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expiredLaotzu3 posted Mar 03, 2023 11:16 PM

Select Costco Stores: Apple Mac Mini: M1, 8GB RAM, 256GB SSD (Late 2020 Model)

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Select Costco Wholesale Stores (link for reference only) [store locator] offer Costco Members: Apple Mac Mini Compact Computer w/ Apple M1 Chip (Late 2020 Model, MGNR3LL/A) on closeout for $399.97 valid for In-Store Purchase Only where stock permits (request item # 1486314).

Thanks to community member Laotzu3 for finding this deal.
  • Note: Inventory availability nay vary by location.

Specs:
  • Apple M1 Octa-Core Processor (4x high-performance + 4x high-efficiency)
  • 8-Core Integrated GPU
  • 8GB RAM (onboard)
  • 256GB Integrated NVMe PCIe Solid State Drive
  • 802.11ax WiFi 6 / Bluetooth 5.0
  • Ports:
    • 2x USB Type-A (USB 3.1 / USB 3.2 Gen 1)
    • 2x Thunderbolt 3 USB Type C (supports DisplayPort / HDMI / VGA & Power Delivery)
    • 1x HDMI 2.0 (output)
    • 1x 3.5 mm Headphone
    • 1x Ethernet

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  • About this deal:
    • Offer valid at participating locations while supplies last.
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Written by Laotzu3
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Select Costco Wholesale Stores (link for reference only) [store locator] offer Costco Members: Apple Mac Mini Compact Computer w/ Apple M1 Chip (Late 2020 Model, MGNR3LL/A) on closeout for $399.97 valid for In-Store Purchase Only where stock permits (request item # 1486314).

Thanks to community member Laotzu3 for finding this deal.
  • Note: Inventory availability nay vary by location.

Specs:
  • Apple M1 Octa-Core Processor (4x high-performance + 4x high-efficiency)
  • 8-Core Integrated GPU
  • 8GB RAM (onboard)
  • 256GB Integrated NVMe PCIe Solid State Drive
  • 802.11ax WiFi 6 / Bluetooth 5.0
  • Ports:
    • 2x USB Type-A (USB 3.1 / USB 3.2 Gen 1)
    • 2x Thunderbolt 3 USB Type C (supports DisplayPort / HDMI / VGA & Power Delivery)
    • 1x HDMI 2.0 (output)
    • 1x 3.5 mm Headphone
    • 1x Ethernet

Editor's Notes

Written by RevOne | Staff
  • About this deal:
    • Offer valid at participating locations while supplies last.
  • Ratings & Reviews:
    • Rated 4.7 out of 5 stars based on 1,423 customer reviews.
  • Additional Note:
    • Please refer to the Forum Thread for further discussion regarding this deal.

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Laotzu3
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According to most reports M2 is 20% faster but it's disk access is 50% slower while the price is 33% more.

To get disk access on par with M1 you need to pay $200 to upgrade to 512gb ($799 or $699)
Laotzu3
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Recent mac's are not upgradeable in either ram or sdd unfortunately.
chi
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There's a slow SSD controversy on the M2 base models. The M1 base models have 2 SSDs while the M2 base models have only 1 SSD so there can be data bottlenecks.

https://youtu.be/bF_Lbdqfowo

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Mar 07, 2023 04:53 AM
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BigbanksMar 07, 2023 04:53 AM
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Quote from chevolet :
Haha that's an amazing way to check inventory!
That's what I did earlier today
Mar 07, 2023 07:21 AM
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ibuythingshereMar 07, 2023 07:21 AM
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Quote from TokenSid :
So people don't want to do hackintoshes anymore?
theres no good arm processors that can match the performance of even with a basic m1 chip
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HappyDome8591Mar 07, 2023 07:41 AM
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Quote from SlickRailway7321 :
You're getting downvoted, but it's a well intentioned point.

I have the M1 MBA with 8 gigs of RAM. I'm a developer, so yes, power-user or whatever, but if you even like to keep tons of tabs open you will eventually notice the box slowing down. (I don't always have tons of dev apps open and still experience sluggishness…)

And if you are a dev or other power user, 8 isn't enough imo. With Xcode plus the iOS emulator it's sluggish. VS Code plus Slack and 10 StackOverflow tabs and you're sluggish. I'm constantly closing apps.

You also lose one of the M1's best features on the mini: great battery life.

