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Includes a 5-year or TBW (Terabytes Written) limited warranty
Please note that this product (CARDEA A440) comes with two heat sinks. One is a Graphene heat sink (with 3.7mm height) that could be fit in the PS5 SSD slot. Another one is an Aluminum heat sink (with 12.9mm height) that could install in the PS5 SSD slot without the slot's lid.
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Newegg also has 2TB TeamGroup CARDEA A440 NVMe PCIe Gen4 x4 M.2 2280 Internal SSD w/ Graphene & Aluminum Heatsink (TM8FPZ002T0C327) on sale for $115.99. Shipping is free.
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Supports the PCIe Gen4 x4 specification and the latest NVMe standard
Read/write speed up to 7,000/5,500 MB/s.
Includes a 5-year or TBW (Terabytes Written) limited warranty
Please note that this product (CARDEA A440) comes with two heat sinks. One is a Graphene heat sink (with 3.7mm height) that could be fit in the PS5 SSD slot. Another one is an Aluminum heat sink (with 12.9mm height) that could install in the PS5 SSD slot without the slot's lid.
Seller at Amazon - Teamgoup Inc - has a 4.9 rating from over 12,000 reviews.
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I appreciate that you're trying to help, but I think you're a little bit off here. Game load times are about reading and not writing. And furthermore, 7000 MB/s is 7 GB/s; it takes 15-45 seconds to load a level, depending on the game, and you're definitely not loading 100+ GB into your RAM or GPU memory during that time. Your SSD will affect game load times, but given that only 1-2 seconds of that load time are actually coming from the drive, speeding up the drive can only do so much.
See this review[techspot.com] for a good comparison. Scroll down to game load times. Notice that all the SSDs are within a second or two of each other, but the HDD which has ~100 MB/s reads take much longer? Also notice that the NVME drives are clearly faster than the SATA SSDs, which also have their read speeds capped by the SATA interface.
So in summary, it's read performance that matters for load times, but once you get to Gen3 PCIe speeds, you get some really serious diminishing returns. You can spend 2X as much, but you'll load in 15.1 seconds instead of 15.4 seconds. How much is your gaming time worth?
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I personally would go with Samsung. The "write up to 7,000" is not definite for me. If it guaranteed that it's 6,000 or above than i would. And you know what they say, "If you want quality.....". Lol 😂 Besides when you gaming you want to keep up with your team and members you play online with. Having a slow write can drag you. Unless you play a lot of solo games.
In what game are you left behind due to having a slightly slower SSD?
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I personally would go with Samsung. The "write up to 7,000" is not definite for me. If it guaranteed that it's 6,000 or above than i would. And you know what they say, "If you want quality.....". Lol 😂 Besides when you gaming you want to keep up with your team and members you play online with. Having a slow write can drag you. Unless you play a lot of solo games.
With any NVME drive, the write speed has almost nothing to do with your online ability to "keep up with your team".
That would be CPU, RAM and GPU.
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Don't buy Samsung unless you're fine with data loss
I have had many SSDs over the years. While I haven't gone with many off brand ones, the only 2 that have failed are Samsung enterprise drives. One of them loses data with no errors and still reports in good health.
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I want to make a general comment here for people who just want to know if its quality is worth buying because it's not a big known company name. An answer without diving deep into the nuances of various Gen 4 NVMe's.
Yes.
One of the top 3 generally more value focused brands, plus we are at a point on Gen 4 where you basically have to try to cheap out so much you make a bad drive, it's pretty much equally likely to get bad firmware on a well known brand as it is to get a bad drive from a brand like Teamgroup. We see all the components they are using from other companies and they are solid pairings. With NVMe's & RAM it's really just a handful of companies that everyone buys from to put their combinations together. So don't worry it doesn't say Samsung, Western Digital (which is what I own, SN770, & love it), Corsair, etc. Heck, the Kingston NV2 is a dice roll on possibly getting one of the worst Gen 4 drives on the market.
And yes there are still tiers, an extra $30-40 can get you an editors choice tier drive. So that's always your call.
And for the PS5 crowd, having two different cooling options is a nice option.
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I have had many SSDs over the years. While I haven't gone with many off brand ones, the only 2 that have failed are Samsung enterprise drives. One of them loses data with no errors and still reports in good health.
