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2023 Tesla Model Y + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit

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$52,990

$52,990

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

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  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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Tesla has dropped the base price of the Tesla Model Y from $65,990 down to $52,990. This price reduction means the Model Y now qualifies for the $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (details here).

Thanks to Community Member MurraytheDemonSkull for finding this deal.

Additionally, the base prices of all Tesla vehicles have been reduced. The base Model 3 is now $43,990, which is $3,000 lower than before. The Model 3 Performance is now $53,990, which is $9,000 lower than before, and now qualifies for the tax credit.

Editor's Notes

Written by RazorConcepts
  • This is $13,000 lower (19% savings) than the previous base price.
  • Factoring in the tax credit, the price of the Model Y today is $20,000 less than one purchased in December 2022.
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300,000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225,000 for heads of households
    • $150,000 for all other filers
  • The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due.
  • Refer to the forum thread for additional deal discussion.

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TofuVic
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If anyone is interested in hard numbers to figure out how much less expensive it is now compared to Tesla's best deal of 2022 - $7,500 discount with 10,000 free Supercharger miles - I bought a Tesla Model Y Long Range 7-Seater with white interior in late December 2022.

Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.

For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.

I hope this helps,
Tofu Vic
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Tesla plans to add a new radar product to its vehicles in mid-January, according to documents posted with the Federal Communications Commission.

The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.

The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.

And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.

The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.

Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.

Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.

"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.

He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.

Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.

i hope this answers your question
AkumaX
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edit: ACTUAL LINK TO DEAL https://www.tesla.com/modely/design (SD's link goes to existing inventory page)
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design

I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:

* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)

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Jan 18, 2023 03:14 PM
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gotoee37000Jan 18, 2023 03:14 PM
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Quote from dealhunt_101 :
Agree 100%

Doesn't need to be a Tesla approved electrician, but you do need one who's certified. It will cost a couple hundred more, at the most, but I wouldn't want to take chances of a failed inspection, or at the worst a potential fire hazard or short circuit. Don't nickel and dime when you're buying a 50k car.

Also, remember that most utilities will cover the cost of installation. If they don't, there are Fed incentives that I've posted here earlier, that will give you back 30%. Just google EV incentives and there are tons of online resources.
is the ssn or something needed from the installer to file the 30% text credit?
Jan 18, 2023 03:15 PM
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pugxiwawaJan 18, 2023 03:15 PM
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Quote from gotoee37000 :
Any infor. when tesla will add back those radar sensors and change the 3-1.2mp to 2-5.0 mp cameras? even a same year model could have different configurations?
No to first question, no one knows. Yes to your second question. It is common tesla adds or removes features throughout the year. They are not constrained by model year so they can get the changes out whenever they see fit.
Jan 18, 2023 03:16 PM
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juggarJan 18, 2023 03:16 PM
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Quote from gotoee37000 :
is the ssn or something needed from the installer to file the 30% text credit?
Be aware most online tax filing websites/programs do not allow for filing this form. You'll have to do it manually or hire an actual tax pro. Its total BS but HR block for example does not support this form.
Jan 18, 2023 03:19 PM
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thinh4u2Jan 18, 2023 03:19 PM
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Quote from juggar :
Be aware most online tax filing websites/programs do not allow for filing this form. You'll have to do it manually or hire an actual tax pro. Its total BS but HR block for example does not support this form.
How about for the 7500 ev tax credit?
Jan 18, 2023 03:25 PM
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juggarJan 18, 2023 03:25 PM
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Quote from thinh4u2 :
How about for the 7500 ev tax credit?
That one is easy to claim, in fact my return with it was already accepted by the IRS , even before the official start. They do some live test batches early. I ended up not claiming the the EV charger credit since it would have only been $250 for me and I was getting a $5200 refund and just wanted it ASAP.
Jan 18, 2023 03:27 PM
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CycloneFWJan 18, 2023 03:27 PM
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Quote from juggar :
Be aware most online tax filing websites/programs do not allow for filing this form. You'll have to do it manually or hire an actual tax pro. Its total BS but HR block for example does not support this form.
TurboTax supports this. Don't know if they have it ready for the 2022 filing yet, but they have had it for prior years.
Jan 18, 2023 03:27 PM
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CycloneFWJan 18, 2023 03:27 PM
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Quote from gotoee37000 :
is the ssn or something needed from the installer to file the 30% text credit?
No. Just a receipt for the work in case the IRS follows up asking for evidence to substantiate the claim.

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2023 Tesla Model 3 is the only Tesla electric car recommended by Consumer Reports
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/other/only-1-tesla-model-is-recommended-by-consumer-reports-in-2023/... [msn.com]
Jan 18, 2023 03:32 PM
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ahtexas07Jan 18, 2023 03:32 PM
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Can you share the name of it? Thanks
It is the community credit union that is not widely available. Another credit union that I use is Houston Federal Credit Union.
Jan 18, 2023 03:35 PM
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sillar68Jan 18, 2023 03:35 PM
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Quote from pugxiwawa :
Stupidly fast acceleration, 1-pedal driving, quiet, no maintenance, advance technology in autopilot and FSD, no key, sentry mode, dog mode, spacious interior, lots of space in sub trunk, perfect family car, awesome charging network, and most importantly - SAFETY. This is the safest car on the road today and I won't hesitate having my family in it.
laugh out loudlaugh out loudlaugh out loud

half of your points are DUE to it being an EV!
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Jan 18, 2023 03:38 PM
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pugxiwawaJan 18, 2023 03:38 PM
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Quote from sillar68 :


half of your points are DUE to it being an EV!
and? only 1-pedal drive and charging network are pertained to EV exclusively. Rest still valid comparison to ICE car.
Jan 18, 2023 03:40 PM
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UseridnameJan 18, 2023 03:40 PM
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what if I book the car but tesla doesn't deliver it by March? I guess I can cancel and I loose 250 bucks too?
Jan 18, 2023 03:42 PM
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bradmanJan 18, 2023 03:42 PM
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Quote from ahtexas07 :
It is the community credit union that is not widely available. Another credit union that I use is Houston Federal Credit Union.
Members Choice Credit Union (MCCU) in the Houston area has 2,19% for new autos for 36 months finance.
Jan 18, 2023 03:46 PM
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pugxiwawaJan 18, 2023 03:46 PM
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Quote from chazjr :
2023 Tesla Model 3 is the only Tesla electric car recommended by Consumer Reports
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/other/only-1-tesla-model-is-recommended-by-consumer-reports-in-2023/... [msn.com]
friends don't let friends read consumer reports, especially on ev. get real feedback from real owners, ask questions and concerns. that is far more constructive than some reporter spending a day in car they are reviewing.

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Jan 18, 2023 03:49 PM
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topchoJan 18, 2023 03:49 PM
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Quote from yhr707 :
What pugxiwawa said was correct and this statement above is wrong. The government will not send you the 7500 credit if you are owed $10000 on your original tax return. They will only send you the $10000 owed.
The tax credit will only reduce your liability for what you owe. You're better off just reducing the amount you prepay in taxes so you have that liability at the end of the year.

This is the statement from the IRS page.

"The credit is nonrefundable, so you can't get back more on the credit than you owe in taxes. You can't apply any excess credit to future tax years."​
Completely incorrect. The government will send you total of $17,500 in the original scenario, which was you are OWED $10,000 in overpaid taxes before the credit if you have that much liability. Nobody is saying the credit is refundable. With the credit you end up having overpaid $17,500 vs the original $10,000. The $10,000 says zilch about you tax liability, which may have been $40,000.
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