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2023 Tesla Model 3 w/ 3 Months Supercharging + $7500 Federal Tax Credit

(For Qualifying Buyers)

from $37830

$40,240

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Tesla is offering its 2023 Tesla Model 3 starting from $37830. This model now qualifies for the $7500 Federal Tax Credit (more information here and here).

Thanks to community member krispytreat007 for sharing this deal.

Note, price and availability will vary by location and may be limited. Additional fees may apply.

Additionally, this includes 3 months free unlimited Supercharging if ordered and delivered between June 14 and June 30, 2023.

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  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225000 for heads of households
    • $150000 for all other filers
  • The credit is nonrefundable, so you can't get back more on the credit than you owe in taxes. You can't apply any excess credit to future tax years.
  • See the forum thread for deal discussion.
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Tesla is offering its 2023 Tesla Model 3 starting from $37830. This model now qualifies for the $7500 Federal Tax Credit (more information here and here).

Thanks to community member krispytreat007 for sharing this deal.

Note, price and availability will vary by location and may be limited. Additional fees may apply.

Additionally, this includes 3 months free unlimited Supercharging if ordered and delivered between June 14 and June 30, 2023.

Editor's Notes

Written by qwikwit | Staff
  • To qualify for the federal tax credit, one must not exceed the following adjusted gross income limits:
    • $300000 for married couples filing jointly
    • $225000 for heads of households
    • $150000 for all other filers
  • The credit is nonrefundable, so you can't get back more on the credit than you owe in taxes. You can't apply any excess credit to future tax years.
  • See the forum thread for deal discussion.
  • Get 1%-5% cash back on deals like this with a cash back credit card. Compare the available cash back credit cards here.

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Eagles89
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You forgot to mention the $1390 destination fee, $425 for wall connector, $230 for mobile charger, $250 non-refundable order fee.
scn312
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Tesla Model 3 RWD starts at $40,240 but is now eligible for the full $7,500 federal tax credit (income limits apply). Previously, it was only eligible for $3,750. This makes the starting price $32,740 after tax credit.

https://www.tesla.com/model3/design

Deal is even sweeter if you live in a state with additional credits:

VT: $26,320
MA: $26,830
PA: $27,330
RI: $27,820
DE: $27,820
NY: $28,320
CA: $28,330
CO: $28,330
CT: $29,030
ME: $29,320

Full tax credit details below, but the following income limits apply:

$300,000 for married couples filing jointly
$225,000 for heads of households
$150,000 for all other filers

https://www.irs.gov/credits-deduc...3-or-after
Knightshade
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NO IT DOES NOT.

Withholding is totally irrelevant to qualifying for the credit.

If you're unclear on this go read a 1040.

The part where you compute tax liability is lines 16 through 24.

THAT is where the $7500 EV credit comes off.

Your withholdings aren't even looked at until after that on line 25+







This is also not correct.

The Child Tax Credit is worth a maximum of $2,000 per qualifying child. Up to $1,600 is refundable for the 2023 tax year.

Refundable credits are computed AFTER non-refundable ones-- so the CTC is only "worth" $400 off your tax burden for these purposes- the $1600 left is refundable.

Thus if you had say $7900 in tax burden and one CTC and one EV credit, your tax burden would go to $0 and you'd get a full refund of the $1600 refundable part of the CTC


Source:
https://www.nerdwallet.com/articl...tax-credit

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ONeal
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Wonder if it's worth waiting for new model? Are tax credits going to still exist?
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Knightshade
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Quote from Martin_Germany :
No. Tesla is saying that maybe the $7500 will be less after this calendar year. It should not be.
Why do you say that?

The cars currently using non-US batteries are very likely to only qualify for half the rebate as of Jan 1.



Quote from Martin_Germany :
I've seen things like this throughout the years. initially, back in February, or March, they were advertising that the credit might go away completely
No, you did not see that- they never claimed it would go away entirely.

They said it might be cut in half- due to the battery requirement.

Thanks to the IRS dragging its feet in issuing the new rules they were able to get it to apply for the rest of this year in full on the non-US battery models- but that won't necessarily be the case next year.




Quote from Martin_Germany :
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and instead, it doubled on all of the model threes
This again is wrong. It was $7500 on Jan 1. And it has remained $7500 all year (there was a brief period where it seemed like it would have dropped to $3750 for ONLY the RWD model 3... but as I say they found a way around that- that they're unlikely to be able to repeat next year)






Quote from Martin_Germany :
They don't do full refreshes. A few slight changes, but they've never done complete changes. 2019 to 2023. Have plenty of changes, but they change their cars every few months. You're not going to get a completely different model with any of their models.

S has been through at least 3 refreshes now, including a couple of fairly significant ones. Only 2 for the X (again at least one being quite significant).

3, being a younger vehicle than either, is about to do its first major refresh.



Quote from ONeal :
Wonder if it's worth waiting for new model? Are tax credits going to still exist?

The tax credits, barring congress passing new laws, are valid through at least 2032.

Now if they will apply in full to all versions of the refreshed 3 is a different question.

Most likely they will remain $7500 for the Performance model using batteries from Nevada... but there's a reasonable chance they drop to $3750 for the LR and RWD models using chinese cells. (alternatively they might switch the LR back to Nevada cells as it used to used some time ago, but that's unlikely to happen on the RWD)
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Quote from Knightshade :
because the requirements for non-foreign-sources parts and batteries increases on Jan 1, and it's likely that at least the RWD Model 3 will no longer qualify since its batteries come from China.

