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2023 Tesla Model 3 w/ 3 Months Supercharging + $7500 Federal Tax Credit

(For Qualifying Buyers)

from $37830

$40,240

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Tesla is offering its 2023 Tesla Model 3 starting from $37830. This model now qualifies for the $7500 Federal Tax Credit (more information here and here).

Thanks to community member krispytreat007 for sharing this deal.

Note, price and availability will vary by location and may be limited. Additional fees may apply.

Additionally, this includes 3 months free unlimited Supercharging if ordered and delivered between June 14 and June 30, 2023.

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  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225000 for heads of households
    • $150000 for all other filers
  • The credit is nonrefundable, so you can't get back more on the credit than you owe in taxes. You can't apply any excess credit to future tax years.
  • See the forum thread for deal discussion.
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Tesla is offering its 2023 Tesla Model 3 starting from $37830. This model now qualifies for the $7500 Federal Tax Credit (more information here and here).

Thanks to community member krispytreat007 for sharing this deal.

Note, price and availability will vary by location and may be limited. Additional fees may apply.

Additionally, this includes 3 months free unlimited Supercharging if ordered and delivered between June 14 and June 30, 2023.

Editor's Notes

Written by qwikwit | Staff
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225000 for heads of households
    • $150000 for all other filers
  • The credit is nonrefundable, so you can't get back more on the credit than you owe in taxes. You can't apply any excess credit to future tax years.
  • See the forum thread for deal discussion.
  • Get 1%-5% cash back on deals like this with a cash back credit card. Compare the available cash back credit cards here.

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Eagles89
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You forgot to mention the $1390 destination fee, $425 for wall connector, $230 for mobile charger, $250 non-refundable order fee.
scn312
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Tesla Model 3 RWD starts at $40,240 but is now eligible for the full $7,500 federal tax credit (income limits apply). Previously, it was only eligible for $3,750. This makes the starting price $32,740 after tax credit.

https://www.tesla.com/model3/design

Deal is even sweeter if you live in a state with additional credits:

VT: $26,320
MA: $26,830
PA: $27,330
RI: $27,820
DE: $27,820
NY: $28,320
CA: $28,330
CO: $28,330
CT: $29,030
ME: $29,320

Full tax credit details below, but the following income limits apply:

$300,000 for married couples filing jointly
$225,000 for heads of households
$150,000 for all other filers

https://www.irs.gov/credits-deduc...3-or-after
Knightshade
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NO IT DOES NOT.

Withholding is totally irrelevant to qualifying for the credit.

If you're unclear on this go read a 1040.

The part where you compute tax liability is lines 16 through 24.

THAT is where the $7500 EV credit comes off.

Your withholdings aren't even looked at until after that on line 25+







This is also not correct.

The Child Tax Credit is worth a maximum of $2,000 per qualifying child. Up to $1,600 is refundable for the 2023 tax year.

Refundable credits are computed AFTER non-refundable ones-- so the CTC is only "worth" $400 off your tax burden for these purposes- the $1600 left is refundable.

Thus if you had say $7900 in tax burden and one CTC and one EV credit, your tax burden would go to $0 and you'd get a full refund of the $1600 refundable part of the CTC


Source:
https://www.nerdwallet.com/articl...tax-credit

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nbs85
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Any good options for Auto Loan?
Jun 8, 2023
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bladz1454
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The income limit is complete BS... We were looking at Teslas but being penalized for making too much is absurd. Already in a high tax bracket, why the hell should consumer goods also get hit?
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ggapropros
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Quote from nrg :
How is that even possible?

for someone to get the full cvrp 7.5k, one has to be in the 400% 2022 federal poverty level. https://aspe.hhs.gov/topics/pover...guidelines For someone to be in that, they do not owe any federals taxes because they make under 30k. https://cleanvehiclerebate.org/en...sed-rebate
Fed EV is up to $7500 so that means you have to owe taxes.
also, you need to live in a disadvantage community.
this is for the cvrp assisted grant https://cleanvehiclegrants.org/eligibility/

the Fed ev is a non refundable rebate. It takes your taxes you owe (tax liability is lines 16 through 24) and deduct from there. which brings you down to zero. Now if you withheld taxes for that year, you get that back too.

I spoke to my CPA and there's no way one can get both full 7500 from fed and cvrp. that's bs in your post.

most average ppl that have reg salary jobs 20-30 an hr will have pay about 5-7k in taxes a year would only get pretty close to $7500 and the 2k from cvrp.
Its hard to get the maximum $7500 from federal but not impossible at all

if you have family/relatives/roommates who dont work who live with you (or get minimum wage at a part time job) then its very easy to get most of the federal tax credit

https://cleanvehiclerebate.org/en...sed-rebate

scroll down to "do you qualify?"
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nrg
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Quote from Deal_Breaker2 :
$2400 per year for Tesla insurance seems steep. I'm paying $900 for comprehensive coverage with $500 deductible.
$900 a year? so you have converge for $75 a month on an M3? woah? please provide me with the insurance comp info.
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Knightshade
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Quote from nrg :
How is that even possible?

for someone to get the full cvrp 7.5k, one has to be in the 400% 2022 federal poverty level. https://aspe.hhs.gov/topics/pover...guidelines For someone to be in that, they do not owe any federals taxes because they make under 30k. https://cleanvehiclerebate.org/en...sed-rebate
Fed EV is up to $7500 so that means you have to owe taxes to get the full amount.
also, you need to live in a disadvantage community.
this is for the cvrp assisted grant https://cleanvehiclegrants.org/eligibility/

ppl that make under 30k will use standard deduction $3500 rate.

the Fed ev is a non refundable rebate. It takes your taxes you owe (tax liability is lines 16 through 24) and deduct from there. which brings you down to zero. Now if you withheld taxes for that year, you get that back too.

