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frontpageDC13 posted Jun 08, 2023 12:57 AM
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frontpageDC13 posted Jun 08, 2023 12:57 AM
2024 Volvo EX30 Electric SUV (Releases Q1-Q2 2024)
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Polestar and Volvo could step away from traditional gas car design language. For this car you have a pointless for function long hood. You suffer inside because of that misplaced priority with the unnecessary limitation of back seat legroom and less wheelbase. An MG4 is the car to compare for current design of an ev. Good rear legroom. It's got a 2705mm wheelbase vs. 2650mm for this Volvo. 2 inches right there. 4287mm length vs. 4233mm for the EX30. The difference shows in the back door dimension.
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How do I know? I've owned a model y for three years and travel extensively for work and rent cars. The phantom braking is horrible on teslas and the car gets uncomfortably close to other cars on turns and to sidewalls. Braking/accelerating is also not as smooth and natural as other manufacturers.
Stop drinking the koolaid.
This says Pilot Assist is equivalent to basic Tesla autopilot-- lane keep and active cruise and...that's it.
Also says "There must also be a vehicle within a reasonable distance in front of your car and you must be traveling at a speed of at least nine miles per hour." neither of which are limitations of Teslas system-- which works from 0 mph and with nobody in front of you.
Are there multiple versions of pilot assist and this car will come with a different one that does more?
Teslas EAP in addition to those things will also:
Automatically pass slower traffic (no human intervention needed)
Lane change if commanded with a turn signal (in addition to the item above)
Change lanes to follow your navigation route-- including taking both interchanges from one highway to another AND taking your exit to leave the highway)
EAP also includes basic and smart summon- but those are only situationally useful.... (basic summon for example is a godsend if you have a narrow garage, or if somebody parks too close to your drivers side door- but otherwise doesn't have a ton of uses)
AP is incapable of "hard" acceleration by any reasonable definition of the term compared to what it does with manually flooring the car.
https://twitter.com/wk057/status/...3548781570 [twitter.com]
That's a deep technical dive by an expert on Teslas systems in this area-- it's primarily written to debunk the nonsense "the car just suddenly took off on its own" claims, but among the items he covers it that AP can not be commanded for hard acceleration
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Nobody can sell you gas at X cents per mile either since different vehicles have different efficency.
Generally they bill per kwh and most EVs go 3-4 miles per kwh.
Meaning $25-33 per 300 miles- cheaper than your gas car by 25-50%
Further, they have different rates depending how often you need to charge:
https://www.evgo.com/pricing/
Which plan makes the most sense will depend on several things such as:
How many miles you drive in a month
How likely are you to use that brand of charger, specifically
The actual efficiency of the vehicle including your style of driving it
Now to get back to your question if it makes sense.... assuming your ONLY charging option for the foreseeable future is public stations like EVGo? Maybe.
Do you drive like 200 miles a day? Then probably not- you'll be at the charger daily and that'll suck.
200 miles a week? Might be fine. Especially if the charger is near any decent restaurant or a store you'd normally shop or anything like that.
Do you have other near-stuff-you-do-anyway charging options? Many grocery stores and shopping centers and other places are putting in public chargers too, they're usually slower, but free.
Other consideration is non-Tesla chargers tend to be out of order significantly more often- so you might want to check on plugshare as it has reviews of chargers to see how reliable the ones in your area tend to be... (and if you have any Tesla supercharger convenient to you you might want to very very seriously consider the RWD Model 3 instead- as a purchase it'd be cheaper than this thing with a much better charging network)
And are you likely to be stuck in the same apartment with no option to charge at home for years- or might you be moving in a year and could go someplace with home charging available?
Anyway as you can see it's very situational.
There's plenty of apartment dwellers whose combination of answers to the above would make an EV a no go right now. There's others for whom it'd be perfectly fine.
But you need to think about all of the above and see if/what makes sense for your specific answers to those things.
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the cylindrical used in the Y and the remaining 3 trims are even better
This is why Tesla insurance is so high!
https://www.businessins
But all BEVs qualify for a $7500 federal tax credit for the leasing company.... (leasing avoids all the restrictions on the purchase credit like battery sourcing and income limits)
In some cases the leasing company will pass some or all of that to the person signing the lease- in some they won't.
Given it's made in China, not Europe, I doubt it.
https://www.scrapehero.com/locati...Volvo-USA/ [scrapehero.com]
This claims 282 Volvo dealerships in the US, at least 1 in most states.
Unclear if they'll have the same issue some other legacy auto did in having relatively few techs actually trained to work on EVs, but since Volvo claims they're going 100% EV by 2030 one would hope they've been doing some significant training on it.
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