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expiredintence01 posted Jun 15, 2023 7:46 PM

Costco Members: Philips 800 Series Fully Automatic Espresso Machine w/ Milk Frother

$320

$400

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Costco Wholesale has Philips 800 Series Fully Automatic Espresso Machine w/ Milk Frother (EP0820/04) on sale for $319.99 valid for Costco Members only. Shipping is $4.99.

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Note, must login to your Costco account w/ an active membership to purchase

About the Product
  • Adjustable 12-Step Grinder Levels
  • Intuitive Touch Display
  • 100% Pure Ceramic Grinder
  • Adjustable Aroma Strength/Quantity
  • Classic Milk Frother Attachment
  • Fully Removable Brew Group/Easy Cleaning
  • Up to 5,000 Cups w/o Descaling
  • Automatic Descaling
  • AquaClean Filter Compatibility
  • Dishwasher Safe/Parts
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  • Includes a 1-year manufacturer warranty + Costco Concierge Services w/ purchase

Editor's Notes

Written by Discombobulated | Staff
  • This product offers $80 Off or 20% Overall Savings from the normally $399.99 online price
  • Enjoy the delicious taste and aroma of coffee from fresh beans, at the perfect temperature, with this Philips 800 Series Fully Automatic Espresso intelligent brewing system. The classic milk frother allows you to create a silky smooth cappuccino or latte macchiato with ease
  • Limit of 5 per member
  • Offer valid through June 25, 2023 or while promotional offer/supplies last
Additional Notes
  • If you don't have a Costco Warehouse Membership, you can sign-up here
  • Please refer to the forum thread for additional details - Discombobulated

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Written by intence01
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Costco Wholesale has Philips 800 Series Fully Automatic Espresso Machine w/ Milk Frother (EP0820/04) on sale for $319.99 valid for Costco Members only. Shipping is $4.99.

Thanks to community member intence01 for finding this deal

Note, must login to your Costco account w/ an active membership to purchase

About the Product
  • Adjustable 12-Step Grinder Levels
  • Intuitive Touch Display
  • 100% Pure Ceramic Grinder
  • Adjustable Aroma Strength/Quantity
  • Classic Milk Frother Attachment
  • Fully Removable Brew Group/Easy Cleaning
  • Up to 5,000 Cups w/o Descaling
  • Automatic Descaling
  • AquaClean Filter Compatibility
  • Dishwasher Safe/Parts
Warranty
  • Includes a 1-year manufacturer warranty + Costco Concierge Services w/ purchase

Editor's Notes

Written by Discombobulated | Staff
  • This product offers $80 Off or 20% Overall Savings from the normally $399.99 online price
  • Enjoy the delicious taste and aroma of coffee from fresh beans, at the perfect temperature, with this Philips 800 Series Fully Automatic Espresso intelligent brewing system. The classic milk frother allows you to create a silky smooth cappuccino or latte macchiato with ease
  • Limit of 5 per member
  • Offer valid through June 25, 2023 or while promotional offer/supplies last
Additional Notes
  • If you don't have a Costco Warehouse Membership, you can sign-up here
  • Please refer to the forum thread for additional details - Discombobulated

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Jun 24, 2023 5:40 AM
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CreonJun 24, 2023 5:40 AM
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Got mine too. Same issues others reported above.

Did anyone try putting in ground espresso beans instead of whole beans? If so, how fine/coarse are they. I put some which weren't that fine and it seemed like the machine chocked and nothing came out.
Jun 24, 2023 1:04 PM
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KachurJun 24, 2023 1:04 PM
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Quote from Creon :
Got mine too. Same issues others reported above.

Did anyone try putting in ground espresso beans instead of whole beans? If so, how fine/coarse are they. I put some which weren't that fine and it seemed like the machine chocked and nothing came out.
Guess you could try with the coarsest pre-grind but that kinda defeats the purpose.
I set grind level to 2 (default 6) ignoring request in the manual to wait for a month, will see how it goes. ,
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Jun 24, 2023 2:13 PM
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walletNgromice
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Jun 24, 2023 2:13 PM
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Has anyone tried this machine or a similar automatic with flavored beans and/or "decaf" beans?

Flavored: I'm sure it's frowned upon because you're going to taint the flavor of the next many cups, but there's a specific flavor that is consumed in my house more than anything else --to the point that if other coffee had hints of the flavor, there wouldn't be any complaint.

Decaf: seems to drip and pour over more slowly than regular beans so I don't know if that's a problem.

I wonder if anyone has actually done it. I'm sorry if this offends anyone! Thanks.
Jun 24, 2023 2:23 PM
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amir_pradovxJun 24, 2023 2:23 PM
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I keep brewing more and more but the results are lackluster. I'll trying for a few more weeks if it is not going to improve, I'll return and go for De longhi
Jun 24, 2023 2:24 PM
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amir_pradovxJun 24, 2023 2:24 PM
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The crema is so weak and will vanish! My semi auto Brim had far far better crema and coffee.
Jun 24, 2023 2:38 PM
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amir_pradovxJun 24, 2023 2:38 PM
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I keep try and error with it since morning and brewed more than 20 shots. I adjusted the grinder to 12 (manual says dont do it until 150 shots but idgaf) and set the strength to the lowest level, results got better and reached to passable! I suggest you guys try too.

