Price drop on every Tesla model - $49990

This isn't aimed specifically at you, but the thread in general after reading through it.

The Bolt is a good Corolla or Civic of the EV world though. In terms of finish and interior in general, I like the EUV Premier more. Neither Bolts or any Tesla externally "look good" imo, and the Teslas aren't anything fancy - they have had decent tech ahead of the competition and have pushed the market forward, but that's about it. I think after the first few years, they started to get more of a cult following - there was nothing else that compared at the time. Now they need to do more to actually compete, and stop trying to continue based on their past reputation. The next 5 years will be interesting across all sides of the EV battle, and ICE reputation will be a thing of the past - we can judge manufacturers by the first generations of their EV products, how well they hold up, and how they are maintained past 10 years of age.

Decreasing prices on the Teslas is still a good deal though, especially with the devaluation of the currency, so I agree with this Slickdeal post.

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We went through the research, test driving and riding (from owners we knew - nothing available at dealers), etc for two new vehicle purchases over the last couple years, for the post-covid world. Our cars and truck were all approaching 10 years old, things were beginning to go bad and each repair on two of them were not doable without a shop/expensive computers to clear permanent codes and such. We wanted newer driver-assist tech to make commuting and long trips more relaxing. We looked at Tesla, Toyota, Honda, Ford, a couple GM brands, and the newer Hyundai EVs, in the $30-60k ranges.

Our Bolt EUV vs Model Y decision:

We replaced one of our vehicles, with an EUV Premier with supercruise and love it. After all is done, the Bolt costs about $100/mo more versus keeping the old vehicle around, after the tax credit, low $9k old car sale that was completed next-day after posting it, and fuel savings (0.09c/kW, increased to 10c/kW in the calculations to account for charging losses), not accounting for maintenance savings from the old aging gas vehicle. Overall it's more likely that the Bolt was closer to a free replacement. We permanently sold the third vehicle, and are also replacing our last vehicle with a higher trimmed hybrid/gas for the longer multi-thousand-mile trips, when it's finally built, but the EUV will still be a better-featured, better-trimmed vehicle, and much cheaper.

There are things I don't like about any single vehicle, and I have things I don't like about Bolt. We do only pay $400/6mo for full coverage in the middle of the coverage options on the Bolt - it costs the same as the full coverage we had on the 10 year old car. We do get 230-250 miles of highway range in the 35-45 degree winter days, but I do have to stop to top off for 15 minutes on a 290 mile round trip. I'd love to see the 300+ mile ranges in the summer. It feels like a typical 200hp 3500lb+ vehicle and it handles like it looks, but for $36k out the door before the full tax credit, it's the perfect vehicle to have in a 2-primary-vehicle household where the second one can make up for the Bolt's limitations. The DCFC is pretty slow, but even 50kW wouldn't be that bad once EVs and home chargers are more widespread - I'm thinking holiday visits to family homes. By then everyone with newer EVs will have 300-500kW DCFC vehicles though. Most people rarely go on actual "road trips," but rather may see a relative within a major city away, so plugging in at 3-9kW speeds at someone's home will be fine. The interior room on the EUV is also quite good - the back seat's proportions reminded me of my previous supercrew truck - smaller obviously, but still roomy. Similar rear legroom to the Model Y, but of course this always depends on front seat positioning. Model Y has more max interior cargo space, and the frunk.

Supercruise, completely hands-free for hours, is amazing though, and nothing else is close to the $28,500 effective purchase price with all that it came with. SC was well worth the $2k addon (yes, only for the first 3 years). I wish we could get hands-free driving assist in our second vehicle being purchased. I was also surprised at how well supercruise handled a storm at night during a longer trip - I expected full disengagement when even I could barely see the worn lane marker paint myself, but the car did fine. I still had my attention 100% watching the lanes and waiting for disengagement during the heaviest part of the storm though, as that's a situation that such driving assistance shouldn't be used, but I wanted to see how things would be handled by the supercruise system. I've seen worse performance from autopilot in dark stormy situations, but not that same stretch of highway, so I understand that they shouldn't be compared unless the two vehicles are doing the same stretch at the same day/time and weather. Only 2 disengagements on the trip, in the same areas where it does the same during the clear sunny day - construction zones.

