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Costco Members: 77" LG OLED77A2PUA OLED 4K UHD Smart webOS TV (2022 Model)

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Costco Wholesale has for their Members: 77" LG OLED77A2PUA OLED 4K UHD Smart webOS TV (2022 Model) for $1499.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member brainman for finding this deal.

Note: A Costco Membership is required to purchase this item. Set up and installation NOT included.

Specs/Key Features:
  • Resolution: 3840x2160 (4K UHD)
  • Refresh Rate: 60Hz
  • Dolby Vision/HDR 10/Hybrid Log Gamma
  • Magic/Voice Control Remote
  • WiFi w/ Bluetooth 5.0
  • VESA Mount: 300x200mm
  • Dolby Atmos
  • Google Assistant/Amazon Alexa Voice Assistant Built-In
  • webOS Smart Platform
    • Inputs
      • 3x HDMI
      • 2x USB 2.0
      • 1x Ethernet
      • 1x RF Antenna
      • 1x Digital Optical Audio
Additional Savings:

Purchase multiple qualifying Costco Direct items on the same order and receive additional savings.
  • Buy 2, Save $100
  • Buy 3, Save $200
  • Buy 4, Save $300
  • Buy 5 or more, Save $400
Offer valid while supplies last. Online-Only. Pre-bundled item sets count as a single quantity for the purposes of this promotion; savings are already included in the bundled pricing.

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Written by citan359 | Staff

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Written by brainman
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Costco Wholesale has for their Members: 77" LG OLED77A2PUA OLED 4K UHD Smart webOS TV (2022 Model) for $1499.99. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member brainman for finding this deal.

Note: A Costco Membership is required to purchase this item. Set up and installation NOT included.

Specs/Key Features:
  • Resolution: 3840x2160 (4K UHD)
  • Refresh Rate: 60Hz
  • Dolby Vision/HDR 10/Hybrid Log Gamma
  • Magic/Voice Control Remote
  • WiFi w/ Bluetooth 5.0
  • VESA Mount: 300x200mm
  • Dolby Atmos
  • Google Assistant/Amazon Alexa Voice Assistant Built-In
  • webOS Smart Platform
    • Inputs
      • 3x HDMI
      • 2x USB 2.0
      • 1x Ethernet
      • 1x RF Antenna
      • 1x Digital Optical Audio
Additional Savings:

Purchase multiple qualifying Costco Direct items on the same order and receive additional savings.
  • Buy 2, Save $100
  • Buy 3, Save $200
  • Buy 4, Save $300
  • Buy 5 or more, Save $400
Offer valid while supplies last. Online-Only. Pre-bundled item sets count as a single quantity for the purposes of this promotion; savings are already included in the bundled pricing.

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Written by citan359 | Staff

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Written by brainman

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edrock200
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It's worth noting this is an A2, not A3.

As others have noted brightness and refresh rate of 60hz vs 120hz. For the average tv viewer, probably not noticable however depending on your sensitivity you may notice a judder effect on 24fps sources. This article explains it best but here is the base explanation:

"A 60Hz TV has trouble removing 24 fps judder because 60 isn't a multiple of 24. To display this type of content, a technique known as a "3:2 pulldown" is used. Basically, 12 of the 24 frames repeat three times, while the other 12 repeat twice, totaling 60 frames. Not everybody notices this, but it causes some scenes, notably panning shots, to appear juddery. However, 120Hz TVs have an advantage here because they can simply display each frame five times since 120 is a multiple of 24."

It also notes that some sources, such as Chromecast, will only output 60fps, so something else to keep in mind if you want to take full advantage of 120hz.

https://www.rtings.com/tv/learn/w...z-vs-120hz

*Edit* thanks dealbabydeal for pointing this out:
From RTINGS: "The LG A2 can remove judder from 24p sources, and you just need to enable Real Cinema."

Edit2 - even more useful info here. If I'm understanding correctly a 24fps source played through a device that supports frame rate matching at 24fps will eliminate judder. If it forces output at 60 you will still get judder https://slickdeals.net/f/16863020-lg-77-class-oled-a2-series-4k-uhd-oled-tv-1499?p=165323000#post165323000
Jcwillia1
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I've been an OLED denier for years. Thought they were ridiculously over priced for what they are.

Then I bought a 42" C2 for my computer and oh. My. God.

So pretty.
hanabie
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Not sure. I have one in a pretty bright room and it looks great.

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Aug 17, 2023 06:27 AM
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TomKansasCity68Aug 17, 2023 06:27 AM
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Quote from Jcwillia1 :
I've been an OLED denier for years. Thought they were ridiculously over priced for what they are.

Then I bought a 42" C2 for my computer and oh. My. God.

