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Product Name: | PowerColor Red Devil AMD Radeon RX 7900 XTX Graphics Card |
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Model Number: | RX7900XTX 24G-E/OC |
Product SKU: | B0BMWGMX5B |
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This is just my opinion but it's not worth $1080+tax+1-2 month wait time. You can just get a 6950xt today or within a few days for 60% of the price but only lose like 10%-20% of the performance (depending on the game/settings). At lower resolutions, such as 1080p, the 6950XT won't be behind by much so performance will be closer to only a 10% difference. 4K is where you'd see closer to the 20% difference.
I came from a 1080ti and luckily bought my 7900XTX on launch day from Microcenter. It was $1050+tax. Looking back at it I probably should have just gone with the 6950xt but I'm already way past the return date. After buying this I deliberately bought a 4k monitor as well and honestly I kinda regret everything. Spent like almost $2000 total. Sure games look pretty and all but the experience didn't really change. I went from my games running at ~80fps 1080p to ~80fps 4k. If I bought the 6950xt I probably would have just stayed at 1080p and gotten the full 165fps my old monitor could do from basically every game, max settings (no RT). At this point I'm probably just rambling and ranting.
TLDR 1080p just buy 6950xt for way less money. Buy this if you already have a 4k gaming monitor or plan to pair this with a 4k gaming monitor.
I'm basing this off of my own experience, reviews from Hardware unboxed, Gamers Nexus, Tom's Hardware GPU Hierarchy https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html [tomshardware.com] and techpowerup GPU relative performance chart https://www.techpowerup
This is still available as well. https://slickdeals.net/f/16379320-amd-radeon-rx-6950-xt-16gb-gddr6-graphics-card-2-free-games-pcdd-699-free-shipping
I do want to point out that people shouldn't use gpu.userbenchmark for research purposes (unless you want to feel good about your nvidia purchase.
The 7900 xtx is ranked 3rd overall (out of 692) on their benchmarks, but the review section is rife with derogatory language and how users are complete idiots for buying an AMD product. The 6950 xt is just as negative and seething of vitriol.
Looking up the RTX 4080 next shows the review applauding the performance and praising the price as if it was justified...WTF.
Over a third of the 4080's "review" is how shit AMD is.
The 4090 is no different.
I don't want to link the site (you can easily find it).
If you're curious about what they say.
Here is their 7900 xtx "review"...
AMD's new 7900 series GPUs received a lot of pre-launch hype. There were claims of 50-70% performance improvements over the previous flagship. Our benchmarks show that the 7900-XTX leads the 6950-XT by around 30%. AMD overhype their product launches because it is effective at getting first-time buyers to pay over MRSP. After an initial burst in sales, prices often drop rapidly, as with the 6900 XT and the recently launched Zen 4 7950X, which are now both 30% cheaper. AMD's domination of social media platforms has historically resulted in millions of users purchasing sub standard products, those users will be very hard, if not impossible for AMD to win back. If this trend continues, semiconductors may become a secondary business line for AMD, who appear more focused on developing "Advanced Marketing" relationships with select youtubers and media outlets. Based on the volume of social media/press coverage, you would never guess that the combined market share for all of AMD's Radeon 5000 and 6000 GPUs amongst PC gamers is just 2.12% (Steam stats). Be wary of sponsored reviews (golden samples+cherry picked games) that showcase the wins and gloss over the losses whilst conveniently ignoring frame drops. Despite steady price cuts, an increasing number of seasoned gamers simply have no interest in buying AMD products. They know from bitter experience that headline average fps are worthless when they are accompanied with stutters, random crashes, excessive noise and a limited feature set. Most gamers, who are better off playing at 1080p, will do well to wait for Nvidia's upcoming 4060/4070 series cards (est. early 2023). Even brand fans that wish to be in AMD's "2%" club, will find better deals after the launch hype settles. Shoppers should avoid AMD's reference design as many users are reporting thermal issues.
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The Nvidia RTX 4080 "review"...
