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Seagate Exos 18TB **$169.99 ** Hard Drive *Recertified * serverpartdeals

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Seagate Exos X18 or X20 Enterprise Hard Drive 18TB $9.44/ TB

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serverpartdeals.com provides the : 2 Year Limited Period Warranty

There are two models:

Model Number x20 : ST18000NM003D Link [serverpartdeals.com]
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Model Number x18 : ST18000NM000J Link [serverpartdeals.com]
Data Sheet on x18 ST18000NM000J [seagate.com]

No tax the last time I bought ( California )

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Seagate Exos X18 or X20 Enterprise Hard Drive 18TB $9.44/ TB

Price dropped to $169.99

serverpartdeals.com provides the : 2 Year Limited Period Warranty

There are two models:

Model Number x20 : ST18000NM003D Link [serverpartdeals.com]
Data Sheet on x20 ST18000NM003D Link [seagate.com]

Model Number x18 : ST18000NM000J Link [serverpartdeals.com]
Data Sheet on x18 ST18000NM000J [seagate.com]

No tax the last time I bought ( California )

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eversavage
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Great packaging,
Drives get stamp/marked Recertified , also gets a new label to what appeared to be from Seagate .
SMART data gets zero out..

They are louder than traditional drives.. worth the buy.. $9.74/ TB

Satisfaction Guarantee: Return for refund within 30 days of package reception date.

SO test the drive as soon as you get it..
I used the Seagate software that creates a bootable VM (tinycore) with the SeaTools GUI
LInk [seagate.com]
Short test and Then long test. (27 hours)EEK!
Last edited by eversavage August 23, 2023 at 07:30 PM.
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megablank
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Quote from eversavage :
Great packaging,
Drives get stamp/marked Recertified , also gets a new label to what appeared to be from Seagate .
SMART data gets zero out..

They are louder than traditional drives.. worth the buy.. $9.74/ TB

Satisfaction Guarantee: Return for refund within 30 days of package reception date.

SO test the drive as soon as you get it..
I used the Seagate software that creates a bootable VM (tinycore) with the SeaTools GUI
LInk [seagate.com]
Short test and Then long test. (27 hours)EEK!
Does the long test read and write every sector? Why run short as well as long?
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S4gunn
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Quote from megablank :
Does the long test read and write every sector? Why run short as well as long?
The SHORT SMART test will pickup most issues off the bat. No reason to run a long test if the SHORT test tells you that you need to RMA the drive.
LONG test checks the entire disk surface. 18TB is a lot to drive to that takes a while.

In my experience buying used drives, 2 of the bad ones I've had to RMA had defects picked up by the SHORT test. The long test uncovered an issue with the last one so IMO, its worth the extra hassle. Personal Sample size: 150-200 drives.

PS. I do this for ALL drives (new/used) I've bought. SW exists in both linux (smartmontools) and windows (HDDSCAN)
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Quote from megablank :
Does the long test read and write every sector? Why run short as well as long?
The smart test are just surface scans, that will read but not write.
the short test takes about 3 mins while the long took me over 27hrs.

A more comprehensive test would running badblocks with "Read-write test (destructive)"
Link [archlinux.org]

In windows you can run "H2testw" (also 27hrs for 18tb drive).. writes and then reads those files.

For new or used drives... I like to test them within the 30 return window. You never know if there is a bad sector and where it is located at. 18TB is a lot of information/ data. HDD can fail at anytime but at least I can say I tested them before using them with live data. I have several copies of my most important data.
Last edited by eversavage August 24, 2023 at 09:05 AM.
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Rand4
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I recently bought a seagate ironwolf pro.
Drive is slow and loud.
not as bad as the legendary quantum fireball 5.25 (anyone else remember those)

but terrible compared to a... toshiba mg10 etc.

Copying from a toshiba 5tb to the new 16TB seagate was 87-150MB/s 16 hours
doing same test to MG10 20TB took 10.75 hours.

Not sure why the seagate was so slow it would burst up to near 200MB but never sustain.

The MG10 was 187-200MB for decent chunks of time.