So pretty.
I own the 42" C2 as well and it's amazing. I replaced a C1 48" that was a bit too big.
Aug 17, 2023 07:02 AM
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thebowieAug 17, 2023 07:02 AM
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I have a c1 and a x90j and x950h. So very good Oled and top of the line led without mini-led from Sony. I would rather get a large mini-led over this if u can find one for a similar price. Unless your watching in a dark room and not gaming but you I think you can find better specs if you sacrifice the oled. Especially with the rise of mini-led.
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Aug 17, 2023 07:57 AM
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SDcl21Aug 17, 2023 07:57 AM
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I have a 65 inch C2 that is supposed to be delivered on Friday. Paid $1299 for it. Trying to decide if I should cancel and get this instead...
Aug 17, 2023 01:24 PM
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bobbylightAug 17, 2023 01:24 PM
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Quote from spydersdeals69 :
As a non-professional, but enthusiastic gamer, I can't imagine how awful 60hz would be at this size. Even on a 55" it's dramatically noticeable. If just basic TV is your thing, it will probably be okay.
What is pushing 4k and more than 60 fps? PS5? Series x? High end PC? I am genuinely asking. I haven't kept track of this.
Aug 17, 2023 02:05 PM
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lcz06Aug 17, 2023 02:05 PM
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Quote from Cornezy :
60hz so beware if you trying to use this for next gen consoles 120hz gaming.
That's a hard pass if this is 60hz
Aug 17, 2023 02:25 PM
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KnightshadeAug 17, 2023 02:25 PM
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Quote from bobbylight :
What is pushing 4k and more than 60 fps? PS5? Series x? High end PC? I am genuinely asking. I haven't kept track of this.
SOME current-gen console stuff, and even mid-range GPUs at this point- see below


Quote from kd_thedealman :
Seriously ? What percentage of people are even hooking their PCs, of any kind, to a 77 oled? It's probably much less than the 5% I guesstimate above. If your building a mid range gaming pc and tweaking all the settings down in the hopes to get more than 60fps AND you can tell the difference between a rock solid 60 or an inconsistent 90-120, then you're clearly not the average person I'm talking about here.
Have you not built a gaming PC in a few years or something?

Even mid-range GPUs can exceed 60fps without having to "tweak all the settings down"

You can exceed 60fps in 4k in lots of games, at very high or better settings, with even a 4070 on Nvidias side or a 6800XT on the AMD side... (and even some previous-gen cards in some titles like a 3070ti)



Quote from kd_thedealman :
You also claim that the difference is in responsiveness. The 4K 60 is already something like 11ms.
You're confusing two different types of measurements here. One way you can tell you're confused is the A2 has a refresh rate of 60Hz and input lag at 4k of about 11ms as you suggest... but the C2 has a refresh rate of 120Hz and input lag of...about 10ms in the same 4k mode. If the responsiveness I'm talking about worked the way you image one would be half of the other- it's not, because that's measuring something else.



Quote from kd_thedealman :
Don't care about "judder"
Then as someone else suggested, you've never experienced a display without it.

Once you do it's jarringly annoying to go backward. Again you often can work around this issue entirely if you can be very selective about your sources-- but not everyone can do that (because they're tied to one or more specific set-top sources due to cable/sat/a specific streaming device, etc)
Aug 17, 2023 03:50 PM
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freeskier98Aug 17, 2023 03:50 PM
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A2 is Trash.
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Aug 17, 2023 04:41 PM
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dealbabydealAug 17, 2023 04:41 PM
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From RTINGS: "The LG A2 can remove judder from 24p sources, and you just need to enable Real Cinema."

Source:
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews...d/settings
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Aug 17, 2023 05:22 PM
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edrock200
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Aug 17, 2023 05:22 PM
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Quote from RyanL :
Don't listen to this fool up above. He's just quoting shit and not understanding anything about it. If he had bothered looking up an actual review of this TV, he would discover that it has 24p judder free playback. YOU DO NOT NEED 120Hz TO PLAY BACK 24P CONTENT CORRECTLY. I've had several TVs over the years (some were pre-120Hz) that did judder-free playback. And BTW, 24P is really not 24 FPS, it's 23.97, I would like you to divide that into 120 LOL. You can still have 120 Hz and still have judder in the form of skipped frames if the TV has no film mode.
well I certainly didn't mean to offend or spread misinformation. A simple update with your factual information without the insults would have been nice. I don't understand why Slickdealers feel the need to do this. This is a venue for info sharing and help. I appreciate the info. Was not my intent to spread bad Intel.