I think the poster was talking about the recent issues with the Samsung 980s, and I think 990s, where they were bricking or severely degrading after writing an arbitrary amount of data (2 TB for one person), which was cause by a firmware issue. There is a fix for the firmware however that fix would need to be applied manually.
I personally would go with Samsung. The "write up to 7,000" is not definite for me. If it guaranteed that it's 6,000 or above than i would. And you know what they say, "If you want quality.....". Lol 😂 Besides when you gaming you want to keep up with your team and members you play online with. Having a slow write can drag you. Unless you play a lot of solo games.
Lol. Feel free to elaborate. What game are you being limited by with even the "slowest" nvme?
Is it worth the savings versus a Samsung 880 for $30 more?
If this is for gaming, then yes. If it's for PS5, then definitely yes. Honestly, if this is for PC gaming or just normal PC use, I would spend even less and get something with PCIe3 like the Intel 670p that has been ~$75 for this capacity a few times recently.
Here's a review[tomshardware.com] from Tom's Hardware. There's such a small difference in real-world performance between low-end PCIe3 drives and high-end PCIe4 drives, so the difference between two faster PCIe4 drives is going to be completely unnoticeable for all but a tiny slice of computer users.
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I personally would go with Samsung. The "write up to 7,000" is not definite for me. If it guaranteed that it's 6,000 or above than i would. And you know what they say, "If you want quality.....". Lol Besides when you gaming you want to keep up with your team and members you play online with. Having a slow write can drag you. Unless you play a lot of solo games.
I appreciate that you're trying to help, but I think you're a little bit off here. Game load times are about reading and not writing. And furthermore, 7000 MB/s is 7 GB/s; it takes 15-45 seconds to load a level, depending on the game, and you're definitely not loading 100+ GB into your RAM or GPU memory during that time. Your SSD will affect game load times, but given that only 1-2 seconds of that load time are actually coming from the drive, speeding up the drive can only do so much.
See this review[techspot.com] for a good comparison. Scroll down to game load times. Notice that all the SSDs are within a second or two of each other, but the HDD which has ~100 MB/s reads take much longer? Also notice that the NVME drives are clearly faster than the SATA SSDs, which also have their read speeds capped by the SATA interface.
So in summary, it's read performance that matters for load times, but once you get to Gen3 PCIe speeds, you get some really serious diminishing returns. You can spend 2X as much, but you'll load in 15.1 seconds instead of 15.4 seconds. How much is your gaming time worth?
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If this is for gaming, then yes. If it's for PS5, then definitely yes. Honestly, if this is for PC gaming or just normal PC use, I would spend even less and get something with PCIe3 like the Intel 670p that has been ~$75 for this capacity a few times recently.
Here's a review[tomshardware.com] from Tom's Hardware. There's such a small difference in real-world performance between low-end PCIe3 drives and high-end PCIe4 drives, so the difference between two faster PCIe4 drives is going to be completely unnoticeable for all but a tiny slice of computer users.
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completely unnoticeable for all but a tiny slice of computer users
.....So 1% of the folks who will see this post, as the other 99% who ware not using this for PS5 purposes will naturally go "...but I'm special"
I want to make a general comment here for people who just want to know if its quality is worth buying because it's not a big known company name. An answer without diving deep into the nuances of various Gen 4 NVMe's.
Yes.
One of the top 3 generally more value focused brands, plus we are at a point on Gen 4 where you basically have to try to cheap out so much you make a bad drive, it's pretty much equally likely to get bad firmware on a well known brand as it is to get a bad drive from a brand like Teamgroup. We see all the components they are using from other companies and they are solid pairings. With NVMe's & RAM it's really just a handful of companies that everyone buys from to put their combinations together. So don't worry it doesn't say Samsung, Western Digital (which is what I own, SN770, & love it), Corsair, etc. Heck, the Kingston NV2 is a dice roll on possibly getting one of the worst Gen 4 drives on the market.
And yes there are still tiers, an extra $30-40 can get you an editors choice tier drive. So that's always your call.
And for the PS5 crowd, having two different cooling options is a nice option.
Well said! A bad NVME is rare period. However with data, is a fail rate of 0.3 v 0.6 worth $30 more? Perhaps. However ,there aren't enough statistics to know which they are yet for these gen 4.
