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expiredDr.W posted Mar 26, 2023 01:01 AM

(Microcenter) MSI Katana 15: 15.6" FHD 144Hz, i7-12650H, RTX 4060 (105W), 16GB DDR5, 512GB SSD $999.99

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SPECS:
  • 15.6" FHD (1920 x 1080) 16:9, 144Hz, 250-nits, 45% NTSC, Anti-glare, IPS Display
  • Intel Core i7-12450H 6+4Core (1.7-4.7GHz) Processor
  • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Laptop GPU Up to 2250MHz Boost Clock; 105W Maximum Graphics Power with Dynamic Boost; 8GB GDDR6
  • 16GB (2x 8GB) DDR5 4800MHz
  • 512GB NVMe SSD Gen4x4
  • Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX201 + BT 5.2
  • 720p HD Webcam
  • 4 Zone backlight RGB with NUM key (xx Key)
  • 3-cell 53.5Whr Li-Polymer Battery
  • 4.96 lbs.
  • Model: B12VFK-291US
  • Ports:
    • 2x USB 3.2 (Gen 1 Type-A)
    • 1x USB 3.2 (Gen 1 Type-C) w/DP1.4
    • 1x USB 2.0 (Type-A)
    • 1x HDMI 2.1 8K@60/4K@120
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10 in stock at the time of posting this.

SPECS:
  • 15.6" FHD (1920 x 1080) 16:9, 144Hz, 250-nits, 45% NTSC, Anti-glare, IPS Display
  • Intel Core i7-12450H 6+4Core (1.7-4.7GHz) Processor
  • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Laptop GPU Up to 2250MHz Boost Clock; 105W Maximum Graphics Power with Dynamic Boost; 8GB GDDR6
  • 16GB (2x 8GB) DDR5 4800MHz
  • 512GB NVMe SSD Gen4x4
  • Intel Wi-Fi 6 AX201 + BT 5.2
  • 720p HD Webcam
  • 4 Zone backlight RGB with NUM key (xx Key)
  • 3-cell 53.5Whr Li-Polymer Battery
  • 4.96 lbs.
  • Model: B12VFK-291US
  • Ports:
    • 2x USB 3.2 (Gen 1 Type-A)
    • 1x USB 3.2 (Gen 1 Type-C) w/DP1.4
    • 1x USB 2.0 (Type-A)
    • 1x HDMI 2.1 8K@60/4K@120
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Mar 26, 2023 01:18 AM
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mattymsu25Mar 26, 2023 01:18 AM
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250 NITS, 105W Max
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Mar 26, 2023 10:00 AM
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Earthling_SumeghMar 26, 2023 10:00 AM
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Quote from mattymsu25 :
250 NITS, 105W Max
Also the 45% NTSC color is unacceptable for this price range
Last edited by Earthling_Sumegh March 26, 2023 at 12:46 PM.
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Mar 26, 2023 04:17 PM
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Mar 26, 2023 04:17 PM
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Quote from Earthling_Sumegh :
Also

45% NTSC
i7 - 12th gen
3-cell 53.5Whr Li-Polymer Battery
4060 has a miniscul performance boost over a 3060... 4060 has less cuda core, less tensor cores, and less ray-tracing cores...

JarrodsTech comparing the two.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BwZfEqkuXqs
Last edited by ghostfreckle March 26, 2023 at 09:23 AM.
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Mar 26, 2023 04:32 PM
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rruffMar 26, 2023 04:32 PM
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Quote from ghostfreckle :
Also, 4060 is a worse gpu than a 3060. On games that it gets more fps
The 4060 (if it's running 90-100W or higher) is 5-15% faster than a 140W 3060... based on reviews from; Jarrod's Tech, Notebookcheck, and Hubwood.

The 4050,4060, and 4070 GPUs are voltage limited and will not boost past 100W regardless of their TGP. So this laptop is very close to being full power. It needs boost to get to 105W, standard with significant CPU is 85W.