Edit - seems we both were wrong depending on the scenario:
https://slickdeals.net/f/16863020-lg-77-class-oled-a2-series-4k-uhd-oled-tv-1499?p=165323000#post165323000

Judder won't happen from source that will frame rate match, will if it doesn't. This will not happen on a 120hz panel though:
https://slickdeals.net/f/16863020-lg-77-class-oled-a2-series-4k-uhd-oled-tv-1499?p=165323000#post165323000
Last edited by edrock200 August 17, 2023 at 09:47 PM.
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Aug 17, 2023 05:26 PM
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edrock200
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Aug 17, 2023 05:26 PM
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Quote from dealbabydeal :
From RTINGS: "The LG A2 can remove judder from 24p sources, and you just need to enable Real Cinema."

Source:
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews...d/settings [rtings.com]
thanks for pointing this out. Edited my orig post and gave you credit.
Aug 17, 2023 06:10 PM
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KnightshadeAug 17, 2023 06:10 PM
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Quote from dealbabydeal :
From RTINGS: "The LG A2 can remove judder from 24p sources, and you just need to enable Real Cinema."

Source:
https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews...d/settings

Sure.

That's not the issue.

The issue is it can't remove them from 60p and 60i sources.

Which is what many (but not all) set top boxes provide, with no option otherwise.



Specifically look at this section of rtings review:
Judder-Free 24p Yes
Judder-Free 24p via 60p No
Judder-Free 24p via 60i No

In contrast here's the same items on the 120Hz B2
Judder-Free 24p Yes
Judder-Free 24p via 60p Yes
Judder-Free 24p via 60i Yes


Those last 2 of the 3 items are where the A2 falls down on judder compared to a 120hz display.

If you ONLY plan to feed 24p sources from 24p native output (certain specific streaming boxes, but NOT all of them) or the built-in apps, this is not an issue for you.

If you expect to feed 60p sources from set up boxes you can't set to 24p output then it IS an issue on the A2.
Last edited by Knightshade August 17, 2023 at 11:16 AM.
Aug 17, 2023 06:48 PM
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slikkdealerAug 17, 2023 06:48 PM
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Got one. Excellent TV for the price and will exceed in performance to the TVs below. In addition great to buy from Costco. TV # 2 below(Vizio) was replaced under warranty at 2 years by Costco because it had dead pixels.

Moving up from

2012 65" Panasonic VT50 Plasma
2017 65" Vizio P65C1

The Plasma will be replaced. Vizio will stay as it's 4K and good for the bright room where it currently is.
Last edited by slikkdealer August 17, 2023 at 11:59 AM.
Aug 17, 2023 06:53 PM
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SDcl21Aug 17, 2023 06:53 PM
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Quote from Knightshade :
Sure.

That's not the issue.

The issue is it can't remove them from 60p and 60i sources.

Which is what many (but not all) set top boxes provide, with no option otherwise.



Specifically look at this section of rtings review:
Judder-Free 24p Yes
Judder-Free 24p via 60p No
Judder-Free 24p via 60i No

In contrast here's the same items on the 120Hz B2
Judder-Free 24p Yes
Judder-Free 24p via 60p Yes
Judder-Free 24p via 60i Yes


Those last 2 of the 3 items are where the A2 falls down on judder compared to a 120hz display.

If you ONLY plan to feed 24p sources from 24p native output (certain specific streaming boxes, but NOT all of them) or the built-in apps, this is not an issue for you.

If you expect to feed 60p sources from set up boxes you can't set to 24p output then it IS an issue on the A2.
This is super confusing to me since I am not very knowledgeable on this matter. For someone who is mainly using this for 4K physical blu rays, is this an issue at all? Besides brightness, would there be any benefits to the C2 vs this? I don't plan to do any gaming at all. Will probably use this for 4K discs 70% of the time, streaming + some football the rest of the time. But movie watching (via physical discs) will be my primary use. If anyone has any advice, Id really appreciate it.
Aug 17, 2023 07:44 PM
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FALAug 17, 2023 07:44 PM
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Quote from Jcwillia1 :
I've been an OLED denier for years. Thought they were ridiculously over priced for what they are.

Then I bought a 42" C2 for my computer and oh. My. God.

So pretty.

how so?
LED IPS/VA TV have been $400 since 2014. My 2014 $400 Sharp 65 inch works amazing 4-8 hrs a day, zero burn in, zero dead pixels, the kicker is it was a floor model.


I doubt OLED has that kind of longevity

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Lukkie
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Quote from slikkdealer :
Got one. Excellent TV for the price and will exceed in performance to the TVs below. In addition great to buy from Costco. TV # 2 below(Vizio) was replaced under warranty at 2 years by Costco because it had dead pixels.

Moving up from

2012 65" Panasonic VT50 Plasma
2017 65" Vizio P65C1

The Plasma will be replaced. Vizio will stay as it's 4K and good for the bright room where it currently is.
Wow similar trajectory as me. 55 panny plasma to 65 Vizio same years. You are pushing me to get in on this oled so we can be tv twins for life lol.

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