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frontpagechunmanc123 posted Aug 07, 2023 04:53 AM

U.S. Treasury: Short Term Treasury Bills (4-Week-52-Week Maturity) Up to

5.50% Interest

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Note: Rates are subject to change daily; rates are the daily secondary market quotations on the most recently auctioned Treasury Bills for each maturity tranche (4-week, 8-week, 13-week, 17-week, 26-week, and 52-week) for which Treasury currently issues new bills. Up to Date Rates can be found here (scroll to bottom of list)

U.S. Government Treasury is offering Up to 5.499% Coupon Rate (Interest Rate) on Short Term Treasury Bills which can be Purchased for a Duration of 4-Weeks-52 Weeks Maturity.

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Note, if interested, you may choose to purchase Treasury Bills through your preferred Brokerage Firm

Example Current Rates (8/9/23): (Coupon Rates [Interest Rates] change daily):
  • 13-Week Maturity: 5.451%
  • 26-Week Maturity: 5.499%
  • 52-Week Maturity: 5.351%

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Written by slickdewmaster | Staff
  • About this Offer:
    • Interest paid: When the bill matures
    • Minimum purchase : $100
    • In increments of: $100
    • Maximum purchase: $10 million (non-competitive bid)
    • Auction frequency:
      • Every four weeks for 52-week bills
      • Weekly for 4, 8, 13, 17, 26-week bills
      • No regular schedule for Cash Management Bills
      • See the Auction calendar for specific date
      • More Info
    • Taxes: Federal tax due on interest earned. No state or local taxes
  • Refer to forum thread for discussion from the community regarding this offer. -slickdewmaster

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Written by chunmanc123
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Note: Rates are subject to change daily; rates are the daily secondary market quotations on the most recently auctioned Treasury Bills for each maturity tranche (4-week, 8-week, 13-week, 17-week, 26-week, and 52-week) for which Treasury currently issues new bills. Up to Date Rates can be found here (scroll to bottom of list)

U.S. Government Treasury is offering Up to 5.499% Coupon Rate (Interest Rate) on Short Term Treasury Bills which can be Purchased for a Duration of 4-Weeks-52 Weeks Maturity.

Thanks community member chunmanc123 for sharing this deal

Note, if interested, you may choose to purchase Treasury Bills through your preferred Brokerage Firm

Example Current Rates (8/9/23): (Coupon Rates [Interest Rates] change daily):
  • 13-Week Maturity: 5.451%
  • 26-Week Maturity: 5.499%
  • 52-Week Maturity: 5.351%

Editor's Notes

Written by slickdewmaster | Staff
  • About this Offer:
    • Interest paid: When the bill matures
    • Minimum purchase : $100
    • In increments of: $100
    • Maximum purchase: $10 million (non-competitive bid)
    • Auction frequency:
      • Every four weeks for 52-week bills
      • Weekly for 4, 8, 13, 17, 26-week bills
      • No regular schedule for Cash Management Bills
      • See the Auction calendar for specific date
      • More Info
    • Taxes: Federal tax due on interest earned. No state or local taxes
  • Refer to forum thread for discussion from the community regarding this offer. -slickdewmaster

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OliveFlag247
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To clarify...

Treasury BILLS are currently paying over 5% for various maturity lengths under 1 year. These can be bought through most brokerages even without a TreasuryDirect account.

Treasury BONDS are paying 4% or less and have 20 or 30 year terms.
if200
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Have learned so much on this site so am trying to return the favor with what I've learned that I don't see anyone else talking about.

The 4 week bill ordering opens tomorrow 8/8, the deadline to buy it is sometime Thursday 8/10 morning depending on where you are buying it and it settles on 8/15.

On TD Ameritrade, they take your money on the 10th (take it out of the money you can trade with when you hit purchase which can be as early as the 8th) and buy the bill on the 15th during time which you earn no interest. Thus the reason that I stopped buying 4 and 8 week bills at auction. Secondary markets settle the next day so often a better deal. Treasury direct does not take the money from your bank account till the day it settles and Vanguard keeps it in the settlement fund earning interest till the day it settles as well. Not sure about the other brokerage houses. Also, not sure if you rollover the t-bills how the time between redemption and the next auction works as far as any interest you are losing as that is often a week of interest as well.

FYI, if you do the math, 4 weeks for $10,000 usually gets you about $40 in interest for letting them hold your money for 5 weeks.