Look at sata 2.5 ssd AFR and popular brands like crucial have higher average fail rates, though minimal still.
If a drive doesn't fail in first few days, it will last for a few years. After year 2-4 is where AFR tend to spike across all models.
In the end, whether be 0.3% chance of even 1%, both are too high to risk losing data you don't want to lose. Backups backups backups folks!
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That would be CPU, RAM and GPU.
See this review [techspot.com] for a good comparison. Scroll down to game load times. Notice that all the SSDs are within a second or two of each other, but the HDD which has ~100 MB/s reads take much longer? Also notice that the NVME drives are clearly faster than the SATA SSDs, which also have their read speeds capped by the SATA interface.
So in summary, it's read performance that matters for load times, but once you get to Gen3 PCIe speeds, you get some really serious diminishing returns. You can spend 2X as much, but you'll load in 15.1 seconds instead of 15.4 seconds. How much is your gaming time worth?
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Yes.
One of the top 3 generally more value focused brands, plus we are at a point on Gen 4 where you basically have to try to cheap out so much you make a bad drive, it's pretty much equally likely to get bad firmware on a well known brand as it is to get a bad drive from a brand like Teamgroup. We see all the components they are using from other companies and they are solid pairings. With NVMe's & RAM it's really just a handful of companies that everyone buys from to put their combinations together. So don't worry it doesn't say Samsung, Western Digital (which is what I own, SN770, & love it), Corsair, etc. Heck, the Kingston NV2 is a dice roll on possibly getting one of the worst Gen 4 drives on the market.
And yes there are still tiers, an extra $30-40 can get you an editors choice tier drive. So that's always your call.
And for the PS5 crowd, having two different cooling options is a nice option.
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Here's a review [tomshardware.com] from Tom's Hardware. There's such a small difference in real-world performance between low-end PCIe3 drives and high-end PCIe4 drives, so the difference between two faster PCIe4 drives is going to be completely unnoticeable for all but a tiny slice of computer users.
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See this review [techspot.com] for a good comparison. Scroll down to game load times. Notice that all the SSDs are within a second or two of each other, but the HDD which has ~100 MB/s reads take much longer? Also notice that the NVME drives are clearly faster than the SATA SSDs, which also have their read speeds capped by the SATA interface.
So in summary, it's read performance that matters for load times, but once you get to Gen3 PCIe speeds, you get some really serious diminishing returns. You can spend 2X as much, but you'll load in 15.1 seconds instead of 15.4 seconds. How much is your gaming time worth?
Here's a review [tomshardware.com] from Tom's Hardware. There's such a small difference in real-world performance between low-end PCIe3 drives and high-end PCIe4 drives, so the difference between two faster PCIe4 drives is going to be completely unnoticeable for all but a tiny slice of computer users.
Yes.
One of the top 3 generally more value focused brands, plus we are at a point on Gen 4 where you basically have to try to cheap out so much you make a bad drive, it's pretty much equally likely to get bad firmware on a well known brand as it is to get a bad drive from a brand like Teamgroup. We see all the components they are using from other companies and they are solid pairings. With NVMe's & RAM it's really just a handful of companies that everyone buys from to put their combinations together. So don't worry it doesn't say Samsung, Western Digital (which is what I own, SN770, & love it), Corsair, etc. Heck, the Kingston NV2 is a dice roll on possibly getting one of the worst Gen 4 drives on the market.
And yes there are still tiers, an extra $30-40 can get you an editors choice tier drive. So that's always your call.
And for the PS5 crowd, having two different cooling options is a nice option.
Look at sata 2.5 ssd AFR and popular brands like crucial have higher average fail rates, though minimal still.
If a drive doesn't fail in first few days, it will last for a few years. After year 2-4 is where AFR tend to spike across all models.
In the end, whether be 0.3% chance of even 1%, both are too high to risk losing data you don't want to lose. Backups backups backups folks!
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I've had a 1tb version of this for over a year in a usb 3.2 external and I've put it to a lot of work. Zero problems.
I've had a 2tb samsung external for 2 months, and it's dead as a doornail.
I've also had nearly zero problems with Western Digital.
Samsung isn't king anymore. They depleted their quality assurance to gain more profits.
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