is the only way to get this chit off the lot.
Nobody believes your lies when they are so easily proven false by actual numbers.

Q4 2022: ~30% year-over-year sales growth, on top of the price per car being ~30% higher than in Q4 2021.
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mattymsu25Jan 15, 2023 03:30 PM
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Quote from RoyGeeBiv :
Umm... for the last two years Tesla hasnt even qualified for the 7500 rebate. Still sold every one they could make.
That isn't true at all. Next.
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mychaelpJan 15, 2023 03:31 PM
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Quote from Pga :
Aaaah ok so you found some dated recommendation list by a DEALERSHIP, not the MANUFACTURER....which is what I posted. Got it. They will recommend whatever they want to make sales.

You going to keep ignoring the fact the list you posted recommends changing Timing BELT @ 90k miles while there is no BMW engine that utilizes timing BELTS???

An alleged "car expert" like you should know the difference between timing chain and timing belt.....but maybe not since you believe there's "AWD fluid"
People here don't have the maintenance figured per reality.
In reality 90% of Teslas are under full warranty. So barely any have much in maintenance costs to compare with.
Many car makers give 2 years free maintenance, and the same 4 year warranty as Tesla.

Add the mark-up for Tesla Model 3 which is build similar to a Camry but costs $15k or more than it, it would take many years to recoup the extra.
Then factor in higher registration and insurance costs over the years that will go higher over time. Including per mile charges some states are looking at, so they can recoup the gas tax somehow from EV's.

Also after 20 years, will a Tesla still drive as well as my 25 year old 98Z3?
$30k new, and I've spent maybe $10k in repairs over the years.

I want to buy an EV, but they are mainly for higher earners right now, and not a proven tech yet.
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rrc06Jan 15, 2023 03:32 PM
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Quote from AlexK6706 :
Here we go again. So no cabin air filter? No brake fluid? No tires and brake pads? No wipers? No squeaks and rattles? LMAO

I get it that most tesla owners can't afford maintenance on top of $500 payment for their luxury super car, but can you at least try to manage the spread of misinformation?
Brakes last 2-3x longer than ice. I'll let you do your research to figure out why that is.

if you enjoy getting screwed with your oil/filter, timing belt and water pump issues, have at it. maybe if you get off Slickdeal forums and get a job you can afford a Tesla one day like many on this thread have

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Quote from RoyGeeBiv :
You guys are trying too hard. Updates are free, and OTA. Nobody is forcing you to buy any features or subs. LOL! Where did the bad Tesla man touch you?
Repair under warranty are free too. And no one is forcing you to get preventive maintenance on ICE cars either. If software bug or electrical failure bricks some part of your Tesla you will be still stranded just the same until a patch is available.
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rrc06Jan 15, 2023 03:33 PM
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Quote from mattymsu25 :
That isn't true at all. Next.
It is true. Original ev credit expired March of 2020 and was pretty low by then at $1875

https://www.forbes.com/sites/seba...n-5-weeks/
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Quote from whocares1 :
Why there is no leather seats. The seats of Tesla does not look good.
cause "vegan leather"...what use to be called faux pleather..... is the thing when your are mostly marking to very left spectrum crowd. As I recall the crazy PETA types shamed Telsa into removing all leather from the cars. Musk happily complied to decontent the cars.
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SharpArm7549Jan 15, 2023 03:34 PM
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Quote from ikonoklast :
There is nothing BETA about naming something FULL SELF DRIVING and charging customers $15k while it does not work as advertised or named. Tesla is treating its customers like the video game industry, shipping out and charging customers for the unfinished end product. It's wrong in the video game industry and it's wrong for Tesla to falsely name and advertise FSD.
You do know that buying the FSD Beta is not required to purchase a Tesla, right? If you don't think it's worth $15k (and as a matter of fact, I don't either!) why would you buy it?

Full Self Driving Beta is named and advertised accurately. Idiots who can't read or pay attention are the problem. Like the people who think "autopilot" is a misleading name because "planes on autopilot fly themselves from airport to airport with no pilot input" (they don't).

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boogakJan 15, 2023 03:35 PM
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Quote from boogi2woogie :
Driven teslas for years.

Phantom braking is a tiny issue. I get it once maybe once every 2-3 hours and it is easy to override. You just drive the car for a second and then put it back on autopilot. Amazing, I know.

I think the only people it really bothers are the ones who are completely disengaged from driving, with their feet off the pedals and hands off the wheel. Then sure, it will take you a few seconds to take control of the car while you slow from 75 to 55 mph. Super unnerving when you're watching a movie or browsing slickdeals with two hands on your cell phone.

Even with phantom braking, autopilot is probably still a better driver.
It's a minor day to day inconvenience until an inattentive driver behind you rear ends you. Then you might not have use of the car for weeks since you have to use Tesla's body shop for repairs, and anecdotally I've read of long waits.

Just not worth the risk for me when I had my Model 3, and yes I was attentive with autopilot, always had my foot on accelerate ready to take over.

Autopilot was still great for long road trips with light traffic.

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