I feel like the only person left who still prefers toggle light switches.
This statement is completely wrong. Innovelli does outsource their manufacturing and development to third parties, but its definitely not Zooz. I don't believe they are an OEM provider. Also Z-Wave chips are only manufactured by one company, which is part of the reason for Inovelli's price and shortages. Whoever has the most money can put out more switches.
The LED level indicator is nowhere close the same and definitely not the only difference. Feature differences are also reflected in the price. For example, no need for neutral, power consumption, and now 800 series chip.
While I'm not an Inovelli fan boy, I do make sure I educate myself when I talk about something instead of spreading lies and misinformation, that way I don't make a fool of myself.
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I feel like the only person left who still prefers toggle light switches.
I don't think you're alone. Unfortunately most smart switches are Decora style paddle switches. At least with voice assistants and routines, I find that I'm not physically using all my paddle style smart switches manually all that much.
I believe Shelly relays can be used to make any "dumb" toggle switch smart.
I have Lutron Casetas in the house, and I do turn off a couple Pico remotes at the top of my stairs at bedtime - they are side by side in a double gang box, and using two fingers to press each "off" button on the Pico remotes usually leaves one of them (sometimes both) still on - pretty terrible ergonomics on the old style Lutron Caseta Pico remotes and wall switches.
I don't think you're alone. Unfortunately most smart switches are Decora style paddle switches. At least with voice assistants and routines, I find that I'm not physically using all my paddle style smart switches manually all that much.
I believe Shelly relays can be used to make any "dumb" toggle switch smart.
I have Lutron Casetas in the house, and I do turn off a couple Pico remotes at the top of my stairs at bedtime - they are side by side in a double gang box, and using two fingers to press each "off" button on the Pico remotes usually leaves one of them (sometimes both) still on - pretty terrible ergonomics on the old style Lutron Caseta Pico remotes and wall switches.
Yeah, I'm considering Shelly for sure. I have a few Inovelli toggle z waves as well. Not sure you can get them anymore, haven't checked in a while.
That's a shame about the Picos. Lutron is supposed to be the best.
I have a few Inovelli toggle z waves as well. Not sure you can get them anymore, haven't checked in a while.
Innovelli is taking preorders for their z-wave red series switches now.... And they will ship in early June. they're amazing switches. new ones will use the 800 series chip.
Innovelli is taking preorders for their z-wave red series switches now.... And they will ship in early June. they're amazing switches. new ones will use the 800 series chip.
Amazingly expensive you mean... pretty sure Innovelli switches are manufactured by Zooz (one of the largest Z-wave OEMs) Innovelli pays Zooz to make some firmware changes and sometime cosmetic changes, like LED level indicators on the dimmer. While cool, they are not worth 2 to 3x the price IMO. I bought a don of Zooz double switches (these also have LED level indicators) . Thats the only difference.
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Amazingly expensive you mean... pretty sure Innovelli switches are manufactured by Zooz (one of the largest Z-wave OEMs) Innovelli pays Zooz to make some firmware changes and sometime cosmetic changes, like LED level indicators on the dimmer. While cool, they are not worth 2 to 3x the price IMO. I bought a don of Zooz double switches (these also have LED level indicators) . Thats the only difference.
This statement is completely wrong. Innovelli does outsource their manufacturing and development to third parties, but its definitely not Zooz. I don't believe they are an OEM provider. Also Z-Wave chips are only manufactured by one company, which is part of the reason for Inovelli's price and shortages. Whoever has the most money can put out more switches.
The LED level indicator is nowhere close the same and definitely not the only difference. Feature differences are also reflected in the price. For example, no need for neutral, power consumption, and now 800 series chip.
While I'm not an Inovelli fan boy, I do make sure I educate myself when I talk about something instead of spreading lies and misinformation, that way I don't make a fool of myself.
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The LED level indicator is nowhere close the same and definitely not the only difference. Feature differences are also reflected in the price. For example, no need for neutral, power consumption, and now 800 series chip.
While I'm not an Inovelli fan boy, I do make sure I educate myself when I talk about something instead of spreading lies and misinformation, that way I don't make a fool of myself.
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I believe Shelly relays can be used to make any "dumb" toggle switch smart.
I have Lutron Casetas in the house, and I do turn off a couple Pico remotes at the top of my stairs at bedtime - they are side by side in a double gang box, and using two fingers to press each "off" button on the Pico remotes usually leaves one of them (sometimes both) still on - pretty terrible ergonomics on the old style Lutron Caseta Pico remotes and wall switches.
I believe Shelly relays can be used to make any "dumb" toggle switch smart.
I have Lutron Casetas in the house, and I do turn off a couple Pico remotes at the top of my stairs at bedtime - they are side by side in a double gang box, and using two fingers to press each "off" button on the Pico remotes usually leaves one of them (sometimes both) still on - pretty terrible ergonomics on the old style Lutron Caseta Pico remotes and wall switches.
Yeah, I'm considering Shelly for sure. I have a few Inovelli toggle z waves as well. Not sure you can get them anymore, haven't checked in a while.
That's a shame about the Picos. Lutron is supposed to be the best.
Innovelli is taking preorders for their z-wave red series switches now.... And they will ship in early June. they're amazing switches. new ones will use the 800 series chip.
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The LED level indicator is nowhere close the same and definitely not the only difference. Feature differences are also reflected in the price. For example, no need for neutral, power consumption, and now 800 series chip.
While I'm not an Inovelli fan boy, I do make sure I educate myself when I talk about something instead of spreading lies and misinformation, that way I don't make a fool of myself.
100% agree. It used to be much better!