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As of Feb 3, IRS the Treasury Department just fixed the EV tax credit's Tesla Model Y problem and the cap is $80k for ALL models now.
Ordered Date and App Time; City/State; Model; Delivery Date
01/13/2023; 7pm CST, Dallas, TX; MY, Est Jan 22nd to Feb 5th
01/13/2023; Ohio; M3, Est Mid Feb to March
01/15/2023; Oahu, Hawaii; MY; February 19 - March 26
01/14/2023; 9pm; Los Angeles, CA; MY (Blue); February 4 - March 4 (edit// now February 14 - March 21 as of 1/24/23) (edit2// February 8 - February 22 as of 1/30/23) (edit3// VIN assigned [PA066*]; February 15 - February 24 as of 2/4/23)
01/13/2023; 11:29am EDT; Boston/MA; MY White/Black wheels; January 19 - came with defect and went promptly to body shop without picking up
01/13/2023: 12pm PT, Los Angeles, CA; MY (white) no options; Jan 26 - Feb 26, then 10 days later got VIN, then three days later scheduled delivery for Feb 5.
Who Qualifies
You may qualify for a credit up to $7,500 under Internal Revenue Code Section 30D if you buy a new, qualified plug-in EV or fuel cell electric vehicle (FCV). The Inflation Reduction Act of 2022 changed the rules for this credit for vehicles purchased from 2023 to 2032.
The credit is available to individuals and their businesses.
To qualify, you must:
Buy it for your own use, not for resale
Use it primarily in the U.S.
In addition, your modified adjusted gross income (AGI) may not exceed:
$300,000 for married couples filing jointly
$225,000 for heads of households
$150,000 for all other filers
You can use your modified AGI from the year you take delivery of the vehicle or the year before, whichever is less. If your modified AGI is below the threshold in 1 of the two years, you can claim the credit.
The credit is nonrefundable, so you can't get back more on the credit than you owe in taxes. You can't apply any excess credit to future tax years.
https://www.irs.gov/credits-deduc...quireme
The sale qualifies only if:
You buy the vehicle new
The seller reports required information to you at the time of sale and to the IRS.
Sellers are required to report your name and taxpayer identification number to the IRS for you to be eligible to claim the credit.
The new law requires the POS (Dealer or manufacturer) to report a bunch of information on the buyer to the IRS.
Such as:
Seller/Dealer name and taxpayer ID number
Buyer's name and taxpayer ID number
Maximum credit allowable under IRC 30D for new vehicles or IRC 25E for previously owned vehicles
Vehicle identification number (VIN), unless the vehicle is not assigned one
Battery capacity
Date of sale
Sale price
For new vehicles, verification that the buyer is the original user
CALIFORNIA
Now the Model 3 and Y do qualify for CVRP rebate up to $4,500 ($2,000 + $2,500 income eligible ) up to $7,500 after February 2023.
https://cleanvehiclereb
Summary of February 28, 2023 updates:
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In addition to the standard CVRP rebate, consumers with household income less than or equal to 400 percent of the federal poverty level are eligible for an increased rebate amount of $5,500 (previously $2,500) for BEVs and PHEVs, and $3,000 (previously $2,500) for FCEVs. This amounts to:
……….$7,500 for battery-electric vehicles (previously $4,500)
https://cleanvehiclereb
B Thank you for your email. Vehicle manufacturers must apply for Clean Vehicle Rebate Project (CVRP) eligibility with the California Air Resources Board (CARB) and meet a number of program requirements. If all program requirements are met, the vehicle is added to the list of eligible vehicles on our website. At this time, Tesla has not applied.
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Excluding taxes and fees, I paid $63,940. It's now $59,630, which is $4,310 less, and it is eligible for the $7,500 tax credit. That means if I didn't buy it in December and bought it today, I would have saved $11,810 + sales tax, so a bit over $12,000 in savings I missed. (I got 10,000 Supercharger miles, which is worth somewhere between $500 and $1,000.) With taxes and fees, I paid $71,578.55 in total.