The RTX 4080 is based on Nvidia's Ada Lovelace architecture. It features 9,728 cores with base / boost clocks of 2.2 / 2.5 GHz, 16 GB of memory, a 256-bit memory bus, 76 3rd gen RT cores, 304 4th gen Tensor cores, DLSS 3 and a TDP of 320W. Performance gains will vary depending on the specific game and resolution. With a 4080 tier card 1080p in-game fps will often get CPU bottlenecked which prevents the GPU from delivering higher fps. At higher (often sub-optimal) resolutions (1440p, 4K etc) the 4080 will show increasing improvements compared to lesser cards. When fps are not CPU bottlenecked at all, such as during GPU benchmarks, the 4080 is around 50% faster than the 3080 and 25% faster than the 3090-Ti, these figures are approximate upper bounds for in-game fps improvements. The 4080 has an MSRP of $1,200 USD. Since PC gamers rarely buy AMD GPUs, Nvidia only have themselves to compete with. AMD continue to burn their credibility with PC gamers. Following a series of over-hyped releases which were heavily promoted on youtube, forums, reddit and twitter, consumers have little interest in the Radeon brand. As time goes on, AMD's "Advanced Marketing" has a decreasing impact on consumers. Meanwhile, Nvidia remains focused on novel goals such as better graphics (RT/DLSS), frame consistency, game compatibility and driver stability. Consumers looking for better value should wait a few more months for the 4060 / 4070 models by which time AMD's 7900 series will also probably be heavily discounted. Alternatively, shoppers looking to buy in the near term should consider the last gen. 3060-Ti, which offers excellent real-world (1080p) performance at a fraction of the price ($400 USD).
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This is still available as well. https://slickdeals.net/f/16379320-amd-radeon-rx-6950-xt-16gb-gddr6-graphics-card-2-free-games-pcdd-699-free-shipping
I do want to point out that people shouldn't use gpu.userbenchmark for research purposes (unless you want to feel good about your nvidia purchase.
The 7900 xtx is ranked 3rd overall (out of 692) on their benchmarks, but the review section is rife with derogatory language and how users are complete idiots for buying an AMD product. The 6950 xt is just as negative and seething of vitriol.
Looking up the RTX 4080 next shows the review applauding the performance and praising the price as if it was justified...WTF.
Over a third of the 4080's "review" is how shit AMD is.
The 4090 is no different.
I don't want to link the site (you can easily find it).
If you're curious about what they say.
Here is their 7900 xtx "review"...
AMD's new 7900 series GPUs received a lot of pre-launch hype. There were claims of 50-70% performance improvements over the previous flagship. Our benchmarks show that the 7900-XTX leads the 6950-XT by around 30%. AMD overhype their product launches because it is effective at getting first-time buyers to pay over MRSP. After an initial burst in sales, prices often drop rapidly, as with the 6900 XT and the recently launched Zen 4 7950X, which are now both 30% cheaper. AMD's domination of social media platforms has historically resulted in millions of users purchasing sub standard products, those users will be very hard, if not impossible for AMD to win back. If this trend continues, semiconductors may become a secondary business line for AMD, who appear more focused on developing "Advanced Marketing" relationships with select youtubers and media outlets. Based on the volume of social media/press coverage, you would never guess that the combined market share for all of AMD's Radeon 5000 and 6000 GPUs amongst PC gamers is just 2.12% (Steam stats). Be wary of sponsored reviews (golden samples+cherry picked games) that showcase the wins and gloss over the losses whilst conveniently ignoring frame drops. Despite steady price cuts, an increasing number of seasoned gamers simply have no interest in buying AMD products. They know from bitter experience that headline average fps are worthless when they are accompanied with stutters, random crashes, excessive noise and a limited feature set. Most gamers, who are better off playing at 1080p, will do well to wait for Nvidia's upcoming 4060/4070 series cards (est. early 2023). Even brand fans that wish to be in AMD's "2%" club, will find better deals after the launch hype settles. Shoppers should avoid AMD's reference design as many users are reporting thermal issues. [Dec '22 GPUPro]
VS
The Nvidia RTX 4080 "review"...
