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Truth. This thing is like -9db at 25Hz, forget about 20Hz where it's like -35db. Oddly, you have to locate 3rd party reviews to even find the frequency response, which is really unusual for a speaker.
My SVS subs with Soundpath isolation feet create lots of "vibrations" but it's not because they lack "force-canceling woofers," it's because they actually create significant sound pressure in my space.
Just know what you're getting into - This is better than a typical soundbar bass module, but a far cry from SVS, HSU, Rythmic, Monolith, PSA, etc.. If you're ok with extra boominess in the 40-45Hz range (they deliberately added a bump to the Gen 3, I'm sure based on "focus group" results), and value the floorspace over flat response, this thing should work just fine for you, even if it is overpriced.
If you are looking for "high fidelity" Sonos is not the answer with or without the sub. If you are looking to create a "home theater" environment with your Sonos system, the sub is essential. Top Gun Maverick is amazing at home with the sub.
Truth. This thing is like -9db at 25Hz, forget about 20Hz where it's like -35db. Oddly, you have to locate 3rd party reviews to even find the frequency response, which is really unusual for a speaker.
My SVS subs with Soundpath isolation feet create lots of "vibrations" but it's not because they lack "force-canceling woofers," it's because they actually create significant sound pressure in my space.
Just know what you're getting into - This is better than a typical soundbar bass module, but a far cry from SVS, HSU, Rythmic, Monolith, PSA, etc.. If you're ok with extra boominess in the 40-45Hz range (they deliberately added a bump to the Gen 3, I'm sure based on "focus group" results), and value the floorspace over flat response, this thing should work just fine for you, even if it is overpriced.
Agree i unfortunately had to downsize my system. I went from a 5.1.2 goldenear setup with an HSU 15 inch sub. It sounded great yes, do I miss it yess! But I had to give up the theater room due to making it a home office with baby number two on the way. I switched to Sonos arc/sub/ones and feel that it is a great bargain. It looks so clean without any wires anywhere (given you know how to hide them properly). I am impressed with the surround capabilities and even my wife says damn this sounds good. Is it a dedicated theater- no. But it does make movies enjoyable, especially if you can add a second sub. The biggest upside is that my wife can use it without any issues vs the theater setup that definitely had its learning curve
Agree i unfortunately had to downsize my system. I went from a 5.1.2 goldenear setup with an HSU 15 inch sub. It sounded great yes, do I miss it yess! But I had to give up the theater room due to making it a home office with baby number two on the way. I switched to Sonos arc/sub/ones and feel that it is a great bargain. It looks so clean without any wires anywhere (given you know how to hide them properly). I am impressed with the surround capabilities and even my wife says damn this sounds good. Is it a dedicated theater- no. But it does make movies enjoyable, especially if you can add a second sub. The biggest upside is that my wife can use it without any issues vs the theater setup that definitely had its learning curve
Curious, would you say Sonos is better for movies or music?
I'm no audiophile but I can say without the sub the Sonos system (arc + surrounds) made me regret spending the money. With the sub it's great and enough time has passed by that j don't care as much about the money. I still wouldn't recommend it to anyone as the first option based on the price. I might get this second sub but I already know it's overkill for my space.
PIcked this up for the living room to go with existing beam and play1s (as other say, of course there are better value solutions for actual home theater situations, but for low-profile spots like the living room... sonos is extremely convenient with very high acceptance factor ). Bought from best buy on Friday for 630 - they price matched and refunded online without issue.
Curious, would you say Sonos is better for movies or music?
I would say for my use I prefer it for movies/tv. Music sounds good but we have multiple Alexa devices around the house that we tend to use for music 95% of the time. Sonos sounds way better but the Alexa's are just there already
I'm no audiophile but I can say without the sub the Sonos system (arc + surrounds) made me regret spending the money. With the sub it's great and enough time has passed by that j don't care as much about the money. I still wouldn't recommend it to anyone as the first option based on the price. I might get this second sub but I already know it's overkill for my space.
its not your fault that happened. Sonos is a marketing machine, and the astroturfing on the internet is beyond real. Their main product they sell is marketing. The second is software. The third is speakers.
Any posting you visit, they say the Arc is all you ever need. No one ever mentions that a sub is REQUIRED to make it sound any level of decent.
$800 is not the entry level price for Sonos home theater. It's $1500. Ar around $1000, you can get full surround soundbar setups from competing manufacturers that sound incredible.
oh, your brain is working perfectly fine and you should be relieved lol
can't believe there are people out here comparing the two. One if from a legendary sub producer and the other is an overpriced sub that's required to make their regular system sound decent.
i'm convinced most people that have heard sonos have not heard anything else. you can argue that their software is better all you want, but you can't argue what a speaker's primary purpose is.