This is a great deal, but if you know enough to wonder if you could use more RAM, my guess is the answer is yes. You've been warned, ymmv, etc.
I still have not let go of my iMac 2013 with 16GB RAM. A decade later the base model of Mac (and many Windows and ChromeOS machines in the competing $600 bracket to be fair) is still 8GB. While the speed isn't as fast when compiling code, my machine is still acceptable, so I honestly don't feel the urge to upgrade until the 24GB models becomes cheaper.
Mar 07, 2023 08:37 AM
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Elon69Mar 07, 2023 08:37 AM
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Everyone seems to think they are power users.

I use 8GB air on the regular with office apps always open, a few chrome browsers and about 5 tabs. I also use VPN always plus a trading macOS app that is native m1 compiled and discord and telegram. It's still night and day faster than my 8 core iMac with 32GB ram on app responsiveness.

If you are a heavy user you wouldn't be asking how much ram you need. You'd know.

8GB is fine for anyone who's not processing photos and videos and development for a living. If you edit video once a month or just write some node in viscode casually… and by casually I meant a thousand lines of nodejs code. You don't need 16GB. Calm down. Lol.



And I would take this machine over any Intel with 32GB of ram in the same price range (meaning 8Gb machine that's $400 and I will let you add 24GB and let you bench) and I still prefer an 8GB m1 machine all day every day.
Last edited by Elon69 March 7, 2023 at 01:39 AM.
Mar 07, 2023 12:19 PM
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dcliveMar 07, 2023 12:19 PM
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Quote from ibuythingshere :
theres no good arm processors that can match the performance of even with a basic m1 chip
…which has nothing to do with Hackintosh…

Hackintosh is using an Intel chip to run MacOS. That market is alive and well, albeit not as much in demand now with Apple's recent price drops (per performance) on the new Macintosh side. But if you already own Intel hardware with AMD graphics, Hackintosh is typically free to implement (except hours of time).
Mar 07, 2023 12:22 PM
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wasssupMar 07, 2023 12:22 PM
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I'm so tempted to grab one, but I have so many laptops and servers that I need to get rid of stuff first lol. Good price imo for a cheap always-on box.
Mar 07, 2023 12:24 PM
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dcliveMar 07, 2023 12:24 PM
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Quote from HappyDome8591 :
I still have not let go of my iMac 2013 with 16GB RAM. A decade later the base model of Mac (and many Windows and ChromeOS machines in the competing $600 bracket to be fair) is still 8GB. While the speed isn't as fast when compiling code, my machine is still acceptable, so I honestly don't feel the urge to upgrade until the 24GB models becomes cheaper.
I don't code, but based on https://github.com/devMEremenko/XcodeBenchmark this Xcode benchmark, the fastest Apple Intel CPU is slower than the very slowest M1 Mac.

Those who code should look at these numbers as a reasonable starting point for a benchmark.

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Mar 07, 2023 02:02 PM
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OGSDERMar 07, 2023 02:02 PM
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Quote from drwx :
that's not entirely true. perhaps the m1 mini can only do 1 external monitor, but the m1 studio does 2 monitors natively... just plug it in and go.
"For Mac computers with the Apple M1 Chip: You can connect a single external display to your Mac. Docks don't increase the number of displays you can connect. On a Mac mini with M1 chip, you can connect a second display to the HDMI port. See the Apple Support article Mac computers with Apple silicon."

https://support.apple.com/guide/m...7ebe08/mac
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Mar 07, 2023 02:05 PM
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OGSDERMar 07, 2023 02:05 PM
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Quote from dclive :
As a current Hackintosh owner: almost every word of that is total nonsense.

The i9-13900k (ie THE very latest Intel CPU) works GREAT in a Hackintosh.

The AMD 6900XTXH (the Second-Latest AMD generation's top performer) works GREAT in a Hackintosh.

MacOS 13.2.1, Apple's latest MacOS, works GREAT on Intel, on the i9-13900k and many others.

If you want to say "The end of the road will happen in a few years, but there's so far no clear plan for end of Intel support' you should write that, but what you wrote above is flat wrong.

No Intel CPU is "supported"; the only CPU MacOS supports is what Apple ships with an Apple logo on it. Just because Apple stopped at 10th gen Intel certainly doesn't mean we need to!

