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Ubiquiti Unifi Dream Router &UDR-US) back in stock at $199

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https://store.ui.com/us/en/collec...oducts/udr
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Aug 25, 2023 02:35 PM
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redhandeddenialAug 25, 2023 02:35 PM
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Quote from datapusher :
Been out of the market for a while is this a replacing the old cloud keys + switch? Sounds like the controller is onboard

Yep the controller is integrated. Have one at the rents as they dont need more muscle that the UDMP has ( i run one of those elsewhere). Both have been pretty good once the UDMP got more than a few FW updates on it.
Aug 25, 2023 02:47 PM
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NickB3364Aug 25, 2023 02:47 PM
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My setup is about 5 years old, and my USG already has one dead WAN port. Worth it to move to this? I have 2 APs and 1 switch, and the switch also connects to a nanoststion because my neighbor and I share a network. So there's a decent amount of traffic that will go back and forth.
Aug 25, 2023 02:49 PM
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pechangoAug 25, 2023 02:49 PM
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Quote from NickB3364 :
My setup is about 5 years old, and my USG already has one dead WAN port. Worth it to move to this? I have 2 APs and 1 switch, and the switch also connects to a nanoststion because my neighbor and I share a network. So there's a decent amount of traffic that will go back and forth.
After reading some of the stuff in this thread then doing my own quick research, it does appear the basic dream machine has a few issues that haven't been fully addressed.

I'm still running a USG wtihout any dead ports (can you just switch to the other one?) but if I was upgrading i'd go up to UDM pro at minimum.
Aug 25, 2023 02:51 PM
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NickB3364Aug 25, 2023 02:51 PM
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Quote from pechango :
After reading some of the stuff in this thread then doing my own quick research, it does appear the basic dream machine has a few issues that haven't been fully addressed.

I'm still running a USG wtihout any dead ports (can you just switch to the other one?) but if I was upgrading i'd go up to UDM pro at minimum.
Ya, I just use the other ports and it's fine. It also randomly died a few months ago, but I was able to just reflash it and get it back up and running.

I'd like a UDM pro as well, but I don't really want an item intended to be racked just sitting on my desk. I'm also afraid of the noise from it. Does it have fans that sound like they're about to go into orbit if it gets warm?
Aug 25, 2023 02:54 PM
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BrettL5675Aug 25, 2023 02:54 PM
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Quote from mmv :
limited to ~700 even with all the security features off... limitation of hardware.
Yeah that's not true. I hit 900-950 with my AT&T 1000 internet with no issues.

There are several forum posts and reddits helping end users tweak their settings and hitting 900+

With full security features it can hit 850 with all threat tools turned on. It's a case of the end user not configuring properly. Ubiquiti is pro/prosumer for a reason. Also these threat IDS tools are way more advanced than any all in one consumer router.
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Aug 25, 2023 02:55 PM
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BrettL5675Aug 25, 2023 02:55 PM
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Quote from NickB3364 :
My setup is about 5 years old, and my USG already has one dead WAN port. Worth it to move to this? I have 2 APs and 1 switch, and the switch also connects to a nanoststion because my neighbor and I share a network. So there's a decent amount of traffic that will go back and forth.
Depends on "Decent amount". If you aren't maxing bandwidth between point to point there's no reason outside of the integrated controller. I ran USG for years on gigabit internet and it worked great. It's a prosumer device, it can handle some traffic
Aug 25, 2023 03:18 PM
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PeteyTheStrikerAug 25, 2023 03:18 PM
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LOL no way is this worth $200 this was barely acceptable at $80 when it first launched. Over wifi it barely broke 700Mbps to a client with all its standard features running, when you gut it and turn off all the security it can break 800Mbps just barely.

Quote from jtree1 :
Are these routers really worth it vs a TP-Link Deco or Linksys Atlas Pro or Velop Mesh Router?
This is the equivalent of a $80-$100 Tp-Link router for most house hold users, when it comes to Wireless 5/2.4 performance.. If you compare it to lets say the Costco TP-Link AXE7800 thats been around $200 on sale, its not comparable at all, its like putting up a tricycle against a car when it comes to performance. In most cases high end consumer gear outclasses Ubiquiti stuff and thats the norm. So unless you like to tinker and constantly look at your network dashboards nothing Ubiquiti has can keep up with most consumer gear on a price to performance ratio, you would have to spend a lot more money to get even close.
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Aug 25, 2023 03:42 PM
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Aug 25, 2023 03:42 PM
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Replaced my TP-Link Deco with this + two U6 Lites.

Don't scour Reddit/Slickdeals for networking advice, go read the Evan Mccann Tech blog. That's a guy with significantly more experience in this field and his recommendation is either Unifi or Eero -- which even tho I'm just a random dude on Slickdeals I agree with. I have a Unifi set up for my parents and have an Eero 6+ set I bring with me b/c I move regularly. I would happily get one of these + a U6 Mesh if I didn't get that Eero set on Prime day for ~$50. In the 1.5yr of having that Unifi set up only once has it bugged out for 30 min, go on Reddit tho and people with, likely legitimate, prior experiences from 5+ yrs back still complain about the stability. They've clearly come far from where they were. Absolutely love my Unifi set up, actually makes doing stuff like Homebridge or opening ports for Plex/Xbox easy. Also the $30 Wifi cameras are killer for Unifi Protect (even though I have HKSV), think they upped the price to $70 tho which is a shame.
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Aug 25, 2023 04:19 PM
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turuncuAug 25, 2023 04:19 PM
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Quote from BrettL5675 :
Yeah that's not true. I hit 900-950 with my AT&T 1000 internet with no issues.