The Monday auctions for 3 months and six months settle on Thursday so much less time to hold your money for nothing and less redemption downtime.

The money market funds often have repurchase agreements that are taxed at the state and local level but obviously more liquid. Am looking into the ETFs now.

Good luck to everyone!
oonchie
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I'd recommend searching for diamondnestegg on youtube. She has a bunch of very useful videos on how to purchase and where explaining step by step on how to do it.

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Aug 09, 2023 07:08 PM
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crablover2Aug 09, 2023 07:08 PM
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Quote from 02nz :
Yes I use TD as well (for I Bonds). But it's another account to set up, and it is clunky and a little temperamental, although not as bad it used to be. Buying/selling ETFs is as easy as it gets, esp. for those who already have a brokerage account at Vanguard, Fidelity, Schwab, or whatever.
If you already have a Treasury Direct account for your iBonds (like I do), then you have the account to buy Treasury bills/notes/bonds from Treasury Direct already. There is no additional account to set up, you just go to the DirectBuy tab and choose bills (or notes or bonds). You can also choose iBonds to buy, but I don't think too many people are doing that anymore.

Don't ETFs have fees, either buying/selling or inherent in the management of the ETF? I thought all ETFs and mutual funds had fees baked into them. The fees are usually hidden and reflect in a slightly lower yield or the NAV pricing.
Aug 09, 2023 07:11 PM
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jroth3Aug 09, 2023 07:11 PM
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Quote from newgun :
you really don't need any luckust look at your bank transaction record for this purchase, you will notice the interest part is already reflected (the amount you paid + expected interest = the face value of the amount you purchased)ay you purchased $1k 17-week treasury bill at the rate of 5.484%, your 17 week interest would be around (($1000*0.05484)/365)*119=$17.88, you should see a withdraw of $1000-$17.88= $982.12 from your account by treasury directt the end of 17-week period, if you haven't chosen to reinvest, you will see $1000 being deposited into your bank account by treasury direct.
thank you !
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BondTraderAug 09, 2023 07:12 PM
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Quote from crablover2 :
If you already have a Treasury Direct account for your iBonds (like I do), then you have the account to buy Treasury bills/notes/bonds from Treasury Direct already. There is no additional account to set up, you just go to the DirectBuy tab and choose bills (or notes or bonds). You can also choose iBonds to buy, but I don't think too many people are doing that anymore.

Don't ETFs have fees, either buying/selling or inherent in the management of the ETF? I thought all ETFs and mutual funds had fees baked into them. The fees are usually hidden and reflect in a slightly lower yield or the NAV pricing.
He's likely not aware they have fees. Nor does he understand how it impacts performance. In the past 3 months, if you bought those ETFs, you underperformed the 1M and 3M T-bills by more than 0.20%.
Aug 09, 2023 07:13 PM
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youngbillyAug 09, 2023 07:13 PM
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I have an account opened last year. I never bought anything from it since I open. Can somebody tell me steps to buy the CD?

Thank you very much.
Aug 09, 2023 07:15 PM
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02nzAug 09, 2023 07:15 PM
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Quote from crablover2 :
If you already have a Treasury Direct account for your iBonds (like I do), then you have the account to buy Treasury bills/notes/bonds from Treasury Direct already. There is no additional account to set up, you just go to the DirectBuy tab and choose bills (or notes or bonds). You can also choose iBonds to buy, but I don't think too many people are doing that anymore.

Don't ETFs have fees, either buying/selling or inherent in the management of the ETF? I thought all ETFs and mutual funds had fees baked into them. The fees are usually hidden and reflect in a slightly lower yield or the NAV pricing.
ETFs are free to buy/sell at just about all brokerages these days. The expense ratio of SGOV is just 0.07%, or $7 a year for every $10K invested.
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ToadKillaAug 09, 2023 07:27 PM
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Quote from SaverDaddy :
at least I'll be able to wipe my ass
I don't think the Benjamins would like it that much.
Aug 09, 2023 07:29 PM
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ToadKillaAug 09, 2023 07:29 PM
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Quote from 02nz :
To be fair, treasuries are pretty liquid, too - not as "easy to use" as ETFs, but the secondary market for them is efficient. CDs, by contrast, are only liquid at cost of paying an early withdrawal penalty (or, for brokered CDs, on the secondary market, where you generally eat a significant loss if you sell early).
If you are locked out of your money, even for a brief period, that is not liquid.

