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SVS Subwoofers (Outlet): PB2000 500W 12" Driver $600, PB1000 300W 10" Driver

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Update: This popular deal is still available.

SVS Sound has select SVS Subwoofers on sale starting at $399.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to community member mbbeaubi for finding this deal.
  • Note: Save an extra 5% off on the purchase of 2 or more subwoofers with promo code GODUAL (apply at checkout).
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  • Outlet Specials: No damage. Factory inspected and tested. 5-Year Unconditional Warranty and complete Bill of Rights coverage.

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brokebroker83
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The two users arguing back and forth, do us all a favor and take it to PMs. No cares about the pointless back and forth which has nothing to do with the deal.
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Knightshade
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This is the same outlet pricing they run every couple of months at this point.... Usually outlet stuff are returned or scuffed or something but they're full warranty so shouldn't be a concern.... the PB2k at $599 is a terrific deal for a moderately sized space
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It's been this $599 price now for months! they made too many of them or they did not sell as many as they thought because previously when they made more of these pb's they were $499 and they sold like hot cakes. Honestly, the $599 price are not returns, they are just trying to get rid of them and by saying they are "outlets" units, they can price it $599. You can still go on there site and buy it for $699 but that is just to save face with there dealers who are mostly selling it for $699 even thou I have seen a few of them drop it down to $599 on amazon from time to time for brand new unit. That said, the Pb-2000 is a very good sub, two of them really work well in a moderate sized room! SVS Customer service is Outstanding!! This sub , however, would be even better at $499 like a few years ago!!
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Quote from Orta View quoted comment :
Audyssey is very very bad at "aligning" multi-subs, even XT32. It doesn't seem to measure FR response during the first step where it combines them into a single sub, just matches volume and timing/phase. This is going to produce massive phase cancelation nulls at certain frequencies in a lot of rooms. Given the length and propogation of bass waves in small rooms, and the way we hear them, you don't necessarily want subwoofers phase or volume matched, you want to adjust them independently to produce the most linear frequency response when they're all combined together. Again, Audyssey doesn't do this, takes a lot of trial and error analysis. You have to do it manually with a mic/software and the dials on the sub/a MiniDSP, then Y-cable them all to a single port on the AVR. This lets Auyssey correct the single global sub without forking up the volume/phase of the independent subs.

On a related note, and for many of the same reasons, it's also terrible at setting the crossover point. It always sets it too low, then people change it, and the poor phase match between the mains and subs introduces large frequency response nulls.
You hit the nail on the head here with Audyssey XT32.....requires a lot of after calibration tweaking in my experience
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Quote from supermanrob View quoted comment :
I would counter that's misleading, there are other factors that play a big role with this like quality of your speakers, the placement of them, room layout & its acoustics.
It will happen to any RC & it will not fix any of those.

Being able to manipulate your results is a main benefit to better RC's like Dirac,MultEQ-X,etc.
I don't know anyone that doesn't make changes to the results with these better RC's.

Adding Audyssey's app to XT32 opens up some beneficial adjustments that are well worth its weight in gold IMO.
In my experience , Audyssey X32 requires a LOT more post calibration tweaking.

There are threads with hundreds of posts , on AVS forum , speaking to the very topic of tweaks for Audyssey to try to fix the post calibration imperfections
Dirac( or ARC), are more challenging to initially set up, but neither seem to require the myriad of tweaks to try to correct the calibration fallacies you get with Audyssey
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Backhome77Mar 10, 2023 2:30 PM
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Quote from ben7337 View quoted comment :
Maybe this is a dumb question but why does the back of the sub have a left and right input? How do you connect to a line out on a 5.1 or 7.1 receiver?
Not all devices have a dedicated sub-out. Some just have a full range RCA out. In which case, you can use the subwoofer's built-in crossover.