There are several forum posts and reddits helping end users tweak their settings and hitting 900+

With full security features it can hit 850 with all threat tools turned on. It's a case of the end user not configuring properly. Ubiquiti is pro/prosumer for a reason. Also these threat IDS tools are way more advanced than any all in one consumer router.
Hi Do you have a specific post? I just did a quick search and all I find was people returning the units due to speed cap. I have just upgraded to fiber and do not have full speed and now this makes sense. Appricate the help.
Aug 25, 2023 04:21 PM
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pechangoAug 25, 2023 04:21 PM
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Quote from PeteyTheStriker :
LOL no way is this worth $200 this was barely acceptable at $80 when it first launched. Over wifi it barely broke 700Mbps to a client with all its standard features running, when you gut it and turn off all the security it can break 800Mbps just barely.



This is the equivalent of a $80-$100 Tp-Link router for most house hold users, when it comes to Wireless 5/2.4 performance.. If you compare it to lets say the Costco TP-Link AXE7800 thats been around $200 on sale, its not comparable at all, its like putting up a tricycle against a car when it comes to performance. In most cases high end consumer gear outclasses Ubiquiti stuff and thats the norm. So unless you like to tinker and constantly look at your network dashboards nothing Ubiquiti has can keep up with most consumer gear on a price to performance ratio, you would have to spend a lot more money to get even close.
Just note, and I haven't dove into all the technical details, but most of these prosumer devices won't typically allow any one client to eat up every bit of available bandwidth. I have gig service, hardwired clients can get gig speeds, but wifi devices get capped around 250-300mbps individually and I think it's by design (no, I don't have any rules or any weird wifi configurations). Every unifi installation i've done has been this way too, which I why I say I think it's by design.

So while your $80 Tplink from Target will do so, these typically don't from my experience.
Aug 25, 2023 04:27 PM
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ranovaAug 25, 2023 04:27 PM
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Quote from BrettL5675 :
Yeah that's not true. I hit 900-950 with my AT&T 1000 internet with no issues.

There are several forum posts and reddits helping end users tweak their settings and hitting 900+

With full security features it can hit 850 with all threat tools turned on. It's a case of the end user not configuring properly. Ubiquiti is pro/prosumer for a reason. Also these threat IDS tools are way more advanced than any all in one consumer router.
please provide proof. I had an early access UDR and i had to RMA it and got the final build - both would top out between 700-800 Mbps (with all the security features turned off) and then sometimes completely crash the wifi network forcing it to restart. UDR frustrated me so much, I sold it, my U6 Enterprise, and the switch and just bought a Deco wifi 6E and I can top out at 1gbps over wifi 6E without issue.
Aug 25, 2023 04:38 PM
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TimlessAug 25, 2023 04:38 PM
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Quote from pechango :
Just note, and I haven't dove into all the technical details, but most of these prosumer devices won't typically allow any one client to eat up every bit of available bandwidth. I have gig service, hardwired clients can get gig speeds, but wifi devices get capped around 250-300mbps individually and I think it's by design (no, I don't have any rules or any weird wifi configurations). Every unifi installation i've done has been this way too, which I why I say I think it's by design.

So while your $80 Tplink from Target will do so, these typically don't from my experience.
I'm sure the people doing the testing would turn all that stuff off.

And why would they cap the speed by default if nobody else is using it?
Aug 25, 2023 05:06 PM
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pechangoAug 25, 2023 05:06 PM
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Quote from Timless :
I'm sure the people doing the testing would turn all that stuff off.

And why would they cap the speed by default if nobody else is using it?
This is just my theory.

At home, historically, you would only have 1-2 devices attempting to eat up all available bandwidth so those types of devices didn't care. In the prosumer realm (think small business, where it originated), you could have multiple devices at a time vying for bandwidth at any one time. Since it can't predict, it just simply limits any one client from taking all bandwidth in hopes that it can still supply bandwidth should another client(s) need it.

Again, that's my theory. I know you can do this with bandwidth capping (I already do with 2 of my networks, but not my main) but that's not what i'm referring to. I think it's inherent, but I could be wrong. My AP has a gig port and is capable of 1.7gbps speeds (on 5ghz) but at any given time I can only see upwards of 300mbps per client. The only other test i've attempted is 2 wireless clients doing speed tests and they both still get about 300mbps max, which somewhat supports my theory.
Aug 25, 2023 05:23 PM
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topchoAug 25, 2023 05:23 PM
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Quote from UniqueSoda2365 :
Hows this compare to a pfsense box? I have a HP SFF that i plan on putting pfsense on - but maybe for the right price ill go dream machine.

Already have 2 Unifi APs.
Not comparable to Pfsense. I run PFSense on Unifi. PFSense is much more powerful and customizable. Unifi is arguable more user friendly.

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Aug 25, 2023 05:27 PM
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Quote from pechango :
This is just my theory.... but at any given time I can only see upwards of 300mbps per client.
Naaa... more likely limitations of the devices and/or signal quality.

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