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Stanley Sweetheart No.4 Bench Plane (Brass)
$128.60
$174.82
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Amazon Global Store UK has Stanley Sweetheart No.4 Bench Plane (Brass, 112136) on sale for $128.33 > now $128.62. Shipping is free.
Thanks to Community Member EfficientSwing330 for finding this deal.
Key Features:
Thanks to Community Member EfficientSwing330 for finding this deal.
Key Features:
- Iron is made from extra-thick 1/8" (3.18 mm) A2 steel for excellent edge retention
- One-piece base and frog virtually eliminate chatter
- Cherry wood handle and knob for comfort
- Norris-type adjuster with lateral locking feature
- Adjustable throat plate for different types of wood
- Replacement Blade 12-141
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Edited January 26, 2023
at 04:40 PM
Nice discount on an essential woodworking tool. The modern Stanley Sweetheart line is often recommended as a best value bench plane and competitive in quality with planes twice the cost.
For price comparison, the list price for this is currently $240, and is on sale at Rockler for $180.
Amazon global store listings include customs, taxes and shipping in the price and are priced in dollars so there are no foreign transaction fees
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002LTUOI6 Now $128.62
For price comparison, the list price for this is currently $240, and is on sale at Rockler for $180.
Amazon global store listings include customs, taxes and shipping in the price and are priced in dollars so there are no foreign transaction fees
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B002LTUOI6 Now $128.62
Created 01-22-2023
at 03:07 PM
by EfficientSwing330
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This is a tool that should work out of the box. But to use it for what it is intended, and for it to do a good job, requires quite a bit of work and know-how. Nothing extreme. But enough to deter most from learning and performing the steps to do things like flatten the sole, file down any bits with slight imperfections, and perform initial and regular sharpening.
It's a bench plane. It's intended to be used on a sturdy bench with the wood secured properly. And it's intended to be used for finer woodworking tasks like making nice furniture. It can be used to flatten and smooth any wood. But ergonomically, it's not ideal typical carpentry types of tasks where you are either on the move or not focused on butter-smooth perfection.
If woodworking in a shop is a hobby or your profession, then learning about and using bench planes could be a great addition. If not, I'd recommend you start out with a block plane for normal homeowner tasks.
A block plane is a much smaller investment. It's also much smaller all around. That means it is much easier to store, transport, and even carry in a pocket or apron. It also takes less time to flatten and setup if you'd like to try that out.
(Source: I picked up hand tool woodworking as a Pandemic hobby. I'm still very much a novice on the subject. But I'm hoping to provide realistic advice where I can.
I actually own this exact Stanley plane. While I can answer some hands-on question about it, I haven't used any Veritas, Lee Neilson, or vintage Stanleys to compare with.)
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They are most of a hobby and they create far less dust compared to power tools.
Better in terms of making the surface flat and straight.
They cannot replace hand plane. However, a woodworker is more likely to use a jointer, a table saw, and a thickness planer to achieve much better results more efficiently.
Better in terms of making the surface flat and straight.
They are most of a hobby and they create far less dust compared to power tools.
1. Get an old Stanley #4 on eBay or locally and restore it.
2. Get a Veritas #4 ($240)
3. Get a Lie-Nielsen #4 ($340?)
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If you have a piece of heavy glass for a super flat surface, and some sandpaper, and hours to hone and polish, then the $35 plane could be just as good. If you don't want to do that, then you pay $125 to have someone else set it up.
Some videos to learn about it:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vSnKkSD
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jg_3XDD
Whoa wait a sec. I just want to make a small comment. The Stanley and the wood river are not the same quality as a lee valley plane. You can literally buy a plane and check all reference edges to find that they are square right out of the box. Pretty much all the time. Which means you can just start using them without worrying that they need to be tuned before use. Also the metal is seasoned properly before being cnc'd or milled. The Chinese products are not to that level. Also, given that lee Valley products are made in Canada, you know the money is going to a Canadian and justifies the price it's at. A similarly priced product made in China or Mexico is just taking advantage of cheap labour and pocketing the rest. Place if manufacturing is important just for that reason alone. Lee Valley's return policy pretty much allows you to return anything no matter how old it is even if there is a defect in workmanship as well.
edit:. sorry, I reread your post and I read it wrong. apologies as you were only pointing out the country of origin and saying that people are hyper focused on country of origin. my point still stands that dollar for dollar the lee Valley hand planes are a step above and should be $75-100 above a wood river.
They're used for different purposes so there isn't a direct comparison. I actually use the electric plane for quick roughing for stuff that would be tough to get out with a jointer.
My hand planes are strictly for finish work. In this case smoothing. A planed surface looks way better than a sanded surface even at high grits.
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As example.
Although after using a PMV-11 on a Veritas spoke shave, I'm a big fan for a western non-laminated steel blades.
I used to dislike the pmv-11 blades because I felt it took a long time to sharpen them as opposed to the a2 and o1. Then I happened to use my plane for so much longer one day without sharpening that I was actually impressed and decided I'd get pmv-11 for all my planes
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Yes, you can spend hours honing and tuning up this plane to get it to perform beautifully, but it will dull quicker due to inferior steel.
If you want a new plane, the Wood River #4 is a good option if you want a Stanley Bedrock style, but if you would prefer the heft and surface area of a slightly wider plane, get the #4 1/2. At $215 I personally think it's worth the slight bump to $250 to get a Veritas #4 which has the similar Norris style depth adjuster. Veritas has super high quality machining and only requires a slight tough up on the cutting edge and you're ready to go.
The ultimate smoother would be a Lie-Nielsen, but at $400+ is quite the investment, and due to recent issues with finding a reliable casting company are currently out of stock and are backordered for a looooong time.