Beginning in 2024, everyone under the income limit qualifies for the full $7,500 rebate. It does not matter if you owe less than that in taxes, and you can get it at the time of purchase instead of waiting for next year's taxes.
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frontpageDC13 posted Jun 03, 2023 09:12 PM
2023 Chevrolet Bolt EV 1LT + $7500 Tax Credit + In-Home Charger Install
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edit: For clarification from the wiki: "The tax credit is not refundable, which means one must have federal tax due to take advantage of it. If the tax due is less than the credit amount, one can only claim the credit up to the amount of the tax due."
So lower income people will not get a $7500 refund, it depends on your liability. i.e. A SDer responded about a student being angry in a previous thread that they only got $500 back and not $7500.
Virtually all of the ICE vehicle can be recycled. Generally the only items not recyclable per se will be interior trim - it's mixed plastic and rubber. Engine? steel or aluminum. Gearcases? Steel or aluminum. Body, frame, etc, steel or aluminum. In fact, about 86% of a car can be recycled [recyclenation.com].
Meanwhile your EV will still have a fully and readily recyclable frame and body, just like the ICE. The motor will generally be recyclable. The battery? Not really. Generally batteries and battery packs are not really designed for recycling. Most are just thousands of individual cylindrical cells, that themselves are spiral wound multilayer structures. There's no easy way to separate the materials here. An ICE, you literally rip out the engine with heavy equipment and include it in with any other steel or aluminum - the process is astonishingly easy and quick [youtube.com] with heavy equipment.
Meanwhile, the batteries are generally just shredded [ucsusa.org]. The resulting material is called "black mass" and is placed into a bath of caustic chemicals to leech out the *important* elements. In certain cases, that black mass is first incinerated to burn off plastic and epoxies. Yeah that sounds super efficient and environmental to me.
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Range is pretty great, the car is surprisingly spacious inside (no problem fitting a few car seats in), and Chevy's free installation of the receptacle means I just plug in the car overnight and have a full battery by morning. Coming from Japanese cars, and hating every Chevy rental I've ever driven, I didn't expect to love the car as much as I do. The instant torque and smooth ride really make it a fun vehicle to drive.
Not sure what else I will need. Taking advice.
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Not sure what else I will need. Taking advice.
If the prius is paid off, you will spend many, many years trying to get cost parity with a new car if youre going strictly on the value proposition. Around me, it would take 200k miles of driving, comparing the prius to a econo EV, $3.39 a gallon, 21 cents/kwh, 4mi/kwh, 50mpg.
Now, if youre getting the Bolt for the other perks (acceleration, general new-ness of the design, carpool lane access, etc.), then it is probably worth it. Those are intangibles that only you can decide on. The gen3 prius has issues at around our mileage (EGR valve clogging up is the main one, but also tranny fluid, both inverter and engine coolant, etc.) that may change the calculus as well.
Both cars are wonderful in stop-and-go since theres no cost to idle. In the cold weather, the Bolt will use up substantial energy to keep warm since it lacks a heat pump, while the Prius will burn gas.
If I were coming from a conventional ICE car to the Bolt of similar equipped spec, it would be a no brainer.
If I were coming from no car at all to the Bolt (like a student), I would have bought the car months ago. It is a no-brainer.
If I drove long distance in any capacity, I would run the hell away from the Bolt...its CCS charging speed barely breaks 50kw (like my Niro, which is barely any better). Charging speed notwithstanding, I dont have confidence in Electrify America's charger reliability.
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https://www.irs.gov/credits-deduc...cle-credit
All the rules are there- and yes one of them is you buy it from a dealer....presumably both to insure all the paperwork is correct and to avoid everyone in the country "buying" a used EV from a friend
Who knows, could be good deals to be had later. Don't see anybody driving these much.
Who knows, could be good deals to be had later. Don't see anybody driving these much.
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also the EPA mileage estimates on any EV are a outright lie/misleading. It's under perfect conditions, no wind no hills perfect speed etc. even on a tesla the 273 mile range model 3 gets more like 235 in perfect conditions on youtube, much worse in the cold. a thats a tesla the best in the business. EPA just allows them to lie since EV's are "politically correct". Subtract at least 20% off the top, and much more if it gets cold, you are using climate control, the battery is no longer brand new, etc.
If you read about some of the terrible, backwards tech that goes in non tesla EV's, I'd be wary. They are just slapping garbage out to get something in the market currently, and GM might be the very worst automaker going for quality control. The new hummer is using terrible cast iron battery parts and weighs 9000 pounds for example, the battery in the new hummer alone weighs more than an entire ice car.
When the battery dies on this in 8 years it's done. It will cost 2X more than the car to get a new one, if you even can since they wont make them anymore.
https://youtu.be/bESrHA6LqUw
Here's a guy doing a range test in a Tesla 3 at highway speeds (70mph). 264 miles.
The deal is solid, I'm loving mine.
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https://youtu.be/bESrHA6LqUw
Here's a guy doing a range test in a Tesla 3 at highway speeds (70mph). 264 miles.
The deal is solid, I'm loving mine.
Bolt EUV is a slick deal for a nice commuter car. $34K OTD with free electrician work + $10K in rebates. Trade the car in 3-4 years for break even. It's a no brainer.
I have no need for a Tesla Model 3 so I'll save the 20%.
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