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12-Pack 16-Oz. Amazon Brand Solimo Sugar Free Energy Drink (Silver)

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Groch
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Erythritol is the #1 ingredient after water. Google erythritol. "We were looking for compounds in blood that predict risk for experiencing a future heart attack or stroke. The top candidate that kept showing up was erythritol,"

Artificial Sweetener Erythritol's Major Health Risks [clevelandclinic.org]

This was a very large study (over 1000 subjects) and people with high Erythritol usage had twice the heart attack/stroke risk.

If you are young with no issues perhaps its OK. Certainly do not offer a can to anyone with diabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, or others at risk. It stays in your system many days.
Gt7737
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Those numbers are off for every one that I personally drink
rockstar 240mg
Monster 140mg
Ghost 200mg

And bang is correct at 300mg.

And I don't drink redbull but a quick search shows it at 80mg
Justin1985
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Rockstar comes in multiple different levels of caffeine. 160mg, 240mg and 300 mg.

The fact that I know this off the top of my head probably means I have a issue with energy drinks lol.

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Mar 26, 2023 06:23 PM
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SkillfulPiranha7944Mar 26, 2023 06:23 PM
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I'm guessing that this is old stock that Amazon is trying to get rid of. Solimo hasn't existed as a brand for awhile. The horrible sounding name was a bust so Amazon renamed its house brand to simply Amazon Basic.

I'm also guessing that these didn't sell very well. That very unappealing packaging reminds me of industrial solvent or motor oil. Ugh
Last edited by SkillfulPiranha7944 March 26, 2023 at 11:26 AM.
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chargerMar 26, 2023 06:30 PM
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12pk of Zoa is on sale at Costco right now until 4/2, ~$0.91/can.
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JohnW2333Mar 26, 2023 06:32 PM
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Quote from billg7 :
old newshe government is only ok with taking extra money and finding reasons where this is possiblets only about money, not selling people poisontudent loans for exampleets have people pay extra money for interest and if people cant afford it the government still makes that extra money either wayeople are giving them money for the rest of their lives, even when an amazon energy drink gives them the cancer.
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natefanslerMar 26, 2023 06:38 PM
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I still have these in my garage fridge from when I bought them to get through the monster zero ultra shortage a couple years ago. I can't bring myself to drink them. Something in them leaves a weird powdery taste that makes me feel disgusted long after I finish them. I shuddered when I saw them in the fridge last week and remembered the taste.

I don't think these could be cheap enough for me to buy again.
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mcoope3Mar 26, 2023 06:51 PM
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Quote from Groch :
That Mayo-Clinic article was written before the Cleveland Clinic Feb 2023 test was made public. The study says that erithritol's negative effect is blood clotting, not blood sugar. The Cleveland Clinic results really surprised me, a 50% increase in risk is huge, the equivalent of stopping all of my HBP medications. So, my posting this link is because it is new information, and because I personally was consuming a lot of erithritol, which I have now stopped until there are further tests that dispute this one.

My guess is if you are not at risk for strokes, heart disease, or HBP it may be fine. If you have these risks, you should at least Google the new study and make up your own mind.
Yep. There are even some varieties of Monster or Rock Star without Erythritol. At this point why take the risk with Erythritol when there are so many alternatives? Other artificial sweeteners have been used in the most popular diet sodas for years so at least we know some baseline for how safe they are or are not. Erythritol has not been very commonly used in these concentrations in mainstream products until recently when someone decided it might be safer than common artificial sweeteners because it is 'naturally occurring.' But lots of things are naturally occurring in our bodies like hormones, methane, dopamine, etc that would not be safe in a 100x dose. Its just safer at this time to stick with nutra sweet or splenda than to consume those anyway (they are still in most energy drinks with the Erythritol) but add a splash of Erthythritol too that has just been linked to clotting and may act like a reverse aspirin for heart health.

It's possible this correlation is not causation, but in this case there is both correlation and a mechanism for causation, Erythritol promotes clotting in lab studies. Maybe its just people who use Erththritol were already unhealthy, but they studies tons of compounds and this one stood out, while many other compounds are also definitely marketed to diet and fitness fans and to people pushing the limits for energy. It could also be the effect is even worse than the study shows because certainly most cardiologists would not recommend any energy drinks, people with a family history of heart disease may naturally be more cautious about trying these products, and energy drinks are popular with with fitness nuts and young people, so it could actually be that the people drinking energy drinks are healthier than average and the actual risk is 3x for heart attacks. That would better explain why no other compounds marketed to a similar demographic showed a similar link. More can be studied in a few years, but for now it seems safer to let the guinea pigs be the guinea pigs not you. Fortunately the clotting effect only lasts a few days so if you didn't have a heart attack or stroke already you are in the clear and there should be no lasting damage. But why risk it tomorrow? Just pick a different energy drink that tastes sweet in a slightly different way that also has 0 calories and let the studies get done.
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SkillfulPiranha7944Mar 26, 2023 06:59 PM
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Quote from abraxist :
Your body produces erythritol naturally. I believe the recent study only looked at extremely sick people and I don't think it looked at or controlled for exogenous erythritol consumption.

