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So I started to ladder T-Bills for the reasons everyone is stating in this thread. The rate is so volatile (in a good way) that locking into anything even 12 months is too long for me and rates continue to climb. I use fidelity and my suggestion is this.
When they offer the new 4 week and 8 week and 13 week t-bill (they auction on diff days and diff weeks) go in and buy one of each of them with whatever money you can spare. Let's use 5k for each.
I would buy a 4 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy an 8 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy a 13 week t-bill WITH Rollover for 5k
Then after 4 weeks when that first on comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.
Then after 8 weeks when the second comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.
Now you will have 3 13 week t-bills rolling every 4 weeks or so and rolling into a new one with the proceeds. This way every 4 weeks you are capturing an increasing rate and not locked into anything longer than 13 weeks. You benefit from the rate hikes, can cash out at any time, and you have state tax shelter from the earned interest.
I can almost guarantee that the above will yield you more net income (taking in tax break) at the end of 11months then the 5% locked CD
just my 2cents
You can buy treasuries from just about any brokerage. I use Fidelity, as I like their platform and they don't charge fees/commissions for treasuries. Fidelity Fixed Income Page[fidelity.com]
Follow the above link and scroll down to the row "U.S. Treasury." Choose the duration you want and click on it. You can then click "buy" to start a trade of a specific treasury bill/bond. Fidelity's Intro to Treasuries[fidelity.com]
This is true, but it doesn't make an 11-month CD at 5% a bad idea. Those HYS can change their rates at any time, but here you're guaranteed to get 5%.
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Can someone explain the interest payout part to me? The two options are – "Keep interest in my CD" or "Payout my interest monthly or annually". If I choose the first, will the CD get compounded interest at maturity? (i.e. the interest earned in the first month will get added to the initial deposit and the combined amount will get 5% APY, same process repeats next month and so on?) OR no matter which option I choose, the maturity amount is now fixed? (5% APY of initial deposit only.)
In other words, if I "Keep interest in my CD", will I get higher amount at maturity?
I appreciate all of the posts above mentioning T Bills from Fidelity. I've never been into this type of stuff and always held my money in savings accounts plus brokerage accounts where I would just buy and hold stocks (and the occasional options trading). But last year I made the most money I ever have in my life through work and have about 670k saved from the year and it seems like a no brainer to put the majority of that into some low-risk stuff like T Bills (I already use Fidelity as my broker). I have a lot to learn!
Awesome ! If u dont mind....What kind of work do u do that makes 670k a yr ? Looking for some inspiration here !
Can you share a website where I can learn more about this? No rollover vs rollover? Pls and Ty!
Not sure I know one but I use fidelity. Go to fixed income. New issues and treasury. You have to know the auction schedule for the different t bills. Google t bill schedule and you will see what days to expect to see 4 8 and 13 week t bills have new issues. Then use your broker to purchase them on those days. Remember in t bills there is no coupon.... simply the rate. Also you pay a discount for the t bill. Each is 1000. But you will pay like 980 and when it matures it is worth 1000. Hope that helps
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02-02-2023 at 11:49 PM.
Glad to see my post helped some folks. Except whoever thumbs downed me lol..... T bills are for all intents and purposes risk free. You don't make much on a 4 8 or 23 week bill. But with the ladder you set it and forget it. Then it over time will pay out similarly to holding an annual instrument. Investing in a single 4 week t bill wouldn't really be worth it by itself
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02-03-2023 at 02:33 AM.
PRO TIP: Do NOT lock in to a CD. Rates are expected to rise more this year (just did .25%, more forecasted), go on over to bankrate, check out the MMA accounts and do your rate shop. Check the terms on each so you're making a choice that works for you (you should always know the terms regardless)...Redneck Bank, check them out, it's the online arm of All America Bank, been using them for years and they're typically higher than any MMA advertised on Bankrate, plus the customer service is superb. Been rate chasing for years, been in the industry for 10, reach out with any questions, thx!
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When they offer the new 4 week and 8 week and 13 week t-bill (they auction on diff days and diff weeks) go in and buy one of each of them with whatever money you can spare. Let's use 5k for each.
I would buy a 4 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy an 8 week t-bill with NO Rollover for 5k
I would buy a 13 week t-bill WITH Rollover for 5k
Then after 4 weeks when that first on comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.
Then after 8 weeks when the second comes up, buy another 13 week t-bill with the 5k WITH Rollover.
Now you will have 3 13 week t-bills rolling every 4 weeks or so and rolling into a new one with the proceeds. This way every 4 weeks you are capturing an increasing rate and not locked into anything longer than 13 weeks. You benefit from the rate hikes, can cash out at any time, and you have state tax shelter from the earned interest.
I can almost guarantee that the above will yield you more net income (taking in tax break) at the end of 11months then the 5% locked CD
just my 2cents
Fidelity Fixed Income Page [fidelity.com]
Follow the above link and scroll down to the row "U.S. Treasury." Choose the duration you want and click on it. You can then click "buy" to start a trade of a specific treasury bill/bond.
Fidelity's Intro to Treasuries [fidelity.com]
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If you got mattress money, look at ETFs
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Look at the returns and then compare with other grandpa etfs
In other words, if I "Keep interest in my CD", will I get higher amount at maturity?
https://www.forbes.com/advisor/ba...-cd-rates/
Awesome ! If u dont mind....What kind of work do u do that makes 670k a yr ? Looking for some inspiration here !
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If you got mattress money, look at ETFs
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Look at the returns and then compare with other grandpa etfs
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