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frontpagechunmanc123 posted Aug 07, 2023 04:53 AM

U.S. Treasury: Short Term Treasury Bills (4-Week-52-Week Maturity) Up to

5.50% Interest

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Note: Rates are subject to change daily; rates are the daily secondary market quotations on the most recently auctioned Treasury Bills for each maturity tranche (4-week, 8-week, 13-week, 17-week, 26-week, and 52-week) for which Treasury currently issues new bills. Up to Date Rates can be found here (scroll to bottom of list)

U.S. Government Treasury is offering Up to 5.499% Coupon Rate (Interest Rate) on Short Term Treasury Bills which can be Purchased for a Duration of 4-Weeks-52 Weeks Maturity.

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Note, if interested, you may choose to purchase Treasury Bills through your preferred Brokerage Firm

Example Current Rates (8/9/23): (Coupon Rates [Interest Rates] change daily):
  • 13-Week Maturity: 5.451%
  • 26-Week Maturity: 5.499%
  • 52-Week Maturity: 5.351%

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Written by slickdewmaster | Staff
  • About this Offer:
    • Interest paid: When the bill matures
    • Minimum purchase : $100
    • In increments of: $100
    • Maximum purchase: $10 million (non-competitive bid)
    • Auction frequency:
      • Every four weeks for 52-week bills
      • Weekly for 4, 8, 13, 17, 26-week bills
      • No regular schedule for Cash Management Bills
      • See the Auction calendar for specific date
      • More Info
    • Taxes: Federal tax due on interest earned. No state or local taxes
  • Refer to forum thread for discussion from the community regarding this offer. -slickdewmaster

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Written by chunmanc123
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Note: Rates are subject to change daily; rates are the daily secondary market quotations on the most recently auctioned Treasury Bills for each maturity tranche (4-week, 8-week, 13-week, 17-week, 26-week, and 52-week) for which Treasury currently issues new bills. Up to Date Rates can be found here (scroll to bottom of list)

U.S. Government Treasury is offering Up to 5.499% Coupon Rate (Interest Rate) on Short Term Treasury Bills which can be Purchased for a Duration of 4-Weeks-52 Weeks Maturity.

Thanks community member chunmanc123 for sharing this deal

Note, if interested, you may choose to purchase Treasury Bills through your preferred Brokerage Firm

Example Current Rates (8/9/23): (Coupon Rates [Interest Rates] change daily):
  • 13-Week Maturity: 5.451%
  • 26-Week Maturity: 5.499%
  • 52-Week Maturity: 5.351%

Editor's Notes

Written by slickdewmaster | Staff
  • About this Offer:
    • Interest paid: When the bill matures
    • Minimum purchase : $100
    • In increments of: $100
    • Maximum purchase: $10 million (non-competitive bid)
    • Auction frequency:
      • Every four weeks for 52-week bills
      • Weekly for 4, 8, 13, 17, 26-week bills
      • No regular schedule for Cash Management Bills
      • See the Auction calendar for specific date
      • More Info
    • Taxes: Federal tax due on interest earned. No state or local taxes
  • Refer to forum thread for discussion from the community regarding this offer. -slickdewmaster

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OliveFlag247
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To clarify...

Treasury BILLS are currently paying over 5% for various maturity lengths under 1 year. These can be bought through most brokerages even without a TreasuryDirect account.

Treasury BONDS are paying 4% or less and have 20 or 30 year terms.
if200
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Have learned so much on this site so am trying to return the favor with what I've learned that I don't see anyone else talking about.

The 4 week bill ordering opens tomorrow 8/8, the deadline to buy it is sometime Thursday 8/10 morning depending on where you are buying it and it settles on 8/15.

On TD Ameritrade, they take your money on the 10th (take it out of the money you can trade with when you hit purchase which can be as early as the 8th) and buy the bill on the 15th during time which you earn no interest. Thus the reason that I stopped buying 4 and 8 week bills at auction. Secondary markets settle the next day so often a better deal. Treasury direct does not take the money from your bank account till the day it settles and Vanguard keeps it in the settlement fund earning interest till the day it settles as well. Not sure about the other brokerage houses. Also, not sure if you rollover the t-bills how the time between redemption and the next auction works as far as any interest you are losing as that is often a week of interest as well.