The RTX 4080 is based on Nvidia's Ada Lovelace architecture. It features 9,728 cores with base / boost clocks of 2.2 / 2.5 GHz, 16 GB of memory, a 256-bit memory bus, 76 3rd gen RT cores, 304 4th gen Tensor cores, DLSS 3 and a TDP of 320W. Performance gains will vary depending on the specific game and resolution. With a 4080 tier card 1080p in-game fps will often get CPU bottlenecked which prevents the GPU from delivering higher fps. At higher (often sub-optimal) resolutions (1440p, 4K etc) the 4080 will show increasing improvements compared to lesser cards. When fps are not CPU bottlenecked at all, such as during GPU benchmarks, the 4080 is around 50% faster than the 3080 and 25% faster than the 3090-Ti, these figures are approximate upper bounds for in-game fps improvements. The 4080 has an MSRP of $1,200 USD. Since PC gamers rarely buy AMD GPUs, Nvidia only have themselves to compete with. AMD continue to burn their credibility with PC gamers. Following a series of over-hyped releases which were heavily promoted on youtube, forums, reddit and twitter, consumers have little interest in the Radeon brand. As time goes on, AMD's "Advanced Marketing" has a decreasing impact on consumers. Meanwhile, Nvidia remains focused on novel goals such as better graphics (RT/DLSS), frame consistency, game compatibility and driver stability. Consumers looking for better value should wait a few more months for the 4060 / 4070 models by which time AMD's 7900 series will also probably be heavily discounted. Alternatively, shoppers looking to buy in the near term should consider the last gen. 3060-Ti, which offers excellent real-world (1080p) performance at a fraction of the price ($400 USD). [Nov '22 GPUPro]
Didn't Nvidia say they were 3x the performance and this clown thinks that Nvidia doesn't lie with their marketing. This is just like I phone people and Tesla butt sniffers getting high off their own farts. I could just kick him in the nuts spit in their eye and take $2000 dollars from him. Fools and their money and such.
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These things will depreciate in value over time. Terrible investment.
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This is just my opinion but it's not worth $1080+tax+1-2 month wait time. You can just get a 6950xt today or within a few days for 60% of the price but only lose like 10%-20% of the performance (depending on the game/settings). At lower resolutions, such as 1080p, the 6950XT won't be behind by much so performance will be closer to only a 10% difference. 4K is where you'd see closer to the 20% difference.
I came from a 1080ti and luckily bought my 7900XTX on launch day from Microcenter. It was $1050+tax. Looking back at it I probably should have just gone with the 6950xt but I'm already way past the return date. After buying this I deliberately bought a 4k monitor as well and honestly I kinda regret everything. Spent like almost $2000 total. Sure games look pretty and all but the experience didn't really change. I went from my games running at ~80fps 1080p to ~80fps 4k. If I bought the 6950xt I probably would have just stayed at 1080p and gotten the full 165fps my old monitor could do from basically every game, max settings (no RT). At this point I'm probably just rambling and ranting.
TLDR 1080p just buy 6950xt for way less money. Buy this if you already have a 4k gaming monitor or plan to pair this with a 4k gaming monitor.
I'm basing this off of my own experience, reviews from Hardware unboxed, Gamers Nexus, Tom's Hardware GPU Hierarchy https://www.tomshardware.com/reviews/gpu-hierarchy,4388.html [tomshardware.com] and techpowerup GPU relative performance chart https://www.techpowerup
I agree with the 1080 comment, pretty pointless unless you want absurd fps with older games for your 240/360hz monitor. As far as 1080 to 4k for games? Even 1440 to 4K is a nice step up, but 1080 to 4k is night and day difference. If you can swing it 4k is totally worth it and very impressive.
However I put an order in on Jan. 25th and it still shows an estimate of March 13th on my account. (~2 weeks slower). I confirmed both say "sold by Amazon.com".
Anyone know if Amazon is just bad at not updating your esmistated ship date after the fact?
(I could cancel and reorder but not sure if that is worth the risk and if the puts me in the back of the line)
These things will depreciate in value over time. Terrible investment.
You're ignorant if you think any gpu would be considered an investment financially Lmao. I did buy a merc 310 xtx though and I'm throughly enjoying my 'investment' with my high fps with no upscaling.
$500 for top tier cards, period.
Those days are unfortunately in the past. Never going to happen again.
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