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Make sure your system supports (and can enable) Resizable BAR. This card basically requires it for optimal performance. So if you're looking to use this on an older system make sure your motherboard supports Resizable BAR. On (pretty much) any new system it will, so you shouldn't have to worry.
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A couple of quick notes on the Intel Arc cards for those who are considering them from someone running an Enthusiast NUC 12 with an Arc A770M 16GB chip onboard.
If you have the right system and the right use case, Intel's Arc cards can offer a lot of bang for your buck. However, that comes with a lot of caveats you need to be aware of before buying the cards. As someone else mentioned, Arc is heavily reliant on resizable BAR and if your motherboard does not support RBAR then you will want to stay far, far away from these cards. Also, ARC cards perform as well or better than a lot of similarly priced cards provided the software you are running is DX12, Vulkan, or supports XeSS. While drivers are improving, support for DX9, DX11, and other APIs are woefully lacking for ARC. Performance can also be hit or miss for media tools (Adobe performance is all over the place but I have heard things like Blender run well).
To Intel's credit, they have gone out of their way to update the software for Arc and the performance of both the A750 and A770 has been improving steadily over the last year. That said, Nvidia and AMD have a decades long head start when it comes to driver support and as hard as Intel might try, it is going to be difficult to get over that hump. If you buy one of these cards just be aware that you are getting a card with a lot of potential at a heavy discount with the trade off being you are essentially working Q&A for Intel so that they can improve the ARC line long term. If you don't want that kind of hassle, there are plenty of solid AMD/NVIDIA cards that are dropping in price right now that might cost a little more but will run with a lot less headaches.
For anyone curious, Digital Foundry just did an excellent video comparing the A750 to the RTX3600 and RX6600,6650XT, and 7600 cards. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORbmU7Uq2kg
Not sure who's buying those things. Gamers are going to want more performance, low end people will just deal with onboard video. Not sure who they're marketing these cards to.
Don't get me wrong guys, I truly wish Intel will be successful and can be the third main GPU provider after AMD and NVidia. the more competition we have, the better off we are.
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Rx 6600 is cheaper ($179) and has similar if not better and more consistent performance. This code also requires use to finance through Affirn.
Not true anymore. With the latest drivers the A750 competes with the 6650XT, the A750 outperforms it in higher resolutions (1440p, 4k) and trades blows at 1080p. Also as we've seen in the last year, Intel Arc drivers continue to improve performance far more than AMD and Nvidia drivers, so the A750 will age better.
Also the A750 has AV1 encoding (as well as better overall encoding and Quicksync for Plex), XeSS upscaling (and FSR 2.0), and has AI accelerators for AI workloads.
I'd absolutely get the A750 over a 6600xt or 6650xt or 7600xt. The A770 16GB at $300 is too much to recommend though, as the A750 is 95% of the performance in most games for $200.
Not sure who's buying those things. Gamers are going to want more performance, low end people will just deal with onboard video. Not sure who they're marketing these cards to.
The mainstream. At $1-2K, the market for RTX4080/90 is extremely thin.
The mainstream wants better than on board graphics but not budget busting. Intel seems well positioned in the center to provide a good/acceptable gaming experience without spending stupid money.
I embrace anyone that can make this market more competitive. We've been screwed by Nvidia for too long.
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A couple of quick notes on the Intel Arc cards for those who are considering them from someone running an Enthusiast NUC 12 with an Arc A770M 16GB chip onboard.
If you have the right system and the right use case, Intel's Arc cards can offer a lot of bang for your buck. However, that comes with a lot of caveats you need to be aware of before buying the cards. As someone else mentioned, Arc is heavily reliant on resizable BAR and if your motherboard does not support RBAR then you will want to stay far, far away from these cards. Also, ARC cards perform as well or better than a lot of similarly priced cards provided the software you are running is DX12, Vulkan, or supports XeSS. While drivers are improving, support for DX9, DX11, and other APIs are woefully lacking for ARC. Performance can also be hit or miss for media tools (Adobe performance is all over the place but I have heard things like Blender run well).
To Intel's credit, they have gone out of their way to update the software for Arc and the performance of both the A750 and A770 has been improving steadily over the last year. That said, Nvidia and AMD have a decades long head start when it comes to driver support and as hard as Intel might try, it is going to be difficult to get over that hump. If you buy one of these cards just be aware that you are getting a card with a lot of potential at a heavy discount with the trade off being you are essentially working Q&A for Intel so that they can improve the ARC line long term. If you don't want that kind of hassle, there are plenty of solid AMD/NVIDIA cards that are dropping in price right now that might cost a little more but will run with a lot less headaches.