FYI, if you do the math, 4 weeks for $10,000 usually gets you about $40 in interest for letting them hold your money for 5 weeks.

The Monday auctions for 3 months and six months settle on Thursday so much less time to hold your money for nothing and less redemption downtime.

The money market funds often have repurchase agreements that are taxed at the state and local level but obviously more liquid. Am looking into the ETFs now.

Good luck to everyone!
oonchie
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I'd recommend searching for diamondnestegg on youtube. She has a bunch of very useful videos on how to purchase and where explaining step by step on how to do it.

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Aug 12, 2023 08:25 PM
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BalkiBartokomousAug 12, 2023 08:25 PM
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Quote from mojohnnybravo :
just exited from an ibond purchased May of 2022. might buy into these.
Yeah, I need to roll into something as well
Aug 12, 2023 09:39 PM
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sstinmanAug 12, 2023 09:39 PM
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Does anyone have information about trading an I-Bond for a Bill directly on the Treasury Direct website? Or must the process run through the cash-out wait for the transaction and then purchase the Bill once the money has cleared all the hurdles? It could take a couple weeks to clear it all out???
Aug 12, 2023 09:56 PM
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LyrradAug 12, 2023 09:56 PM
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Quote from sstinman :
Does anyone have information about trading an I-Bond for a Bill directly on the Treasury Direct website? Or must the process run through the cash-out wait for the transaction and then purchase the Bill once the money has cleared all the hurdles? It could take a couple weeks to clear it all out???
You could redeem to the "Zero-Percent Certificate of Indebtedness" and then purchase Bills with them.

Personally, I'd just redeem them to my external account and fund the purchase of Bills from the same account.

I usually have Savings Bond redemptions from TreasuryDirect available the next business day in my Fidelity brokerage account.
Aug 13, 2023 01:18 AM
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labboyproAug 13, 2023 01:18 AM
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Quote from sstinman :
Does anyone have information about trading an I-Bond for a Bill directly on the Treasury Direct website? Or must the process run through the cash-out wait for the transaction and then purchase the Bill once the money has cleared all the hurdles? It could take a couple weeks to clear it all out???
The I- Series will sell on the day you schedule it to. Money will be ACH to your checking account next banking day. Time it to the T-Bill auction's buy date, and the money will head back out same day. Sell 1 day earlier if you're worried or can't float the difference for 24 hours.
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Gambit57Aug 13, 2023 04:30 AM
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Quote from if200 :
Have learned so much on this site so am trying to return the favor with what I've learned that I don't see anyone else talking about.

The 4 week bill ordering opens tomorrow 8/8, the deadline to buy it is sometime Thursday 8/10 morning depending on where you are buying it and it settles on 8/15.

On TD Ameritrade, they take your money on the 10th (take it out of the money you can trade with when you hit purchase which can be as early as the 8th) and buy the bill on the 15th during time which you earn no interest. Thus the reason that I stopped buying 4 and 8 week bills at auction. Secondary markets settle the next day so often a better deal. Treasury direct does not take the money from your bank account till the day it settles and Vanguard keeps it in the settlement fund earning interest till the day it settles as well. Not sure about the other brokerage houses. Also, not sure if you rollover the t-bills how the time between redemption and the next auction works as far as any interest you are losing as that is often a week of interest as well.

FYI, if you do the math, 4 weeks for $10,000 usually gets you about $40 in interest for letting them hold your money for 5 weeks.

The Monday auctions for 3 months and six months settle on Thursday so much less time to hold your money for nothing and less redemption downtime.

The money market funds often have repurchase agreements that are taxed at the state and local level but obviously more liquid. Am looking into the ETFs now.

Good luck to everyone!
Thank you for this. I started looking into it after your comment and at least in case if Fidelity, the funds would still be earning the core position interest until the bill trade settles.
Although the funds will not be available to trade with so you accidentally won't use them for a different trade, they would still be earning the typical base rate that uninvested funds typically do. I found a reddit thread and also confirmed with a fidelity rep.

Just thought I'd leave this here in case anyone else was wondering about it .