It's not needed with most modern receivers, but it increases the flexibility and use options of the subwoofer.
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reardomarkMar 10, 2023 2:52 PM
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Anyone recommend which version to compliment a pair of KEF q350s with a denon receiver (S660H)? Going to eventually add a center channel KEF Q650c (or via a third q350s)
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KnightshadeMar 10, 2023 3:22 PM
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Quote from reardomark View quoted comment :
Anyone recommend which version to compliment a pair of KEF q350s with a denon receiver (S660H)? Going to eventually add a center channel KEF Q650c (or via a third q350s)

For what content?

And open to what volume of space?
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Mar 10, 2023 3:43 PM
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mbbeaubi
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Quote from kdn102 View quoted comment :
Where's the user that always says "you can buikd one for far less."

I'm interested in doing just that. Could you send a few urls to get me started? Thanks!
I doubt you could build one this size for much less anymore.

12" woofer. $200
500 watt power amp. $200
Plywood, screws, paint, glue. $150

So maybe you save 50 bucks, but then you have to factor in time.

Now if you aren't married and want to build a massive 18" Marty Sub, that you could do for maybe $1K, which would save you some money. But no wife will allow you to have one.
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Kuma1Mar 10, 2023 4:38 PM
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Quote from mbbeaubi View quoted comment :
I doubt you could build one this size for much less anymore.

12" woofer. $200
500 watt power amp. $200
Plywood, screws, paint, glue. $150

So maybe you save 50 bucks, but then you have to factor in time.

Now if you aren't married and want to build a massive 18" Marty Sub, that you could do for maybe $1K, which would save you some money. But no wife will allow you to have one.
Do you know of a 500 watt sub amp for $200? A 12 year old sub amp is toast and I want to replace it. I dont abuse the sub or play real loud so the driver/speaker should be fine and dont want to spend $500 on a new sub.

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Quote from turnne View quoted comment :
In my experience , Audyssey X32 requires a LOT more post calibration tweaking.

There are threads with hundreds of posts , on AVS forum , speaking to the very topic of tweaks for Audyssey to try to fix the post calibration imperfections
Dirac( or ARC), are more challenging to initially set up, but neither seem to require the myriad of tweaks to try to correct the calibration fallacies you get with Audyssey
In my experience with both in many different setups I can attest to the other opinions on AVS,other forums, mag reviews, etc that results can vary widely between the two(including other RC's).

In my own system using both the results were very similar so I didn't have to make "A LOT" of tweaks.
Especially when you consider the cost difference, Editor app cost $20 vs the cost to get Dirac $1200( no bass management).
I definitely did not hear a $1180 sound difference.

Another great benefit with the app, if you want Dirac tweak(ability) for much less you can get their MultEQ-X for $199.
Your final results will be extremely similar, especially when you take into account the price difference IMO.
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OliveActivity9779Mar 10, 2023 5:19 PM
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I have been watching this site for months for a good deal.

My Prime Pinnacle floorstanding speakers match seems to be PB-4000s :|
Anyone match PM-2000s with these speakers?
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Quote from supermanrob View quoted comment :
In my experience with both in many different setups I can attest to the other opinions on AVS,other forums, mag reviews, etc that results can vary widely between the two(including other RC's).

In my own system using both the results were very similar so I didn't have to make "A LOT" of tweaks.
Especially when you consider the cost difference, Editor app cost $20 vs the cost to get Dirac $1200( no bass management).
I definitely did not hear a $1180 sound difference.

Another great benefit with the app, if you want Dirac tweak(ability) for much less you can get their MultEQ-X for $199.
Your final results will be extremely similar, especially when you take into account the price difference IMO.
In my personal experience , friends, associates, AVS forum testimonials etc who have had experience with both systems, You are the only person I have seen with that opinion of thinking that Audyssey compares to Dirac

But I understand..you do you

The financial statement is a moot point unless you are considering a replacement, of any type, in the first place
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supermanrobMar 10, 2023 7:12 PM
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Quote from turnne View quoted comment :
In my personal experience , friends, associates, AVS forum testimonials etc who have had experience with both systems, You are the only person I have seen with that opinion of thinking that Audyssey compares to Dirac

But I understand..you do you

The financial statement is a moot point unless you are considering a replacement, of any type, in the first place
Hmm that's interesting since even in SD alone regarding Onkyo/Pioneer people using them mentioned they were unimpressed or actually preferred MCACC.
If you read S&V's review on Pioneer's 505 they found it "similar" sounding also.