Is the Sonos Sub a good deal for MSRP? Of course there are mass produced subs from the likes of SVS or Monoprice that will beat it for performance per dollar.
For the __physical size_ and the lifestyle factor of the Sonos eco system, it is one of the best compact subs I have ever heard. Performance per cubic inch destroys pretty much everything out of the water.
I still wouldn't pay $800 MSRP for one, but the $500-600 mark it starts making sense. Again, only if you need a "lifestyle" system.
its not your fault that happened. Sonos is a marketing machine, and the astroturfing on the internet is beyond real. Their main product they sell is marketing. The second is software. The third is speakers.
Any posting you visit, they say the Arc is all you ever need. No one ever mentions that a sub is REQUIRED to make it sound any level of decent.
$800 is not the entry level price for Sonos home theater. It's $1500. Ar around $1000, you can get full surround soundbar setups from competing manufacturers that sound incredible.
I don't think Sonos even has a Marketing team. I mean, there is 1 opening for an E-Commerce Campaign Manager but I never see or read about their product unless I'm looking for it. Perhaps I'm not in their target demographic according to the affluency meter?
wish the Sub Mini would go on sale. I have the Gen3 in my living room and its amazing but to much for my second setup with a Beam in the Master Bedroom.
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My SVS subs with Soundpath isolation feet create lots of "vibrations" but it's not because they lack "force-canceling woofers," it's because they actually create significant sound pressure in my space.
Just know what you're getting into - This is better than a typical soundbar bass module, but a far cry from SVS, HSU, Rythmic, Monolith, PSA, etc.. If you're ok with extra boominess in the 40-45Hz range (they deliberately added a bump to the Gen 3, I'm sure based on "focus group" results), and value the floorspace over flat response, this thing should work just fine for you, even if it is overpriced.
My SVS subs with Soundpath isolation feet create lots of "vibrations" but it's not because they lack "force-canceling woofers," it's because they actually create significant sound pressure in my space.
Just know what you're getting into - This is better than a typical soundbar bass module, but a far cry from SVS, HSU, Rythmic, Monolith, PSA, etc.. If you're ok with extra boominess in the 40-45Hz range (they deliberately added a bump to the Gen 3, I'm sure based on "focus group" results), and value the floorspace over flat response, this thing should work just fine for you, even if it is overpriced.
Agree i unfortunately had to downsize my system. I went from a 5.1.2 goldenear setup with an HSU 15 inch sub. It sounded great yes, do I miss it yess! But I had to give up the theater room due to making it a home office with baby number two on the way. I switched to Sonos arc/sub/ones and feel that it is a great bargain. It looks so clean without any wires anywhere (given you know how to hide them properly). I am impressed with the surround capabilities and even my wife says damn this sounds good. Is it a dedicated theater- no. But it does make movies enjoyable, especially if you can add a second sub. The biggest upside is that my wife can use it without any issues vs the theater setup that definitely had its learning curve
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I would say for my use I prefer it for movies/tv. Music sounds good but we have multiple Alexa devices around the house that we tend to use for music 95% of the time. Sonos sounds way better but the Alexa's are just there already
Funny! 🤣🤣🤣
Any posting you visit, they say the Arc is all you ever need. No one ever mentions that a sub is REQUIRED to make it sound any level of decent.
$800 is not the entry level price for Sonos home theater. It's $1500. Ar around $1000, you can get full surround soundbar setups from competing manufacturers that sound incredible.
can't believe there are people out here comparing the two. One if from a legendary sub producer and the other is an overpriced sub that's required to make their regular system sound decent.
i'm convinced most people that have heard sonos have not heard anything else. you can argue that their software is better all you want, but you can't argue what a speaker's primary purpose is.
For the __physical size_ and the lifestyle factor of the Sonos eco system, it is one of the best compact subs I have ever heard. Performance per cubic inch destroys pretty much everything out of the water.
I still wouldn't pay $800 MSRP for one, but the $500-600 mark it starts making sense. Again, only if you need a "lifestyle" system.
Any posting you visit, they say the Arc is all you ever need. No one ever mentions that a sub is REQUIRED to make it sound any level of decent.
$800 is not the entry level price for Sonos home theater. It's $1500. Ar around $1000, you can get full surround soundbar setups from competing manufacturers that sound incredible.
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