The display is very low spec... the worst feature IMO.
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Mar 26, 2023 09:23 PM
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-_Moon_I_Knight_-Mar 26, 2023 09:23 PM
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Quote from mattymsu25 :
250 NITS, 105W Max
105w is enough for 4060
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Mar 26, 2023 09:35 PM
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LordKelMar 26, 2023 09:35 PM
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Quote from rruff :
The 4060 (if it's running 90-100W or higher) is 5-15% faster than a 140W 3060... based on reviews from; Jarrod's Tech, Notebookcheck, and Hubwood.

The 4050,4060, and 4070 GPUs are voltage limited and will not boost past 100W regardless of their TGP. So this laptop is very close to being full power. It needs boost to get to 105W, standard with significant CPU is 85W.

The display is very low spec... the worst feature IMO.
Should I just stick with my 1660 ti laptop with 32gb of ram or sell it and get this…
Mar 26, 2023 10:36 PM
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jmandawgMar 26, 2023 10:36 PM
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I'd get a 3070 laptop for the same price
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Mar 27, 2023 12:17 AM
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Quote from jmandawg :
I'd get a 3070 laptop for the same price
Go on then, please provide us the link to a new full powered 3070 laptop for the "same price".
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Mar 27, 2023 02:31 AM
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rruffMar 27, 2023 02:31 AM
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Quote from LordKel :
Should I just stick with my 1660 ti laptop with 32gb of ram or sell it and get this…
This isn't a bad deal if you don't care about the display. If you do, I wouldn't get it. Wait for something better.
Mar 27, 2023 03:56 PM
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Quote from LordKel :
Should I just stick with my 1660 ti laptop with 32gb of ram or sell it and get this…
If you're happy now, I'd say stick with what you have. I have a Legion 5 Pro 5800H/3070 140w that I upgraded to 32GB and 3TB of storage. Runs everything well in widescreen at 3440x1440. I'd love to upgrade or build another machine but it's such a hassle to get a new machine in place and redownload games, etc. Especially with prices going up and down, if it were me, I'd wait for a better machine like a Legion 5 Pro with a good screen and proven thermals, performance, etc.

Just my $.02. Take it for what you paid for it Stick Out Tongue

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Mar 27, 2023 06:14 PM
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cuoreesitanteMar 27, 2023 06:14 PM
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For $100 more I'd probably get the Zephyrus G14: https://slickdeals.net/f/16524841-asus-rog-zephyrus-14-wqxga-120hz-gaming-laptop-amd-ryzen-9-16gb-ddr5-memory-amd-radeon-rx-6700s-1tb-pcie-4-0-ssd-1099-99?src=SiteSearch

Much better build quality, better screen specs, more SSD, and on-par graphics.
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Mar 27, 2023 08:53 PM
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smacky00Mar 27, 2023 08:53 PM
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Why are 2023 models being released with 12th gen CPUs?
Mar 27, 2023 09:23 PM
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crazygideonMar 27, 2023 09:23 PM
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Quote from smacky00 :
Why are 2023 models being released with 12th gen CPUs?
Because a 4060 is so weak it doesn't need a better CPU, it's not bottlenecked by a 12th Gen CPU. Plus it's added cost to the overall laptop to use a 13th Gen CPU.
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Mar 27, 2023 11:06 PM
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JradjonesMar 27, 2023 11:06 PM
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MSI Katana gives great specs for te price, but the build quality is among the worst I've ever owned. I bought the 3060 version last year and it works for a desktop replacement but is not a laptop you can take places and use as an actual laptop. Chassis is made from such cheap plastic the hinges will snap with minimal use. Battery is awful. Fan is loud. Brick is huge etc. If you know the risks and like the specs, it can work, just don't think you're getting a proper laptop.
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CheapRockaMar 27, 2023 11:17 PM
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Quote from cuoreesitante :
For $100 more I'd probably get the Zephyrus G14: https://slickdeals.net/f/16524841-asus-rog-zephyrus-14-wqxga-120hz-gaming-laptop-amd-ryzen-9-16gb-ddr5-memory-amd-radeon-rx-6700s-1tb-pcie-4-0-ssd-1099-99?src=SiteSearch

Much better build quality, better screen specs, more SSD, and on-par graphics.
This was nice if you could care less with being white color, it get stained easily.
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