For anyone curious, Digital Foundry just did an excellent video comparing the A750 to the RTX3600 and RX6600,6650XT, and 7600 cards. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORbmU7Uq2kg
I give Intel 2 years before they call it quits or stick with GPU for AI.
They already abandoned the phone atom, 5G , SSD. GPU is next on the chopping block if sales in 2023 and 2024 real bad.
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If you have the right system and the right use case, Intel's Arc cards can offer a lot of bang for your buck. However, that comes with a lot of caveats you need to be aware of before buying the cards. As someone else mentioned, Arc is heavily reliant on resizable BAR and if your motherboard does not support RBAR then you will want to stay far, far away from these cards. Also, ARC cards perform as well or better than a lot of similarly priced cards provided the software you are running is DX12, Vulkan, or supports XeSS. While drivers are improving, support for DX9, DX11, and other APIs are woefully lacking for ARC. Performance can also be hit or miss for media tools (Adobe performance is all over the place but I have heard things like Blender run well).
To Intel's credit, they have gone out of their way to update the software for Arc and the performance of both the A750 and A770 has been improving steadily over the last year. That said, Nvidia and AMD have a decades long head start when it comes to driver support and as hard as Intel might try, it is going to be difficult to get over that hump. If you buy one of these cards just be aware that you are getting a card with a lot of potential at a heavy discount with the trade off being you are essentially working Q&A for Intel so that they can improve the ARC line long term. If you don't want that kind of hassle, there are plenty of solid AMD/NVIDIA cards that are dropping in price right now that might cost a little more but will run with a lot less headaches.
For anyone curious, Digital Foundry just did an excellent video comparing the A750 to the RTX3600 and RX6600,6650XT, and 7600 cards. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORbmU7U
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Why?
This card competes very well at this price at the bottom end-- a market AMD and especially Nvidia had largely abandoned.
Seems a lot smarter strategy to offer good value where nobody else does than to try and take on flagship cards of 2 giants as a starting strategy.
Also the A750 has AV1 encoding (as well as better overall encoding and Quicksync for Plex), XeSS upscaling (and FSR 2.0), and has AI accelerators for AI workloads.
I'd absolutely get the A750 over a 6600xt or 6650xt or 7600xt. The A770 16GB at $300 is too much to recommend though, as the A750 is 95% of the performance in most games for $200.
The mainstream. At $1-2K, the market for RTX4080/90 is extremely thin.
The mainstream wants better than on board graphics but not budget busting. Intel seems well positioned in the center to provide a good/acceptable gaming experience without spending stupid money.
I embrace anyone that can make this market more competitive. We've been screwed by Nvidia for too long.
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If you have the right system and the right use case, Intel's Arc cards can offer a lot of bang for your buck. However, that comes with a lot of caveats you need to be aware of before buying the cards. As someone else mentioned, Arc is heavily reliant on resizable BAR and if your motherboard does not support RBAR then you will want to stay far, far away from these cards. Also, ARC cards perform as well or better than a lot of similarly priced cards provided the software you are running is DX12, Vulkan, or supports XeSS. While drivers are improving, support for DX9, DX11, and other APIs are woefully lacking for ARC. Performance can also be hit or miss for media tools (Adobe performance is all over the place but I have heard things like Blender run well).
To Intel's credit, they have gone out of their way to update the software for Arc and the performance of both the A750 and A770 has been improving steadily over the last year. That said, Nvidia and AMD have a decades long head start when it comes to driver support and as hard as Intel might try, it is going to be difficult to get over that hump. If you buy one of these cards just be aware that you are getting a card with a lot of potential at a heavy discount with the trade off being you are essentially working Q&A for Intel so that they can improve the ARC line long term. If you don't want that kind of hassle, there are plenty of solid AMD/NVIDIA cards that are dropping in price right now that might cost a little more but will run with a lot less headaches.
For anyone curious, Digital Foundry just did an excellent video comparing the A750 to the RTX3600 and RX6600,6650XT, and 7600 cards. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORbmU7U
They already abandoned the phone atom, 5G , SSD. GPU is next on the chopping block if sales in 2023 and 2024 real bad.
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