For those who do order, I recommend this Tesla Prep guide [glideapp.io] to check for build quality issues on delivery day.
I hope this helps,
Tofu Vic
The disclosure, which was first reported by Electrek, comes as the company faces scrutiny over the safety and capabilities of its standard advanced driver assistance system known as Autopilot and the $15,000 optional upgraded product branded as "Full Self-Driving." Tesla FSD beta software offers some automated driving features but is not a self-driving system.
The luxury EV-maker has long claimed it could reach full autonomy through a "vision only" approach that shuns other sensors like lidar and radar in favor of cameras and a deep neural network that quickly processes a vehicle's surroundings and responds in real time. Tesla CEO Elon Musk previously promised to "solve" full self-driving by the end of this year (he's also promised Tesla would get there every year for roughly nine years now). He has recently admitted the problem will take longer to solve.
And perhaps, as every other autonomous vehicle technologist says, it's not actually achievable yet through cameras alone.
The company began removing radar from its vehicles last May. In October, Tesla removed its 12 ultrasonic sensors from Model 3 and Model Y vehicles built for North America, Europe, the Middle East and Taiwan. Ultrasonic sensors measure distance via ultrasonic waves and are used as proximity sensors to support anti-collision safety systems, particularly in parking use cases.
Now it appears radar is back. It's not yet clear which models will get the new radar. The type of radar Tesla intends to market next year is of a frequency that's allocated by the FCC for ADAS use cases, according to Ram Machness, chief business officer at Arbe Robotics, which produces ultra-high-resolution 4D imaging radar.
Tesla had originally filed with the FCC to use the new radar — which is described in filings as "76-77 GHz Automotive Radar" — in its vehicles back in June.
"From the frequency of operation (76-77GHz) as well as the mechanical design of the sensor from Tesla's FCC filing, it appears that this radar would be utilized in ADAS applications," Steven Hong, VP and general manager of radar technology at semiconductor company Ambarella, told TechCrunch.
He noted that while the performance of this "edge" radar sensor will be limited, it's a positive development that Tesla is looking to add radar to its perception stack for safety-critical, robust performance.
Earlier this year, the FCC had granted a confidential treatment to Tesla in order to keep the details of the new radar under wraps. Late last month, Tesla applied to extend that confidentiality treatment another 60 days from its date of expiration, which is December 7.
i hope this answers your question
Wayback Machine if anyone wants to do some research: https://web.archive.org/web/20220...ely/design
I'll throw out some notable 'milestones' , focusing only on the Model Y LR base model:
* Feb 2021 - $49,000 - Roughly the lowest price for the Y LR (not including the SR @ $42k)
From this point forward, Tesla started increasing the price about $1-2 every month or so, until it peaked out at $66,000. Ex:
* May 2021 - $51,000
* July 2021 - $53,000, etc...
* Feb 2022 - $59,000, etc...
* July 2022 - $66,000 <-- peak
* Dec 1 2022 - $66,000 (-$3750 credit/refund)
* Dec 15 2022 - $66,000 (-$7500 credit/refund)
* Jan 1 2023 - $66,000 back to peak (-$7500 fed tax credit only on 7-seater)
* Jan 13 2023 - $53,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Jan 23 2023 - $53,500 (-$7500 fed tax credit on base model + 7-seater but not performance)
* Feb 4 2023 - $55,000 (-$7500 fed tax credit on all models)
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1. I didn't realize it at the time, but we bought the 269 mile version, not the 330 something mile version. God Dammit.
2. Got the Tesla charger installed at our carport for $300. That was much less painful than I expected.
3. Cruise control is a must to get decent mileage, and I have more trouble getting cruise control to operate as expected in this car than I have in any of my previous cars, spanning just about every brand- Pontiac (3x), VW, Mercedes, Chevy, Subaru, Ford.
4. On that note, everything in the car is just different enough that it's jarring to my 40 year old ass. I'm driving a $25k Ford Maverick that has normal door handles, framed windows, and physical buttons and dials for the AC and Carplay.