Of course SC is limited to highways, which is largely fine, but no lane-centering anywhere else is a big drawback of the GM system, compared to basic lane centering from nearly everyone else at this point, including what seems like all of Toyota's trim levels.

I just can't get over Tesla's aftermarket/repair limitations, the legality of all that in the first place, and repair costs for even basic body parts. Still loved Tesla for existing to finally push EVs mainstream though. I've been tempted by the model Y, for its 3500lb legal tow rating - a trailer can do a lot/more than a truck bed, and 3500lb is many single-axle trailers, which are a register-once-for-life in my state.

but........

The Bolt's headlights and tail lights are STUPID . Some other drivers don't realize that the car's headlights ARE on - they're just positioned lower, where people would think foglights would be. I can't understand this terrible design choice. It does keep glare to other drivers extremely low though - I've driven ahead of and behind the Bolt to get perspective on what others see, including testing to see when the brake lights turn on during regen-decel/rate.


Anyway, to each their own, but short of faster charging and the good towing capacity, I'd take the much cheaper Bolt (EUV) over a Model Y any day, and we did. We ordered in December, took delivery early February. I believe that Bolt availability without markup is an issue today. If the Model Y was $5k more all-in than the similarly-loaded Bolt, then I'd probably have purchased the Tesla because I do dislike slow charging, and Teslas should maintain their value much better than the dead-platform Bolt. I'm on the fence regarding the new EV competition coming out vs the Tesla options, but priced similarly, today I'd lean toward anyone else who isn't Tesla, largely dependent on how anti-consumer, and the basic repair costs/part availability, any specific product is, and weighted alongside the manufacturer as a whole. The lines are blurred and it's getting more difficult to make purchasing decisions today/into the next year or two. Give me a reasonably-optioned Model Y (or X) without FSD, with 400 miles of obtainable summer range, under $50k and I'd be tempted, without tax credit. I don't think our next EV purchase will be until we can have good DCFC with 400+ miles of range, not at $80-100k at today's dollar value, and at least a heat pump for the winter to help those losses.

Tesla's isn't really the defacto standard anymore imo, and I imagine their current drawbacks will be addressed in the coming years, during the same time that everyone else finishes catching up.

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Sure, if you have $48,000 in cash laying around and can buy next week. I personally would go with the bolt. It's almost $20k cheaper and pretty much the same car.

Slickdeals: Oh we can't be seen driving a Bolt, we have to get a Tesla.
Also Slickdeals: Let's go to Mcdonald's, they have free 5 piece McNuggets on a Dollar purchase.

yup..I just tried and been told that they don't retroactively adjust prices for deliveries prior to the price change

Are you kidding me? If it hasn't shipped or been issued a Vin, they won't adjust the price? Thats insane. I will cancel the order on principle and just reorder for $500 less.

I bought a Nissan Leaf last year and love it as a daily commuter.

Why would you own a 45k vehicle (including tax and charges) for driving 20 miles everyday?

The Leaf is the ideal vehicle for daily commute and city driving. Best value for money, ultra low maintenance, low cost upfront, lower insurance, no gas fill up time and very fun to drive.

People buying over priced Tesla as their first EV should consider other options and check out Reddit forums before buying. I never knew that Nissan Leaf had so much love and loyalty. Also, wait for another 2 years and the market will be flooded with EV vehicles in all price ranges from many manufacturers. Right time to buy an EV is 2 years from now.

You're not lying! This thread getting more posts than the Tyson chicken strips deal! 🤣🤣

Most of us are broke and try to save money wherever we can and still cannot afford a Tesla. Don't need to rub it in.

Does anyone have experience in getting price adjustment on a recent order (just few days old), no delivery date assigned.

A model 3 uses 25Kwh to go 100 miles in optimal conditions.
A Prius gets 56MPG, approx 1.8gallons for 100 miles.

The rate for electricity in CA is $0.26 per KWH. = $6.50 for 100 miles.
Alameda Street Supercharger is $0.56 per to charge (8am to 7pm). = $14.00
A Prius gets 56MPG. The average cost at Alameda is $5/gal = $9.00

So a Model 3 beating a Prius in cost per mile depends on how much they need to use the supercharger. In my area, I see all the Tesla chargers full when I drive by. So people must "need" it

Couldn't be happier with my MYP delivered 5 weeks ago.