Ref - https://www.reddit.com/r/fidelity..._content=2
Aug 13, 2023 05:41 AM
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mikek753sdAug 13, 2023 05:41 AM
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At Fidelity can matured 8 weeks TBill funds be used to buy 4 weeks TBill on the same day? as it's possible at TD
the 8 weeks TBill will mature on 08/15
the 4 weeks TBill settlement date also on the same 08/15

can matured Tbill be rolled over to another new TBill at Fidelity?

or does Fidelity will require to have the cash on the auction date?
which I don't have ...

can margin account offset above?
also will there be any margin fee for those 3-5 days at Fidelity ?
Aug 13, 2023 03:22 PM
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sstinmanAug 13, 2023 03:22 PM
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Quote from labboypro :
The I- Series will sell on the day you schedule it to. Money will be ACH to your checking account next banking day. Time it to the T-Bill auction's buy date, and the money will head back out same day. Sell 1 day earlier if you're worried or can't float the difference for 24 hours.
Does it really happen that quick, a couple of days to cash out of the I-Series? It took a couple of weeks for me to open the account and get it all squared away.
A new question, if a partially cash out of my I-series and leave behind $200 will I still be charged the 3 months interest penalty on the portion I take out?

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Aug 13, 2023 04:28 PM
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labboyproAug 13, 2023 04:28 PM
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Quote from sstinman :
Does it really happen that quick, a couple of days to cash out of the I-Series? It took a couple of weeks for me to open the account and get it all squared away.
A new question, if a partially cash out of my I-series and leave behind $200 will I still be charged the 3 months interest penalty on the portion I take out?
Yes, yes.
Aug 13, 2023 04:37 PM
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LyrradAug 13, 2023 04:37 PM
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Quote from mikek753 :
At Fidelity can matured 8 weeks TBill funds be used to buy 4 weeks TBill on the same day? as it's possible at TD
the 8 weeks TBill will mature on 08/15
the 4 weeks TBill settlement date also on the same 08/15

can matured Tbill be rolled over to another new TBill at Fidelity?

or does Fidelity will require to have the cash on the auction date?
which I don't have ...

can margin account offset above?
also will there be any margin fee for those 3-5 days at Fidelity ?
It's possible, though in a non-margin account you'd need the funds to place the auction order. To get around this, I've transferred in funds, placed the order and then transferred the funds out (to another Fidelity account). If I left the funds in the account they'd be locked between auction and settlement.

In a margin account there shouldn't generally be an issue or fees.
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MaroonGuitar7427Aug 13, 2023 04:39 PM
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Quote from labboypro :
Yes, yes.
got my ibond sale cash at my bank in 2 business days
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smartdealsAug 13, 2023 11:48 PM
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what a program do not make sense, transfer in, place order, transfer out...
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if200Aug 14, 2023 12:57 PM
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FYI, 2 year notes are getting very close to 5% on the secondary market. The next auction for the 2 year notes isn't till later in the month. A nice thing about the secondary market is that you can choose your maturation date so it doesn't have to be exactly 6 months, 1 year, 2 years, etc.
Last edited by if200 August 14, 2023 at 07:11 AM.
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smartdealsAug 14, 2023 07:07 PM
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today my 6mo t-bill order got 97.33319
its worse than published 97.325611
https://www.treasurydirect.gov/in...0814_2.pdf
can any expert there explain why is that? did Schwab eat the difference?
Aug 14, 2023 07:20 PM
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LyrradAug 14, 2023 07:20 PM
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Quote from smartdeals :
today my 6mo t-bill order got 97.33319
its worse than published 97.325611
https://www.treasurydirect.gov/in...0814_2.pdf
can any expert there explain why is that? did Schwab eat the difference?
Did you buy at auction? With the auction, you should get that price with the funds due on Thursday.

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labboyproAug 14, 2023 07:22 PM
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Quote from smartdeals :
today my 6mo t-bill order got 97.33319
its worse than published 97.325611
https://www.treasurydirect.gov/in...0814_2.pdf
can any expert there explain why is that? did Schwab eat the difference?
No. You did. It's an auction. You paid auction price. You will receive 100 for it at maturity.

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