I spoke to my CPA and there's no way one can get both full 7500 from fed and cvrp. that's bs in your post.

most average ppl that have reg salary jobs 20-30 an hr will have pay about 7k in taxes a year would only get pretty close to $7500 and the 2k from cvrp.

anyone that gets higher salary will get less from the fed ev and the 2k.

It's pretty simple.

Everyone running to get the tesla think it's a flat rebate. wrong!
They're going to get a rude awaking next year when they try to file their taxes.

So first, if the poverty level is 30k then 400% is...120k.

And you'd definitely owe taxes. More than $7500 worth in fact.

You can absolutely get both.

The CVRP one the income limit gets higher the more kids you have.

You can't get the full one both state and fed if you're single, but with 2-3 kids the overlap in income that fits both the state and fed rebates gets, if not large, at least existant.
Last edited by Knightshade June 8, 2023 at 10:26 AM.
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sarcean1
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so much misinformation in this thread, even this page alone.

Its not hard to receive the benefit of the full federal $7,500 credit, which assumedly you should have as a minimum tax liability if you are looking at a brand new Tesla.

As for state specific ones like California, do your research and do not rely on some of these replies for accurate information.
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manku
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Quote from FishKilla :
Once again for the bazillionth time you must be corrected on this misleading information that you post.

The battery warranty is not 8 years with unlimited miles, it is 8 years OR 100K miles, WHICHEVER COMES FIRST

So it is completely possible with a little above average miles per year to exceed the warranty in 5 years and be on the hook for the battery.

Just be honest if Tesa is all you say it is, unless it's not
A little above average? The average is around 14000...or 7 years

20000 miles a year is a ton...I know exactly one person who drives that much. And with more and more people WFH, that 14000 figure is probably going down.

I've leased cars with 10K/12K annually...never been over in over 20 leases. Once I had a whopping 13K after three years....that was a pricey lease!

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missellie
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Quote from fiveoh :
Weak. Porsche gang all the way.
Love to have the 911 GT3 Touring. What's your thoughts on the hydrogen ICE engine & synthetic fuel, top speed 162? Our government is funding it so we'll see what happens.
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ggapropros
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Quote from guest888 :
Your missing the point. It's a work around for those that want the VW and don't qualify for the tax rebate. There are a lot of buyers that lease and then buyout the next month and pocket the $7500 tax credit. You don't have to wait for tax time if you qualify or you get it because you don't have $7500 tax liability at the end of the year. Lots of people could afford the Tesla if they could get that discount.
Damn i was missing the point, i just read about that in the hyundai ioniq 5 thread.

That is a crazy loophole for that to have no income limit. Tesla must know about it, perhaps their contract lawyers are re-writing the lease agreement to allow it to have buyout again. I dont know why they took buyouts away in the first place so its hard to say what happened there
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Knightshade
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Quote from ggapropros :
Damn i was missing the point, i just read about that in the hyundai ioniq 5 thread.

That is a crazy loophole for that to have no income limit. Tesla must know about it, perhaps their contract lawyers are re-writing the lease agreement to allow it to have buyout again. I dont know why they took buyouts away in the first place so its hard to say what happened there
Tesla never allowed buyouts on the 3 or Y leases.

They did for a while on S/X, but those don't qualify for the credits anyway.

Tesla has no motivation to do the lease loophole so long as they've got plenty of buyers, which they still do.... leasing requires financing work from the car maker and has never been a major part of the business.
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Quasimotorias
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Anyone successfully put an after market sun roof in one of these. One thing holding me back is that I'll severely miss my panoramic sun roof in my Hyundai Sonata... It's awesome. I get that Tesla has a permanent glass roof but I'd definitely miss the actual sun roof.
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FishKilla
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Quote from manku :
A little above average? The average is around 14000...or 7 years

20000 miles a year is a ton...I know exactly one person who drives that much. And with more and more people WFH, that 14000 figure is probably going down.

I've leased cars with 10K/12K annually...never been over in over 20 leases. Once I had a whopping 13K after three years....that was a pricey lease!
If average is 15K, or even 14K like you said, wouldn't it make sense that a lot of people would drive more than that to make it the average?

Maybe you don't, but it is a big country and not everyone is in SoCal. (That's where you are, right?)
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Quote from Knightshade :
So first, if the poverty level is 30k then 400% is...120k.

And you'd definitely owe taxes. More than $7500 worth in fact.

You can absolutely get both.

The CVRP one the income limit gets higher the more kids you have.

You can't get the full one both state and fed if you're single, but with 2-3 kids the overlap in income that fits both the state and fed rebates gets, if not large, at least existant.
Yes sorry, you're right. Single ppl will not get both max rebate. My original post was written from a perspective of a single person and not a family/dependents. Like you said, with kids you can. https://cleanvehiclegrants.org/eligibility/
Would still need to jump some hurdles. disadvantage community (DAC) and approval letter.
Once you get to that point (which I read takes min of 10 days), you have 90 days to apply that credit to an approved dealership and the car has to be picked up/driven within that 90 day.

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SkillfulCrowd1967
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Quote from abstraxion :
Correct, and that includes amounts you've withheld over the year. Sum up everything you withhold for federal income tax and subtract any refunds you receive, if that number is over 7500 you will get the whole amount back.

What does that have to do with 100% tax
also sales tax cut on MRP or deduct taxation.

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