I have not read the study personally but saw criticism from reliable sources.
Yeah but exogenous consumptioncan increase serum levels up to 1000 fold, much more than trace metabolites normally found. Because it's less sweet than sugar, high levels are used to sweeten food. Furthermore, in vitro studies show that platelets clump up when exposed to high levels of erythritol. Platelets clumping is what causes the clotting in cardiovascular disease (and why we take aspirin as a preventative. It acts on the platelets, and is not a blood thinner as some believe). Although the observation was merely correlational and not causal, it all makes sense. I would definitely avoid erythritol regardless of health status.

From the abstract:
"At physiological levels, erythritol enhanced platelet reactivity in vitro and thrombosis formation in vivo. Finally, in a prospective pilot intervention study (NCT04731363), erythritol ingestion in healthy volunteers (nā€‰=ā€‰8) induced marked and sustained (>2ā€‰d) increases in plasma erythritol levels well above thresholds associated with heightened platelet reactivity and thrombosis potential in in vitro and in vivo studies."
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sportbikerider78Mar 26, 2023 07:03 PM
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When I see Amazon branded food products, they never tell you where it is made. For good reason of course.
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flapjabbyMar 26, 2023 08:09 PM
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Quote from so-so7 :
It's a Myth that energy drinks are bad for you
What's the reason we can't achieve optimal health and performance without it? or can we with lifestyle changes and skip the energy supplements?
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MordyNYCMar 26, 2023 08:27 PM
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Liquid garbage they make over 1000% margins lol
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mbrooks43Mar 27, 2023 01:03 AM
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More important how does this taste?
A bit grapefruit with a pineapple finish. Not too bad.
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mejiaMar 27, 2023 03:36 AM
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Taste like the white monsters. I love these!
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abraxistMar 27, 2023 04:04 AM
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Quote from TravisB7539 :
"I haven't read the study but I'm here to tell you - someone else me told it's wrong."

Really dude?

Correct. I don't have a medical or biochemistry degree, I haven't used statistics since college nor do I have enough of an interest in this to spend the maybe 8 hours it would really take to review the study and other research on erythritol to form a decent opinion of my own.

Dr Layne Norton does have a PHD in a related field and does a pretty good (brief) critical review of the study (or at least the media sensationalism of the study) here:
https://twitter.com/BioLayne/stat...BA-dw&s=19

That's all I've got. Just trying to point out that the study might have pretty limited application to not unhealthy people. If I was unhealthy, I might take caution and wait until more research comes out but luckily I am not -maybe because I consume so many artificial sweeteners šŸ˜‚ instead of sugar?
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abraxistMar 27, 2023 04:59 AM
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Quote from SkillfulPiranha7944 :
Yeah but exogenous consumptioncan increase serum levels up to 1000 fold, much more than trace metabolites normally found. Because it's less sweet than sugar, high levels are used to sweeten food. Furthermore, in vitro studies show that platelets clump up when exposed to high levels of erythritol. Platelets clumping is what causes the clotting in cardiovascular disease (and why we take aspirin as a preventative. It acts on the platelets, and is not a blood thinner as some believe). Although the observation was merely correlational and not causal, it all makes sense. I would definitely avoid erythritol regardless of health status.

From the abstract:
"At physiological levels, erythritol enhanced platelet reactivity in vitro and thrombosis formation in vivo. Finally, in a prospective pilot intervention study (NCT04731363), erythritol ingestion in healthy volunteers (nā€‰=ā€‰8) induced marked and sustained (>2ā€‰d) increases in plasma erythritol levels well above thresholds associated with heightened platelet reactivity and thrombosis potential in in vitro and in vivo studies."
Good stuff. A hypothesis, mechanism and theory. Will be interesting to see if this applies to healthy people or relates to erythritol consumption.

Would clumping platelets be something of any concern to a healthy person or just something they would easily clear? If I am not mistaken, daily aspirin therapy is NOT reccomended for healthy people as the risks outweigh any benefit.
Last edited by abraxist March 26, 2023 at 10:13 PM.
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borisaurusMar 27, 2023 05:43 AM
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Quote from Groch :
Erythritol is the #1 ingredient after water. Google erythritol. "We were looking for compounds in blood that predict risk for experiencing a future heart attack or stroke. The top candidate that kept showing up was erythritol,"

Artificial Sweetener Erythritol's Major Health Risks [clevelandclinic.org]

This was a very large study (over 1000 subjects) and people with high Erythritol usage had twice the heart attack/stroke risk.

If you are young with no issues perhaps its OK. Certainly do not offer a can to anyone with diabetes, high blood pressure, high cholesterol, or others at risk. It stays in your system many days.
That study was debunked and considered false based on info nearly immediately. Dietary erythritol has morning to do with natural occurring erythritol

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QuiTuMar 27, 2023 12:37 PM
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I get that I can get the 20% discount if I add $50 of these cans to checkout but what if I wanted to take advantage of the extra 5% off with Subscribe and Save? I want to get 3 of the white kind and 2 of the red but the way they do S&S is that they want you to checkout one at a time. Will I still get the 20% discount if I add these cases one at a time to S&S or does it have to be all in one go?

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