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NJ EV rebate is on now, starting today July 12 - RWD Model 3 <$29K after all incentives, Bolt EV $15K EUV $16.3K

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https://chargeup.njcleanenergy.com/

Quick summary:
1. Must order on 7/12 or later - previous orders do not qualify!
2. $4000 for MSRP < $45000 (Bolt EV/EUV both qualify, some Model 3 qualify, you can search the website to determine).
3. $1500 for MSRP <= $55000 (Model Y).
4. Above incentive is limited by $25/EPA rated miles, so theoretically any car with MSRP < $45K and 160 miles should qualify for $4000, yet the website said 200 miles qualifies for up to $4000 depending on MSRP. This might be a mistake on their part as last year was $5000, which requires 200 miles. But if you want to be sure, ask them via email or phone (listed on the link above).

So Bolt EUV/EV is gonna be an insane deal again. Cheapest Bolt EV starts at $15K while cheapest EUV at $16.3K if you qualify for all incentives. And EVs do not have NJ sales tax. Altogether they're cheaper than the majority of comparable ICE cars!

Tesla is also much more affordable with no NJ sales tax, and a combined $9000 to $11500 Fed/NJ incentives (the cheapest Model 3 is now less than $29K if you qualify for both incentives).
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pugxiwawa
07-22-2023 at 06:32 AM.
07-22-2023 at 06:32 AM.
Quote from WiseTerrier243 :
Does the incentives are applicable for new inventory model 3 which has price tag of 38350$ car?
If I apply for rebate for state after how many days it gets credited ?
I was living in New Jersey until last month, now I moved to Boston because of my job and my pay roll is running in Boston but my license is still in New Jersey, am I still getting rebate ?

Please help!!?
You already moved, won't be eligible.
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07-22-2023 at 06:34 AM.
07-22-2023 at 06:34 AM.
Jesus people, if you already moved out of NJ or don't even live in NJ at all, stop trying to game the system and taking the rebate from people who actually live in NJ. Have some common courtesy.
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07-23-2023 at 10:41 AM.
07-23-2023 at 10:41 AM.
Game Changer..
Toyota is planning a new EV with a 900-mile range and 10-minute charging time: 'The holy grail of battery vehicles'
https://news.yahoo.com/toyota-pla...00356.html
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07-24-2023 at 04:18 PM.
07-24-2023 at 04:18 PM.
Quote from Eudaimaniac :
Having lived in Asbury Park for a decade I can confidently say, NJ is america's armpit

I mean you lived in the most ghetto town imaginable. If you couldn't afford to live in a nice area, just say that.
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07-24-2023 at 04:39 PM.
07-24-2023 at 04:39 PM.
Quote from chazjr :
Game Changer..
Toyota is planning a new EV with a 900-mile range and 10-minute charging time: 'The holy grail of battery vehicles'
https://news.yahoo.com/toyota-pla...00356.html

You already posted this same garbage 8 days ago.

In this thread.

And it was immediately debunked in the next post, viewable here:
https://slickdeals.net/forums/showpost.php?p=164743556&postcount=54


So why repeat a story you already know is 100% BS, in the same thread it was already debunked in?
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FishKilla
07-31-2023 at 07:09 AM.
07-31-2023 at 07:09 AM.
NJ residents be prepared to lose a lot of range in the winter.

https://www.reuters.com/investiga...ies-range/
Quote:

"Tesla was fined earlier this year by South Korean regulators who found the cars delivered as little as half their advertised range in cold weather. Another recent study found that three Tesla models averaged 26% below their advertised ranges."
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07-31-2023 at 02:07 PM.
07-31-2023 at 02:07 PM.
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NJ residents be prepared to lose a lot of range in the winter.

It's remarkable to me that >10 years into having mass produced EVs, and decades of people using lithium ions in other things, it's JUST NOW somehow new info to people that capacity is impacted by temperature.

Nothing about this is unique to Tesla.

Heck GAS cars lose range in winter too, just not quite as much:

https://www.energy.gov/energysave...ld-weather

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Expect conventional gasoline vehicles to suffer a 10% to 20% fuel economy loss in city driving and a 15% to 33% loss on short trips.
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07-31-2023 at 02:10 PM.
07-31-2023 at 02:10 PM.
Quote from Knightshade :
It's remarkable to me that >10 years into having mass produced EVs, and decades of people using lithium ions in other things, it's JUST NOW somehow new info to people that capacity is impacted by temperature.

Nothing about this is unique to Tesla.

Heck GAS cars lose range in winter too, just not quite as much:

https://www.energy.gov/energysave...ld-weather
The phenomenon is not unique to Tesla. However, Tesla inflates the numbers much more than the other companies do.
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07-31-2023 at 03:58 PM.
07-31-2023 at 03:58 PM.
Quote from sgb :
The phenomenon is not unique to Tesla. However, Tesla inflates the numbers much more than the other companies do.

Tesla has to follow the same rules for EPA testing as every other company out there- they can't "inflate" the results of the testing any more than anyone else can.


https://www.caranddriver.com/feat...e-numbers/

That's Car and Driver explaining how the EPA testing works- and why Teslas numbers come out as good as they do from that testing.


One big key here is originally the EPA wanted everyone to do 5 cycle testing on EVs.

Legacy car makers said that was too much work, so the EPA gave them the option to run 2 cycle testing and just apply a conversion factor.

That lazy route is what nearly every legacy company STILL does.