I disagree on the financial part, most people looking at those threads are at least considering a replacement.

With those opposing opinions, do you want to pay $1200 for "similar" results makes it very relevant.
Especially true if you can add the Editor app or MultEQ-X to your current AVR for much less.
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wysiwyg1652Mar 10, 2023 8:06 PM
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Quote from supermanrob View quoted comment :
In my experience with both in many different setups I can attest to the other opinions on AVS,other forums, mag reviews, etc that results can vary widely between the two(including other RC's).

In my own system using both the results were very similar so I didn't have to make "A LOT" of tweaks.
Especially when you consider the cost difference, Editor app cost $20 vs the cost to get Dirac $1200( no bass management).
I definitely did not hear a $1180 sound difference.

Another great benefit with the app, if you want Dirac tweak(ability) for much less you can get their MultEQ-X for $199.
Your final results will be extremely similar, especially when you take into account the price difference IMO.
The latest version of Audyssey MultiEq XT32 on the Denon AVR x3800H and higher adds support for up to 4 subs. The Audyssey app is also well worth it for $20 because you can tweak the response curves and hear the impact right away after uploading the new curves to the receiver from the app
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Quote from wysiwyg1652 View quoted comment :
The latest version of Audyssey MultiEq XT32 on the Denon AVR x3800H and higher adds support for up to 4 subs. The Audyssey app is also well worth it for $20 because you can tweak the response curves and hear the impact right away after uploading the new curves to the receiver from the app
Yes I agree and they are independent outs also.

Being able to adjust the frequency range and mid comps are a benefit also.
Not to mention saving multiple measurement files & switching out easily from the app!

For me the 3800 is very intriguing as a pre/pro, works very well as one.
If you go to AVS you can see how well it holds it's own against dedicated processors especially when you consider the price difference!

If I could get a new one for under $1k, it may be too hard to resist!
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Quote from supermanrob View quoted comment :
Hmm that's interesting since even in SD alone regarding Onkyo/Pioneer people using them mentioned they were unimpressed or actually preferred MCACC.
If you read S&V's review on Pioneer's 505 they found it "similar" sounding also.

I disagree on the financial part, most people looking at those threads are at least considering a replacement.

With those opposing opinions, do you want to pay $1200 for "similar" results makes it very relevant.
Especially true if you can add the Editor app or MultEQ-X to your current AVR for much less.
I dont recall seeing a poster note a preference for MCACC...but you were talking about Audyssey correct?

When you speak about the MCACC from Sound and Vision I assume you saw the rest of the sentence where the reviewer said he " could not make a meaningful comparison" between the RC systems?

But again...were you considering MCACC or have you been mentioning Audyssey this whole time?

If someone is considering replacement then your statement about the $1200 ish upgrade is a moot one
But again...that is speculation anyway

I dont understand how MCACC is coming into play here since it was never mentioned
Again..I can find a myriad of reviews that say Dirac is better than Audyssey
There pages of AVS forum reviews, A few custom installers that post here and a myriad of you tube A/V guys that all agree

But like I said before
If you think Audyssey is better ..then you do you

Not even sure where the MCACC subject came from though....
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Quote from maheeinfy View quoted comment :
I have PB2000. While it is great for movies, it is not the cleanest for music
My HSU vtf2 is lot more clean with its variable control. I can adjust it for music or slightly less clean but more powah for movies. For that reason i like hsu more than svs
Now someone would have to compare different products and go down the rabbit hole. There is always something "better" but I'm totally satisfied with my PB2000 for music and movies and I'm saving hours researching subs!

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