It's possible the LR AWD Model 3 also won't.

If that's the case then the credit would drop to $3750 for those on Jan 1.

The Performance Model 3, and all versions of the Y, would likely still qualify for the full $7500 credit since they all use batteries produced in either California, Nevada, or Texas.
Hmm...if that was the case Tesla would be looking at a mass class action law suit for mispresenting I'm sure.
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Quote from BeautifulFeather204 :
Hmm...if that was the case Tesla would be looking at a mass class action law suit for mispresenting I'm sure.

huh?

They're explicitly warning you the tax credit may be reduced after this year for some trims/models--- because it might be.... what do you think they're misrepresenting exactly?
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BeautifulFeather204
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Quote from Knightshade :
huh?

They're explicitly warning you the tax credit may be reduced after this year for some trims/models--- because it might be.... what do you think they're misrepresenting exactly?
they just started stating that because I don't remember seeing that statement when I brought it just a month ago. And I think it's for the purchases after 12/31. And if anything I think this just their marketing to push more sales for the 2nd half of the year.
Last edited by BeautifulFeather204 July 14, 2023 at 09:52 PM.
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Quote from BeautifulFeather204 :
they just started stating that because I don't remember seeing that statement when I brought it just a month ago.
Still not understanding what you think the misrepresentation is?

The statement about next year IS recent-- but since nobody has purchased a car next year yet- what could they possibly have misrepresented to anyone? You and everyone else buying this year get the full $7500 credit. (assuming you meet all the other applies-to-everyone criteria like income limits, having enough tax burden, etc)


Quote from BeautifulFeather204 :
And I think it's for the purchases after 12/31.
Yes- that's literally what they are telling you.

If you wait until after 12/31 to buy you MAY not get the full tax credit-- because they may not qualify for the second half of it on some trims of the Model 3 due to the battery requirements that increase after 12/31.

And as I mentioned- based on the batteries currently in use in US sold Teslas the RWD Model 3 and the LR non-P Model 3 are the most likely to be impacted. The P shouldn't change, nor should any variant of the Y.





Quote from BeautifulFeather204 :
And if anything I think this just their marketing to push more sales for the 2nd half of the year.

I mean- you can read the law yourself where it specifically cites raising the battery requirements after 12/31, so not sure why you think Tesla is making this up.
Last edited by Knightshade July 15, 2023 at 07:10 AM.
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What is the best website to monitor deals on Tesla or EV in general?

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IamRambo
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Isn't the model 3 HW4 coming out later this year as well as the refresh on the 3 ?
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WiseTerrier243
Jul 18, 2023
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This post is for NJ PPL

Does the incentives are applicable for new inventory model 3 which has price tag of 38350$ car?
If I apply for rebate for state after how many days it gets credited ?
I was living in New Jersey until last month, now I moved to Boston because of my job and my pay roll is running in Boston but my license is still in New Jersey, am I still getting rebate ?


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Gethype
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LTTP: Does the monthly insurance justify the cost of owning this EV? West coast seems to be super high monthly, about $200/month. I'd like to own one, but damn...
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Quote from Gethype :
LTTP: Does the monthly insurance justify the cost of owning this EV?

Insurance is hugely YMMV down to your zip+4 code and credit rating- trying to compare to other people in other situations is pretty useless.

That said, my Tesla costs about the same to insure as the Lexus IS350 it replaced (far less than the amount you cite, but again different situation/location than you so no point in comparing directly to you)- so there was no real cost difference there at all for me. Try several insurance companies to get quotes though (including Tesla if they offer it in your state- which they do in 2 out of 3 "west coast" states)
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kipper99
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Quote from Knightshade :
Insurance is hugely YMMV down to your zip+4 code and credit rating- trying to compare to other people in other situations is pretty useless.

That said, my Tesla costs about the same to insure as the Lexus IS350 it replaced (far less than the amount you cite, but again different situation/location than you so no point in comparing directly to you)- so there was no real cost difference there at all for me. Try several insurance companies to get quotes though (including Tesla if they offer it in your state- which they do in 2 out of 3 "west coast" states)
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GlobWarmNoGood
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Wii they allow the payment to be made after inspecting the car on the day of the delivery? Any experience?
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Knightshade
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Quote from GlobWarmNoGood :
Wii they allow the payment to be made after inspecting the car on the day of the delivery? Any experience?

Assuming you live in a state it's legal to buy a new Tesla you don't have to pay them until you're taking possession of the car (after you inspect it).

There's some states where the state does not allow Tesla to sell directly however, so you have to pay in advance and "buy" it in another state (all done online), then they can ship it to you in your state for you to pick up the car you already own (Texas is one such state).
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Quote from Knightshade :
Assuming you live in a state it's legal to buy a new Tesla you don't have to pay them until you're taking possession of the car (after you inspect it).

There's some states where the state does not allow Tesla to sell directly however, so you have to pay in advance and "buy" it in another state (all done online), then they can ship it to you in your state for you to pick up the car you already own (Texas is one such state).
Thanks. Have to find if NJ is the allowed to buy in state.

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