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MaxRC
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I built my own NAS about 12 years ago. I switched to a QNAP about 4 years ago. I run multiple micro form factor PCs with Proxmox VMs for a variety of purposes. All this is to say that I don't shy away from building my own.

The reason I like a QNAP/Synology solution is that they do a better job of abstracting the underlying technology into a smaller set of configurations. NAS is a specific type of application that doesn't require powerful CPUs or a ton of RAM to run well at very high-performance levels. So with something like a Synology, you get the benefit of streamlined configuration, predictable/stable performance, and a rich set of management/access/security/backup/sync/notification features that would take very complicated configuration to replicate. TrueNAS makes this easier, but it's not as easy as Synology/QNAP. For those that want to ticker with their NAS, they can try building a TrueNAS system. For me, my NAS holds important files that I just want to be available so I'm not tinkering with it. I do my tinkering with the Proxmox VMs.

Lastly, want to mention that my self-built NAS pulled about 80 watts on idle and that was quite an achievement with under-volting an AMD processor. The QNAP I have now run about 20-40 watts depending on load. For the 8 years I ran my self-built NAS, that's 2800kWh of additional electricity used, or about $420 at 15 cents a kWh. Your mileage may vary, but a Synology/QNAP will have lower energy costs over the years.
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its only $80 more for DS1522+. you get one additional bay for hard disk and 8gb of ram. i think that's a better deal

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Jul 11, 2023 07:22 AM
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t99Jul 11, 2023 07:22 AM
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DS1522+ also on sale for $559.99. Get 7% casback with prime card and no rush shipping.
Jul 11, 2023 09:21 AM
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ytwigJul 11, 2023 09:21 AM
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This or the 423+ that I got for $369?
Don't need hardware transcoding.
Is it worth the extra $100 to be more future proof?
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Quote from ytwig :
This or the 423+ that I got for $369?
Don't need hardware transcoding.
Is it worth the extra $100 to be more future proof?

i think only you can answer it.. it depends how often you use it. if it's multiple times per week = yes, less than once a week, maybe not.
Jul 11, 2023 09:55 AM
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MagentaSummer812Jul 11, 2023 09:55 AM
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DS1522+ is a great deal at this price.

I bought one earlier this year for $700 on Amazon and do not regret it. The 1522+ comes with 5 bays normally, and it can be expanded to up to 15 bays with two DX517 5 bay expansions. It takes several days to add a spinning disc to the RAID configuration, but there haven't been any errors or downtime in over 180 days of use. Comes with 2 m.2 slots for faster caching and writing. Web UI is super convenient.
Jul 11, 2023 10:29 AM
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sumthin_gudJul 11, 2023 10:29 AM
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thanks, got the 1522+. 7% shows up at checkout under free no-rush shipping if you have the prime card.
Jul 11, 2023 10:40 AM
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npmpJul 11, 2023 10:40 AM
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Quote from MagentaSummer812 :
DS1522+ is a great deal at this price.

I bought one earlier this year for $700 on Amazon and do not regret it. The 1522+ comes with 5 bays normally, and it can be expanded to up to 15 bays with two DX517 5 bay expansions. It takes several days to add a spinning disc to the RAID configuration, but there haven't been any errors or downtime in over 180 days of use. Comes with 2 m.2 slots for faster caching and writing. Web UI is super convenient.
I do see only NVMe SSD for caching. Are you sure they can be used for SSD store?
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DragonflyPunchJul 11, 2023 11:02 AM
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Is it worth changing from a QNAP TS-453Be to the Synology DS923+? My QNAP is chugging along for 5 years now. The biggest issue with it is that it just never goes to sleep. Keeps on making noises and spinning the disks all day 24/7. It thought it was because I was using a Docker container (for an ebook server; the excellent Calibre-Web). But it behaves the same even when the docker is off. I tried everything. Even deleted everything and started from scratch once. Pored over it on forums multiple times over the years. The consensus seems to be QNAP just could never figure out sleep perfectly. There doesn't seem to be any problem with it otherwise; it's just irritating. My other old Synology 220j sleeps idly and wakes up only when I need a file from it. Just the way it should be. But then it doesn't have any Plex or docker station being used.

The biggest concern I have in moving to DS923+ is that my QNAP does have hardware transcoding, while the Synology does not. That being said, I've moved onto a client side decoding option (Infuse for Mac/iOS), since it works better than any transcoding, so I won't miss it much. But it was good to have if I ever needed it. The other concern with DS923+ is that reviews say it's loud and has high power consumption (and thus heat). Not sure if that is something to worry about too much. If it goes to sleep fine, it may not be a problem. But if it turns out it behaves the same as my current QNAP, I'll rather keep my $500.

Use case wise, by QNAP works just fine, so there is no need to upgrade. I use it for syncing backups, the ebook server and multimedia (used to use Plex but moved onto Infuse to side-step transcoding; still use Plex for library management since I have the lifetime license anyway, but it's connected to Infuse so Plex is being used as a dummy server without transcoding). The one and only problem I have is the constant noise.

Any opinions or advice would be helpful.

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Jul 11, 2023 11:07 AM
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MagentaSummer812Jul 11, 2023 11:07 AM
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Quote from npmp :
I do see only NVMe SSD for caching. Are you sure they can be used for SSD store?
You can set them to act as a read-only cache, or a read/write cache. You will need at least 2 of them, but the read/write supports RAID 1/5/6/10. It greatly increases write speeds when transferring data to/from HDDs during the initial setup. You can always also use wifi to load data. The M.2 doesn't really increase performance on Plex.
Jul 11, 2023 11:39 AM
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fantasylinJul 11, 2023 11:39 AM
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Quote from ytwig :
This or the 423+ that I got for $369?
Don't need hardware transcoding.
Is it worth the extra $100 to be more future proof?
Where did you get the 423+ for that price? Thanks
Jul 11, 2023 12:43 PM
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PupzNKCJul 11, 2023 12:43 PM
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Quote from ytwig :
This or the 423+ that I got for $369?
Don't need hardware transcoding.
Is it worth the extra $100 to be more future proof?
Missed that deal and I would've went for that one. I'm actually wishing the 423+ went on sale honestly.
Jul 11, 2023 01:38 PM
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WittyMorning245Jul 11, 2023 01:38 PM
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Is it true you need to use the same brand/capacity drives in all slots?
Jul 11, 2023 01:53 PM
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RlndVJul 11, 2023 01:53 PM
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Quote from WittyMorning245 :
Is it true you need to use the same brand/capacity drives in all slots?
The answer is... it depends.

But if you have to ask, you probably don't have a good reason to have mismatched drives. For like 99% of typical use cases where people run RAID10 on a 4-bay unit, you want to have drives of the same model.
Jul 11, 2023 01:57 PM
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ender2851Jul 11, 2023 01:57 PM
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in the past i have seen people say these do not work well as a Plex servers. is that statement still true?
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barrystrawbridgesJul 11, 2023 02:02 PM
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Do these have hard drive brand restrictions?

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Quote from MagentaSummer812 :
You can set them to act as a read-only cache, or a read/write cache. You will need at least 2 of them, but the read/write supports RAID 1/5/6/10. It greatly increases write speeds when transferring data to/from HDDs during the initial setup. You can always also use wifi to load data. The M.2 doesn't really increase performance on Plex.
I only want to add that the bottleneck in these NAS systems is the network, not drive performance. You really want to use wired Ethernet with these boxes, and that still only 1 Gb/second max, or 125 MB/sec.

At least, that's been my experience. And if you use WiFi, it's half that fast at best.

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