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05-23-2023 at 10:34 PM.
05-23-2023 at 10:34 PM.
wow 14'in 3060, that is a tiny powerhouse
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05-23-2023 at 10:50 PM.
Quote from SociableCalendar102 :
wow 14'in 3060, that is a tiny powerhouse
That 3060 is only 95W though.
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05-23-2023 at 10:58 PM.
05-23-2023 at 10:58 PM.
Quote from Dr.Wajahat :
That 3060 is only 95W though.

What does that actually mean?
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05-23-2023 at 11:08 PM.
05-23-2023 at 11:08 PM.
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What does that actually mean?

It's not a full power gpu… Think Max-Q.

Companies have to lower the power because the laptop is small and cooling space is limited.

Asus Zephyrus G14 is another, better IMHO, 14" powerhouse. The 2021 version had Ryzen 7/9 and RTX 3060.
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05-23-2023 at 11:17 PM.
05-23-2023 at 11:17 PM.
Quote from ghostfreckle :
It's not a full power gpu… Think Max-Q.

Companies have to lower the power because the laptop is small and cooling space is limited.

Asus Zephyrus G14 is another, better IMHO, 14" powerhouse. The 2021 version had Ryzen 7/9 and RTX 3060.

Sadly, I don't know what a Max-Q is either. 😅
But, I appreciate the explanation, as that makes much more sense! Follow up question, do all "gaming" laptops have these issues, or is it only found in a particular set of sizes?
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05-23-2023 at 11:51 PM.
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Quote from Monkey. :
Sadly, I don't know what a Max-Q is either. 😅
But, I appreciate the explanation, as that makes much more sense! Follow up question, do all "gaming" laptops have these issues, or is it only found in a particular set of sizes?

Most gaming laptops have these issues. Very few don't. A full fledged 3060 uses 170W on a desktop. These laptops rarely get that high in wattage, if ever. There are some that gets above 125w I believe. But obviously this predator is underpowered.

With respect as someone that has had a gaming laptop I don't think I'll ever go down this route again.
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05-24-2023 at 02:06 AM.
I wouldn't like being capped at 16gb of ram on a gaming laptop. Even Asus gives you an upgradable slot on their 14in gaming laptops.
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Quote from Monkey. :
Sadly, I don't know what a Max-Q is either. 😅
But, I appreciate the explanation, as that makes much more sense! Follow up question, do all "gaming" laptops have these issues, or is it only found in a particular set of sizes?

Think of having a car that can go 150 miles per hour, but there is a brick underneath the gas pedal. You can push the the gas pedal down, but it stops a certain distance down and doesn't let you go full speed…

That "certain distance" is the power limit set on gpus in laptops. They vary greatly between laptop brands and laptop sizes.

Unfortunately, as a consumer, it is up to you to search for the actual TGP (total graphics power) of the gpu in at laptop that you're looking at to be sure that you aren't buying a laptop with less power than you want.

Just because you're buying a laptop with an RTX 3060, doesn't mean that you're getting a full power one.

Check this out. https://laptopmedia.com/compariso...t-as-well/

The difference in performance can be huge or not so much, depending on what you're doing, but battery life will be better using less power.
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05-24-2023 at 07:02 AM.
05-24-2023 at 07:02 AM.
Screen: 14 inch, 1920x1200
CPU: i7 12700h
RAM: 16 GB LPDDR5 (soldered)
GPU: Nvidia 3060
Keyboard: Backlit RGB
Webcam: 1080p
Security: Fingerprint scanner
Weight: 3.75 lbs.

Headphone Jack: Yes
Microphone Input: Yes
Number of HDMI Outputs (Total): 1
Number of HDMI 2.1 Outputs: 1
Number of USB Ports (Total): 3
Number of USB 3.2 Type A Ports: 2
Number of Thunderbolt Ports (Total): 1
Number of Thunderbolt 4 Ports: 1

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05-24-2023 at 07:32 AM.
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Quote from bbqboy :
I wouldn't like being capped at 16gb of ram on a gaming laptop. Even Asus gives you an upgradable slot on their 14in gaming laptops.
I believe the 16 is soldered to the board too. And no expansion slots.
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05-24-2023 at 08:58 AM.
05-24-2023 at 08:58 AM.
Nothing makes me click out of a thread quicker than the word soldered in relation to laptops and desktops...Grumpy
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05-24-2023 at 09:39 AM.
05-24-2023 at 09:39 AM.
Quote from IndigoScent3469 :
I believe the 16 is soldered to the board too. And no expansion slots.
That doesn't seem right. IF the 52s is basically the same as the 51s then it has a slot. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=40Nk0-xK3z0
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05-24-2023 at 10:02 AM.
05-24-2023 at 10:02 AM.
Quote from johnny88 :
Most gaming laptops have these issues. Very few don't. A full fledged 3060 uses 170W on a desktop. These laptops rarely get that high in wattage, if ever. There are some that gets above 125w I believe. But obviously this predator is underpowered.

With respect as someone that has had a gaming laptop I don't think I'll ever go down this route again.
Yeah, this one is capped at 180w total:

https://www.acer.com/us-en/predat....QHMAA.001
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05-24-2023 at 10:31 AM.
05-24-2023 at 10:31 AM.
Quote from ghostfreckle :
Think of having a car that can go 150 miles per hour, but there is a brick underneath the gas pedal. You can push the the gas pedal down, but it stops a certain distance down and doesn't let you go full speed…

That "certain distance" is the power limit set on gpus in laptops. They vary greatly between laptop brands and laptop sizes.

Unfortunately, as a consumer, it is up to you to search for the actual TGP (total graphics power) of the gpu in at laptop that you're looking at to be sure that you aren't buying a laptop with less power than you want.

Just because you're buying a laptop with an RTX 3060, doesn't mean that you're getting a full power one.

Check this out. https://laptopmedia.com/compariso...t-as-well/

The difference in performance can be huge or not so much, depending on what you're doing, but battery life will be better using less power.
Don't most of these laptops throttle elsewhere anyways due to heat issues?
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