Grinder to 12
Strength to 1

It gave the least acidic and sour tasting coffee so far. Def drinkable
Jun 24, 2023 7:32 PM
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cameronfieldJun 24, 2023 7:32 PM
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Quote from amir_pradovx :
I keep try and error with it since morning and brewed more than 20 shots. I adjusted the grinder to 12 (manual says dont do it until 150 shots but idgaf) and set the strength to the lowest level, results got better and reached to passable! I suggest you guys try too.

Grinder to 12
Strength to 1

It gave the least acidic and sour tasting coffee so far. Def drinkable
Very good info.

Just curious, what beans are everyone using? Very important info!

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Jun 24, 2023 8:56 PM
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AmusedMoon6137Jun 24, 2023 8:56 PM
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Does this have a water line option? I didn't see it in the description of the product, but thought I'd ask
Jun 25, 2023 5:06 AM
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CreonJun 25, 2023 5:06 AM
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Quote from Shushera :
Guess you could try with the coarsest pre-grind but that kinda defeats the purpose.
I set grind level to 2 (default 6) ignoring request in the manual to wait for a month, will see how it goes. ,
Good to know thanks!
Jun 25, 2023 5:07 AM
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CreonJun 25, 2023 5:07 AM
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Quote from AmusedMoon6137 :
Does this have a water line option? I didn't see it in the description of the product, but thought I'd ask
No it doesn't. I don't think any of the home super automatic machines have that option
Jun 25, 2023 7:19 AM
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FranktheTankAllDayJun 25, 2023 7:19 AM
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In for 1 thanks OP
Jun 25, 2023 6:00 PM
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KachurJun 25, 2023 6:00 PM
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This is what made espresso and americano passable for me personally:
Pre-heat cup in microvawe (1 oz water, 15 sec)
Grind level to 2.
Water temp to 1 (service menu)
Making espresso x2 flavor 3
Amount: 2 for americano, 1 for espresso
Add hot water to double the amount for Americano
Beans: gray bags from Costco I been using for ages now.
Also pulled the internals and moved yellow level back and forth dozen or so times until is loosened a bit and was reliably getting into end positions..

Pucks are well formed now but grindings are not as fine as my $20 Cuisinart makes.

PS I think I had too much caffeine for today.

PPS not a coffee snob but know well what good espresso is.
Last edited by Shushera June 25, 2023 at 11:02 AM.
Jun 25, 2023 9:11 PM
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KachurJun 25, 2023 9:11 PM
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For the geeks like myself wondering what "self adjustment" they talk about in the manual, I found in the service manual for older machine:
Quote :
Dose self-learning (SAS)
The aim of this function is to automatically regulate the average dose of ground coffee (SELF-LEARNING); this takes place with an algorithm based on three pieces of data that the machine receives via the card:

1. Number of coffee grinder pulses during the grinding cycle.
2. Max. average value of the power consumed by the gear motor during the coffee brewing cycle.
3. Aroma selected by the user.

The algorithm compares the maximum average value of the power consumed by the gear motor with the value listed in the table for the selected aroma, in order to calculate the new grinding pulse value for the next coffee produced. If the power consumption value is less than the minimum current value, the grinding pulses will
be increased by 2.
If the power consumption value is greater than the maximum current value, the grinding pulses will be decreased by 4.
If the power consumption value falls within the "over-torque" interval, the product will be dispensed and the grinding pulses will be decreased by 10.

If the power consumption value falls within the "abort cycle" interval, the dreg will be expelled and the grinding pulses will be decreased by 10.
If the "pre-ground" flavour is selected by the user, no modification will be made.

When the type or brand of coffee is changed, there may bevariations in the size of the beans and their stickiness or roasting level. This leads to variationsin power consumption (mA), with resulting excessive or insuffi cient doses (until the necessaryadjustments have been made to compensate for this change).

This guarantees that, regardless of the coffee type used, the grinding level setting and the wear on the grinders, the ground coffee dose always remains constant
Number of pulses is number of grinding wheel rotations times 2. Note that increasing amount of grinds is lot less aggressive than reducing, which could happen drastically in one go if grinder gets stuck at any moment. This is consistent with what I am reading in various reviews describing 'sudden loss of coffee quality'

Also I suspect that increasing the size of grinds (someone in this topic suggested going to grind level 12) will likely increase amount of grinds produced temporarily bypassing self-learning cycle.


Edit: Looks like this is service manual for this machine: https://www.manualslib.com/manual...tml#manual
Last edited by Shushera June 25, 2023 at 02:55 PM.
Jun 25, 2023 10:34 PM
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ksdog317Jun 25, 2023 10:34 PM
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Quote from R5R :
Got it, tried it, was pretty meh, returning it.

A stovetop coffee maker + a oxo burr grinder beat it hands down for flavor with the same beans. And its a way cheaper setup.
Not good. Returning mine also

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Jun 25, 2023 10:41 PM
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R5RJun 25, 2023 10:41 PM
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Quote from cameronfield :
I appreciate your feedback. Did you dial it in, or just try a couple shots/coffees?
So i played with the grind settings, the aroma settings and the amount of water. It helped, i found a grind of 4 (i think) + max aroma + low or med water helped. But still it wasnt that great tasted very generic while when using the exact same espresso beans (freshly roasted 8 days prior) in a stovetop maker i got way more flavor.

I did a total of 10 shots to dial it in. The default settings resulted in 0 crema and the grind was way too big.
Last edited by R5R June 25, 2023 at 03:44 PM.

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