Costco Wholesale has
Philips 800 Series Fully Automatic Espresso Machine w/ Milk Frother (EP0820/04) on sale for
$319.99 valid for
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About the Product- Adjustable 12-Step Grinder Levels
- Intuitive Touch Display
- 100% Pure Ceramic Grinder
- Adjustable Aroma Strength/Quantity
- Classic Milk Frother Attachment
- Fully Removable Brew Group/Easy Cleaning
- Up to 5,000 Cups w/o Descaling
- Automatic Descaling
- AquaClean Filter Compatibility
- Dishwasher Safe/Parts
Warranty- Includes a 1-year manufacturer warranty + Costco Concierge Services w/ purchase
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This unit doesn't have the milk reservoir, so it's easier cleanup. The LatteGo has a milk container that is dishwasher safe. On my LatteGo I only use the milk reservoir a few times a year when we have company over. It's all americanos and espresso shots for my wife and I.
The unit for sale is an absolute strong recommendation at this price if you're looking for an easy to use super automatic and have minimal use case for milk based beverages. Dump decent beans and water in, plug it in, and you get solid coffee.
If I pore through images and product descriptions on various sites, I think the main differences between the three are:
-all three are AquaClean compatible, but only the 2200 actually includes the AquaClean filter. The 800 and 1200 don't show it installed in the water tank in the 3/4 view, and some sites say it is sold separately (about $30 on Amazon).
-the 800 has more black trim than chrome trim, namely the drip tray grille and around where the coffee comes out. The 2200 also has additional chrome bezel around the touch display. I suspect the materials might be more plasticky than metal-ly for the black trim vs chrome bits...
I suspect the innards, esp the brew group, ceramic grinder, etc, are essentially the same from the 800 all the way up to the 5400, a lot of the internal replacement parts are the same across the lineup. Mainly a matter of drink selection options and customization of settings....
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Did anyone try putting in ground espresso beans instead of whole beans? If so, how fine/coarse are they. I put some which weren't that fine and it seemed like the machine chocked and nothing came out.
Did anyone try putting in ground espresso beans instead of whole beans? If so, how fine/coarse are they. I put some which weren't that fine and it seemed like the machine chocked and nothing came out.
I set grind level to 2 (default 6) ignoring request in the manual to wait for a month, will see how it goes. ,
Flavored: I'm sure it's frowned upon because you're going to taint the flavor of the next many cups, but there's a specific flavor that is consumed in my house more than anything else --to the point that if other coffee had hints of the flavor, there wouldn't be any complaint.
Decaf: seems to drip and pour over more slowly than regular beans so I don't know if that's a problem.
I wonder if anyone has actually done it. I'm sorry if this offends anyone! Thanks.
Grinder to 12
Strength to 1
It gave the least acidic and sour tasting coffee so far. Def drinkable
Grinder to 12
Strength to 1
It gave the least acidic and sour tasting coffee so far. Def drinkable
Just curious, what beans are everyone using? Very important info!
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I set grind level to 2 (default 6) ignoring request in the manual to wait for a month, will see how it goes. ,
Pre-heat cup in microvawe (1 oz water, 15 sec)
Grind level to 2.
Water temp to 1 (service menu)
Making espresso x2 flavor 3
Amount: 2 for americano, 1 for espresso
Add hot water to double the amount for Americano
Beans: gray bags from Costco I been using for ages now.
Also pulled the internals and moved yellow level back and forth dozen or so times until is loosened a bit and was reliably getting into end positions..
Pucks are well formed now but grindings are not as fine as my $20 Cuisinart makes.
PS I think I had too much caffeine for today.
PPS not a coffee snob but know well what good espresso is.
The aim of this function is to automatically regulate the average dose of ground coffee (SELF-LEARNING); this takes place with an algorithm based on three pieces of data that the machine receives via the card:
1. Number of coffee grinder pulses during the grinding cycle.
2. Max. average value of the power consumed by the gear motor during the coffee brewing cycle.
3. Aroma selected by the user.
The algorithm compares the maximum average value of the power consumed by the gear motor with the value listed in the table for the selected aroma, in order to calculate the new grinding pulse value for the next coffee produced. If the power consumption value is less than the minimum current value, the grinding pulses will
be increased by 2.
If the power consumption value is greater than the maximum current value, the grinding pulses will be decreased by 4.
If the power consumption value falls within the "over-torque" interval, the product will be dispensed and the grinding pulses will be decreased by 10.
If the power consumption value falls within the "abort cycle" interval, the dreg will be expelled and the grinding pulses will be decreased by 10.
If the "pre-ground" flavour is selected by the user, no modification will be made.
When the type or brand of coffee is changed, there may bevariations in the size of the beans and their stickiness or roasting level. This leads to variationsin power consumption (mA), with resulting excessive or insuffi cient doses (until the necessaryadjustments have been made to compensate for this change).
This guarantees that, regardless of the coffee type used, the grinding level setting and the wear on the grinders, the ground coffee dose always remains constant
Also I suspect that increasing the size of grinds (someone in this topic suggested going to grind level 12) will likely increase amount of grinds produced temporarily bypassing self-learning cycle.
Edit: Looks like this is service manual for this machine: https://www.manualslib.
A stovetop coffee maker + a oxo burr grinder beat it hands down for flavor with the same beans. And its a way cheaper setup.
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I did a total of 10 shots to dial it in. The default settings resulted in 0 crema and the grind was way too big.
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