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Aug 09, 2023 07:31 PM
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BuckarooBanzaiAug 09, 2023 07:31 PM
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I have a Tdirect account for bonds, but have never tried these. How do you redeem these things when they mature?
Aug 09, 2023 07:34 PM
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grocerylistAug 09, 2023 07:34 PM
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I'm cashing out my I Bonds that I bought back in May2022 and buying the 26 week TBill.
Aug 09, 2023 07:37 PM
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KissimmeegalAug 09, 2023 07:37 PM
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I purchased e bonds from them for years. Then when my husband died and I needed to get my money out, it became a nightmare. And it's not just me, sitejabber gives them 1.52 stars out of 5, and many of the stories echo what I had to deal with.

"TreasuryDirect has a rating of 1.52 stars from 149 reviews, indicating that most customers are generally dissatisfied with their purchases. Reviewers complaining about TreasuryDirect most frequently mention customer service, bank account, and hour wait problems. TreasuryDirect ranks 152nd among Government sites."

https://www.sitejabber.com/review...nt%20sites.

They are more than happy to take your money - not so happy to give it back.
Aug 09, 2023 07:37 PM
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crablover2Aug 09, 2023 07:37 PM
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Quote from jojan1 :
For CA residents, how best to think about this concept? so if I currently have $$ parked in a savings account with a 5.25% APR yield, to make it an apples to apples comparison to Tbills, I would have to take 13% off my savings account yield making it 4.567% (5.25% less 13%)? (before Fed inc tax)
Yes, I think you are thinking of it correctly. I'm from CA and I just do a really rough analysis. If a taxable savings account earns 5.25%, I just subtract the 'state income tax' of 10% from it to determine the equivalent rate with a no tax investment. 10% is close enough and easy to do in my head. So 5.25% would be equivalent to a 5.25%-0.525%=4.725%. So the 5.25% savings rate is only better if the Treasury is earning less than 4.725%. Again, this is super rough.
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crablover2Aug 09, 2023 07:41 PM
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Quote from BuckarooBanzai :
I have a Tdirect account for bonds, but have never tried these. How do you redeem these things when they mature?
When you set up the purchase, you indicate where you want the money to go on maturity. You can roll it, or pick a bank account on file for where to send the proceeds. After you've chosen these things, you can change the rolling or destination any time before it matures by selecting the bill/note/bond to look at and editing (whatever it is you want to edit, even the registration to a new one with a different beneficiary).
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ToadKillaAug 09, 2023 07:42 PM
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Quote from Kissimmeegal :
I purchased e bonds from them for years. Then when my husband died and I needed to get my money out, it became a nightmare. And it's not just me, sitejabber gives them 1.52 stars out of 5, and many of the stories echo what I had to deal with.

"TreasuryDirect has a rating of 1.52 stars from 149 reviews, indicating that most customers are generally dissatisfied with their purchases. Reviewers complaining about TreasuryDirect most frequently mention customer service, bank account, and hour wait problems. TreasuryDirect ranks 152nd among Government sites."

https://www.sitejabber.com/review...nt%20sites.

They are more than happy to take your money - not so happy to give it back.
I don't think that's the case. it might be situational. and As for the reviews go, mostly the situational unhappy customers leave the review. I feel sorry for your loss and what you went through. It is not easy to lose a family member and then go through the hoops right after. Been there!
Aug 09, 2023 07:44 PM
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BuckarooBanzaiAug 09, 2023 07:44 PM
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Quote from crablover2 :
When you set up the purchase, you indicate where you want the money to go on maturity. You can roll it, or pick a bank account on file for where to send the proceeds. After you've chosen these things, you can change the rolling or destination any time before it matures by selecting the bill/note/bond to look at and editing (whatever it is you want to edit, even the registration to a new one with a different beneficiary).
Thank you!

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Aug 09, 2023 07:53 PM
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KissimmeegalAug 09, 2023 07:53 PM
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Quote from ToadKilla :
I don't think that's the case. it might be situational. and As for the reviews go, mostly the situational unhappy customers leave the review. I feel sorry for your loss and what you went through. It is not easy to lose a family member and then go through the hoops right after. Been there!
Well, you may not think that is the case, but it sure as heck was for me, and according to sitejabber and other review sites, quite a few more. And believe me, it was a lot more than going through "hoops."

Just suggesting people investigate before they decide to do business with them.
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