Tesla (and Audi) are smart enough to just go ahead and run the 5 cycle test. Which gives you a better result.

There's a few other factors too (Teslas regen does a better job recapturing energy compared to the braking setups on most other EVs in the type of driving the EPA is testing as another example) but none of em are anything other car makers couldn't also do if they cared to.
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07-31-2023 at 04:13 PM.
07-31-2023 at 04:13 PM.
Quote from Knightshade :
Tesla has to follow the same rules for EPA testing as every other company out there- they can't "inflate" the results of the testing any more than anyone else can.


https://www.caranddriver.com/feat...e-numbers/

That's Car and Driver explaining how the EPA testing works- and why Teslas numbers come out as good as they do from that testing.


One big key here is originally the EPA wanted everyone to do 5 cycle testing on EVs.

Legacy car makers said that was too much work, so the EPA gave them the option to run 2 cycle testing and just apply a conversion factor.

That lazy route is what nearly every legacy company STILL does.

Tesla (and Audi) are smart enough to just go ahead and run the 5 cycle test. Which gives you a better result.

There's a few other factors too (Teslas regen does a better job recapturing energy compared to the braking setups on most other EVs in the type of driving the EPA is testing as another example) but none of em are anything other car makers couldn't also do if they cared to.
https://www.motortrend.com/news/t...20estimate.
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07-31-2023 at 06:04 PM.
07-31-2023 at 06:04 PM.

That's just repeating the same Reuters story already debunked over here:
https://slickdeals.net/f/16691801-2023-tesla-model-3-w-3-months-supercharging-7500-federal-tax-credit-from-37830-for-qualifying-buyers?v=1&p=164966369#post164966369



If you're going to troll at least try and be original.

The tl;dr is it's Reuters reporting on:

Software they can last confirm was in use 10 years ago, and which doesn't actually do what they claim.

A team that would handle service requests from people who hadn't learned how range on an EV works- and informing them they don't need a service visit because there's nothing wrong with the car. The story confirms there was no actual need for service on these cars- so keeping the appointment would've wasted everyones time. But they're still mad for...some....reason. Hilariously the ONE Tesla owner they got to speak for the story had this happen to him....and was mad...so he showed up at the service center anyway. Where he... wasted everyones time and was again told there was nothing wrong.

He then admits he did some reading on EV range and realized.... there's nothing wrong and he wasted everyones time.

But Reuters still wants you to be mad at Tesla...for...REASONS.



I guess in fairness to Motortrend, they did add one thing that was not in the original Reuters story... so I will quote that directly here- and thanks for posting the link that includes it!

Quote from Motortrend :
Tesla vehiclesโ€”in terms of their performance, interior simplicity, and the availability and consistency of its charging networkโ€”are also still hard to beat against what's currently offered by other manufacturers.
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08-01-2023 at 08:20 AM.
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Quote from Knightshade :
But Reuters still wants you to be mad at Tesla...for...REASONS.



Please elaborate on your statement for "REASONS"

Do you have links to back that up?

Are they the same "REASONS" as consumer reports?

What are the reasons why people tell the truth about Teslas?
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08-01-2023 at 08:27 AM.
08-01-2023 at 08:27 AM.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/autos/n...2a422&ei=9

one thing that stands out among the four cars is the Tesla Model Y's inability to reach its EPA-rated range of 326 miles even when the outside temperature wasn't as low as to affect the battery chemistry.

In the Consumer Reports test, which consisted of constant cruising on the highway at 70 miles per hour (112 kilometers per hour) on a 142-mile (228 km) round-trip, the Model Y's calculated real-world range was down to 186 miles (299 km) in cold weather (an average temperature of 16 degrees Fahrenheit or -8 degrees Celsius).

By comparison, the Mustang Mach-E, with its official range of 270 miles (434 km), got a cold weather result of 188 miles (302 km), while the Hyundai Ioniq 5 achieved a real-world cold weather range of 183 miles (294 km), with the EPA estimate saying it could travel 256 miles (412 km) on a single charge.
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08-01-2023 at 10:09 AM.
08-01-2023 at 10:09 AM.
Quote from FishKilla :
Please elaborate on your statement for "REASONS"

Do you have links to back that up?
That's kind of the point of the post. And the actual original story backs it up quite clearly.


They're mad about things that there's nothing actually wrong with (like how they cancelled appointments when there was nothing wrong with the car-- and then even the guy mad about it admitted they were right and there was nothing wrong)... and things that they can't even confirm have existed for nearly 10 years and never did what they claim it did in the first place (the dash display thing they admit they have no idea if it's actually in use and which has NOTHING TO DO with the EPA reported range anyway)... and they get mad about these for REASONS they never bother to explain.


Once again you somehow missed it.




Quote from FishKilla :
What are the reasons why people tell the truth about Teslas?

To correct the misinformation posted about them by people like yourself LMAO



Quote from FishKilla :
one thing that stands out among the four cars is the Tesla Model Y's inability to reach its EPA-rated range of 326 miles even when the outside temperature wasn't as low as to affect the battery chemistry.

In the Consumer Reports test, which consisted of constant cruising on the highway at 70 miles per hour (112 kilometers per hour) on a 142-mile (228 km) round-trip.

So when they performed a test completely different from the EPA test they got results....different from the EPA test results.


WHAT A SHOCKING DISCOVERY.

But sure- nobody's going out of their way to post nonsensical FUD for some weird agenda. That checks out. No, wait, the opposite of that....
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