Wow.
I Hackintoshed several computers before to tinker around with, but I wouldn't use them for work or even personal use. A M1 MacBook Air can get had for <$800 and this M1 Mini for $400. Why deal with all the frustration? Certain WiFi cards wouldn't work, dealing with kexts and etc. I love tinkering with tech, but time isn't free and its worth it to not deal with being frustrated.
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SociableMeat170Mar 07, 2023 02:14 PM
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Quote from dclive :
This is false. The latest OS, 13.2.1, works flawlessly with Intel chips and an AMD graphics card. No "serious hacking" is required; look on GitHub, find your motherboard, copy the EFI, put it on a USB stick, create a bootable USB MacOS install disk, and you're off to the races. If you can read that paragraph and understand the detail you can probably deliver a successful result.

Re: performance, the i5-12400 (a cheap chip) is pretty close to the performance of a base Mini ($499) - it's still a bit better. If you already own the Intel chip / setup, or if you have a better Intel setup, with an AMD graphics card, already, the math looks pretty good on the Hackintosh side still. With a decent AMD GPU, your Hackintosh can be faster (graphics, gaming, etc.) than any Mac ever made quite easily.

It's not hard. I've several guides on GitHub myself for the full process.
Um, sure. With an AMD graphics card it's a lot easier to set up a Hackintosh. I was refering to integrated graphics setups.

I was considering people that would cross-shop a base Mini with a Hackintosh. Pretty hard to get together parts (case, power supply, motherboard, CPU, SSD) that also include an AMD discrete graphics card for much less than $499. And you'd still have a much more stable system with the Mini.

Once you go higher-end (32GB or 64GB memory, 2TB SSD, good graphics card) then a Hackintosh route would still be a lot cheaper.
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ElatedHealth6110Mar 07, 2023 06:27 PM
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Quote from dclive :
I don't think any of those items are reasons not to get a Mac mini; I think a $200 Intel box from Amazon with Plex Pass ($100-ish), while ensuring said Intel box has QuickSync, is the current best-standard for Plex servers. You'll get a used, 2-3 year old PC with good Intel hardware, hopefully some room internally for drives, and easy expansion and plenty of speed in Plex. QuickSync is where it's at - for cheap - with PlexPass.
Thanks for the reply. I've never heard of an Intel Box. Can you provide a link to one costing $200 that will work as a Plex server? I searched on amazon and the least expensive one I could find was $319.
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HappyDome8591Mar 07, 2023 07:13 PM
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Quote from dclive :
I don't code, but based on https://github.com/devMEremenko/XcodeBenchmark this Xcode benchmark, the fastest Apple Intel CPU is slower than the very slowest M1 Mac.

Those who code should look at these numbers as a reasonable starting point for a benchmark.
I'm aware of that benchmark. It is valuable information. But also know that people don't just have 1 instance of XCode open and run compiles all day. People also go on the internet with a few tabs to do research and monitor a few chat apps and occasionally drop in a meeting in the browser. Compile is very occasional (perhaps no more than 5 minutes of the hour on my slow machine, which can be made into 2 minutes with M1). It is difficult to really benchmark real world use cases.

Indeed, when running with light memory load, the M1 CPUs are great, and even with moderate memory loads, the disk swapping is fast enough to keep up with most tasks. But there is indeed wear on the SSD, which again would be hard to determine to what extend that would be an issue given a workload.

When memory is plenty, disk read and write is cached in empty memory, so even if your normal disk speed isn't high (like the M2 256GB models), it well appear snappier than the numbers suggest. Again a disk copy benchmark will not tell you that. It will also minimize SSD wear because not all writes are immediately written.

I'm well aware of the M1 benefits. But I've determined the drawback of the 8GB machine is too painful. I would even go the extra mile to the 24GB while I'm willing to keep the storage at 256GB and do most of my work on an external SSD. I'm not copying 50GB files every 10 minutes for fun, so I expect the practical speed of the external SSD to be sufficient when compared to the faster internal storage.
Last edited by HappyDome8591 March 7, 2023 at 12:15 PM.
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klingon_masterMar 07, 2023 10:02 PM
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How does the graphics on these computers compared to a PC with a Nvidia or AMD video card? This seems like a real good deal for a Mac Mini if you can accept the fact you won't be able to upgrade anything. I have an HP computer with a AMD Ryzen 5 2400G and the benchmark score is about 40% lower than the Apple M1 CPU.
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