5. I wanted to hate it, but the driving itself is fun. My dream car was my 2016 Chevy SS, this is faster.
6. EVs in general are cool, but there's no way that shoppers would let GM, Toyota, or VW get away with the fit and finish and general quirkiness of this car, especially at this price point.
7. Hardcore Tesla fans kind of suck. Most of them weren't "car people" until they got the Tesla, and it shows. The per capita rate of vanity plates is way too high and they refer to their cars as "Teslas" with way too much pride.
In light of all of the above, I'm really looking forward to buying an EV for myself from a major manufacturer. This performance, free (with solar) fuel, and normal farking Carplay, leather, and doors would be pretty sweet.
The 269mi Model Y is literally got the most advanced car (production wise) that Tesla makes. It has the 4680 batteries, and a mega cast front and rear chassis. The only vehicle they have built like that.
The low-profile tires need a bit more care and are more expensive to replace. My current car has low-profile tires, and you'll need to be careful around potholes and speed bumps as they can damage the rim. But if you don't like the wheels, you could always swap them out and sell them.
You will not get different brakes, it is the same as MYLR but it has fancy looking brake covers.
https://electrek.co/2023/01/16/te...r-hide-it/
You will get 21" wheels but the ride will be less comfortable compared to MYLR 19" Gemini wheels.
You will get spoiler and matrix headlights.
However... Even the long range version of this car is faster than anything this car has business with. In term of needs? You don't really need the performance version, but it sure looks better and is of A batter value
any other reason to get the performance version is that you may have better chance find your car in the sea of teslaa
For me the LR is the better car (comfy suspensions) with two kids and New England winters, the spoiler and wheels I can always add myself. The car is fast enough (faster then most cars on the road) so its not a big deal imo.
but as I said before. LR is plenty fast, with better ride. and if you don't take the car to track, there isn't much need for the suspension upgrade (and would be a downgrade in ride quality), and you will almost never use the brake. but 4 k is still a good price for wheels and other cosmetics. I would have jumped on it if the opportunity was available to me. I value them around 5 to 6k. not 11k.
Likewise, I would switch to performance + towing if I didn't already have a vin and delivery next week.
You will not get different brakes, it is the same as MYLR but it has fancy looking brake covers.
https://electrek.co/2023/01/16/te...r-hide-it/
You will get 21" wheels but the ride will be less comfortable compared to MYLR 19" Gemini wheels.
You will get spoiler and matrix headlights.
well. you got matrix headlight if you car is out of fremont, performance or not (but not for austin build, which mine was so that's that)
as far as Motor goes, you can check your VIN.
if the 8th digit is E, it is Long Range, if it is F, it is performance, but it only identifies the installed motor. There have also been instances where that position reports a LR but has a P motor (but mine wasn't). To clarify, the 980 is the Performance motor and 990 is Long Range. i believe the 980 has a bit higher power ceiling, it is smaller but more expensive. even with the software unlock, with 990 you are still looking at 0.5 second slower in 0-60 (if it matters).
so i suppose if you are the lucky few that get 980 motor LR, then you may come close to a performance version with the software unlock. but otherwise paying 2k for that on a 990 motor is more of a comfort award for buyer's remorse (i.e. don't do it...)
Likewise, I would switch to performance + towing if I didn't already have a vin and delivery next week.
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The low-profile tires need a bit more care and are more expensive to replace. My current car has low-profile tires, and you'll need to be careful around potholes and speed bumps as they can damage the rim. But if you don't like the wheels, you could always swap them out and sell them.
not everyone cares about shaving off 1 sec from 0-60. it is not always black and white as you put it and there are definitely tradeoffs. what you get for performance you lose in range, comfort, maintenance costs. you do get nice set of matrix lights though.
not everyone cares about shaving off 1 sec from 0-60. it is not always black and white as you put it and there are definitely tradeoffs. what you get for performance you lose in range, comfort, maintenance costs. you do get nice set of matrix lights though.
not everyone cares about shaving off 1 sec from 0-60. it is not always black and white as you put it and there are definitely tradeoffs. what you get for performance you lose in range, comfort, maintenance costs. you do get nice set of matrix lights though.
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