I had to doublecheck to make sure the seagate was CMR not shingled.

based on that experience I'd hesitate to buy a seagate exos.
Last edited by Rand4 August 24, 2023 at 10:24 AM.
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supernoman
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Is there a noise difference between x18 and x20?
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WhoIsThat
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Got this a few days ago for a higher price. Do they price match?

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Quote from Rand4 :
I recently bought a seagate ironwolf pro.
Drive is slow and loud.
not as bad as the legendary quantum fireball 5.25 (anyone else remember those)

but terrible compared to a... toshiba mg10 etc.

Copying from a toshiba 5tb to the new 16TB seagate was 87-150MB/s 16 hours
doing same test to MG10 20TB took 10.75 hours.

Not sure why the seagate was so slow it would burst up to near 200MB but never sustain.

The MG10 was 187-200MB for decent chunks of time.

I had to doublecheck to make sure the seagate was CMR not shingled.

based on that experience I'd hesitate to buy a seagate exos.
Meanwhile I have a 5 of them, 3 for over 3 years. No issues and reported speeds.

Both of our accounts are kinda moot, though. No manufacturer is free from defects. So only a decent data set/ number of instances really matters.
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JesusFreak
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Quote from eversavage :
Great packaging,
Drives get stamp/marked Recertified , also gets a new label to what appeared to be from Seagate .
SMART data gets zero out..

They are louder than traditional drives.. worth the buy.. $9.74/ TB

Satisfaction Guarantee: Return for refund within 30 days of package reception date.

SO test the drive as soon as you get it..
I used the Seagate software that creates a bootable VM (tinycore) with the SeaTools GUI
LInk [seagate.com]
Short test and Then long test. (27 hours)EEK!
All of this, and install crystaldiskinfo to run on boot for pending failure alerts.
Aug 24, 2023
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WiseStranger600
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Quote from eversavage :
Great packaging,
Drives get stamp/marked Recertified , also gets a new label to what appeared to be from Seagate .
SMART data gets zero out..

They are louder than traditional drives.. worth the buy.. $9.74/ TB

Satisfaction Guarantee: Return for refund within 30 days of package reception date.

SO test the drive as soon as you get it..
I used the Seagate software that creates a bootable VM (tinycore) with the SeaTools GUI
LInk [seagate.com]
Short test and Then long test. (27 hours)EEK!
Crazy idea here, but maybe you should ask them...
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fortunzfavor
Aug 24, 2023
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The x14 12tb is $107.77 ($8.98/tb), almost as low as the $105 for the x18 12tb last black friday.

Does this bode well for this black friday?
Aug 24, 2023
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ppt123
Aug 24, 2023
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i bought the x20 18tb on the auction site for $18x. It said refurbished but come with 5 years warranty, sealed static bag, 0 hours.
Aug 25, 2023
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nfs2192
Aug 25, 2023
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These or New MDD drives? Anyone have experience with MDD thinking of getting some.
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MWink
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Quote from Rand4 :
I recently bought a seagate ironwolf pro.
Drive is slow and loud.
not as bad as the legendary quantum fireball 5.25 (anyone else remember those)

but terrible compared to a... toshiba mg10 etc.

Copying from a toshiba 5tb to the new 16TB seagate was 87-150MB/s 16 hours
doing same test to MG10 20TB took 10.75 hours.

Not sure why the seagate was so slow it would burst up to near 200MB but never sustain.

The MG10 was 187-200MB for decent chunks of time.

I had to doublecheck to make sure the seagate was CMR not shingled.

based on that experience I'd hesitate to buy a seagate exos.
Pretty sure the Quantum Fireballs were 3.5" (and some were horrendously unreliable). Are you sure you're not talking about the Quantum Bigfoot? I think I still have one of those somewhere.

I can't comment on the Ironwolf Pro but the Exos should have sequential read/write speeds of ~150-275MB/s (similar to the WD Ultrastar).

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Quote from ppt123 :
i bought the x20 18tb on the auction site for $18x. It said refurbished but come with 5 years warranty, sealed static bag, 0 hours.
Did they charge tax? Wonder how they handle the 5 yr warranty? 🤔

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