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FIRMAN 3200/4000W Electric Start Dual Fuel Inverter Generator (Refurbished)

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FirmanPowerEquipment via eBay has FIRMAN 3200/4000W Electric Start Dual Fuel Inverter Generator (WH03242F, Refurbished) on sale for $319.99 when you apply promo code LABORDAYTWENTY at checkout. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member drew6666 for sharing this deal.

Note: This Certified Refurbished product comes with a 2-year warranty serviced by Allstate.

Features:
  • Runs on Gasoline or Propane Fuel
  • Electric & Recoil Start
  • Noise Level: 57 Decibel
  • 9 Hour Run Time
  • CO Alert System (Carbon Monoxide Warning and Shutdown)
  • 193cc dual fuel engine with low oil shut off and cast iron sleeve
  • 1.8 gal tank provides 10hrs of run-time. Propane tank not included
  • Equipped with PGMA G300 CO shutdown
  • RV ready multi feature control panel with covered outlets
  • Less than 3% Low THD-Clean power
  • 5.5″ Heavy Duty Wheels and Folding Handle

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Written by oceanlake
  • About this Deal:
    • See the forum thread for additional discussion of this deal.
  • Condition Notes:
    • This product has been REFURBISHED to exacting specifications by FIRMAN technicians. Certified to work as new. May have cosmetic blemishes.

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FirmanPowerEquipment via eBay has FIRMAN 3200/4000W Electric Start Dual Fuel Inverter Generator (WH03242F, Refurbished) on sale for $319.99 when you apply promo code LABORDAYTWENTY at checkout. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member drew6666 for sharing this deal.

Note: This Certified Refurbished product comes with a 2-year warranty serviced by Allstate.

Features:
  • Runs on Gasoline or Propane Fuel
  • Electric & Recoil Start
  • Noise Level: 57 Decibel
  • 9 Hour Run Time
  • CO Alert System (Carbon Monoxide Warning and Shutdown)
  • 193cc dual fuel engine with low oil shut off and cast iron sleeve
  • 1.8 gal tank provides 10hrs of run-time. Propane tank not included
  • Equipped with PGMA G300 CO shutdown
  • RV ready multi feature control panel with covered outlets
  • Less than 3% Low THD-Clean power
  • 5.5″ Heavy Duty Wheels and Folding Handle

Editor's Notes

Written by oceanlake
  • About this Deal:
    • See the forum thread for additional discussion of this deal.
  • Condition Notes:
    • This product has been REFURBISHED to exacting specifications by FIRMAN technicians. Certified to work as new. May have cosmetic blemishes.

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Loudog504
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Hard to say if 4-5% negative, based on listed reviews, is good or bad not knowing how many units are going out. Most people don't leave good reviews but you can be certain people with bad experiences will.

Roughly half of those negative reviews were people not reading the description complaining about accessories not being included or shipping issues. But the other half were people with legit issues of broken parts, DOA, dirty, etc...

I don't think its much to be concerned about . If you figure only 25% of people leave feedback when they have a positive experience and almost 100% leave it when they have bad experience it really doesnt scale out to be that bad for a "refurbished" product.

I also wonder how many of these are costco returns for people who got them for a hurricane, never used it, then returned them or people who only needed it for a day then returned it.

I remember seeing people returning these to costco after a hurricane scare a year or 2 ago and i asked if they would sell me one for a discount lol. I was told they send them right back to the manufacturer.
drew6666
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I posted it as it was buried in the other post for the less powerful one. The one that this morning went out of stock & I posted that it came back in stock.

Just sharing the deal so people are aware it's out there. I purchased this one and don't care other than to spread the word & deal.

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Aug 31, 2023 08:17 PM
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homer-56kAug 31, 2023 08:17 PM
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What do you all recommend as a charger to keep starter charged?
Aug 31, 2023 08:42 PM
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ek9cuscoAug 31, 2023 08:42 PM
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dang.. should i buy this refurb and return the one i got from costco?
Aug 31, 2023 09:29 PM
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TL88Aug 31, 2023 09:29 PM
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Quote from spydersdeals69 :
Somewhat similar experience here, but with a mower. Left the same old gas in it for 4 years, never added stabilizer, never once started it in hard winters. (Temps here range from -10 to 110F) Still fired up every spring just fine. Finally appeared to croak this year, but I dropped the carb bowl, cleaned it out and 5 minutes later it was running fine again. Since I had it out, I changed the oil, replaced the plug, drained and changed the gas, and put a new air filter in. I guess no electric mower for me for another decade. Lol.

No idea how paranoia gets spread so easily.
Because what happens to some people isn't what happens to everyone. There are factors that contribute to how fast and how badly this happens. How much humidity you have in the area. Ethanol/no ethanol. How tightly sealed the components are.

Super dry climate/garage kept stuff isn't going to have the same outcomes as someone who stores stuff in an outdoor unsealed shed in a place with 85-100% humidity daily.

Also weird you say you left "same old gas in it" for 4 years (as if it sat for 4 years).
Aug 31, 2023 10:05 PM
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capn_pantelonesAug 31, 2023 10:05 PM
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Quote from Tourist1292 :
The charger should be easy to get aftermarket. The original charger is very convenient though as you don't need to take out the battery to charge it. I only plug it in for a couple hours every 6 months or so. That would make sure the electric starter functional when needed.

Mine also comes with a protective cover.
Anybody know the specs for the charger, assuming 12v, what amperage and size barrell connector? I've researched with Google and Amazon and see a lot of general 12v/1A chargers out there. Thanks!
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Aug 31, 2023 10:09 PM
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drew6666
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Aug 31, 2023 10:09 PM
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Quote from capn_pantelones :
Anybody know the specs for the charger, assuming 12v, what amperage and size barrell connector? I've researched with Google and Amazon and see a lot of general 12v/1A chargers out there. Thanks!
Trying to find the same thing, have a NOCO trickle charger as a backup option. Plugging right into the gen panel would be nice.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/35483374...101224.m-1
Last edited by drew6666 August 31, 2023 at 03:21 PM.
Aug 31, 2023 10:14 PM
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swoltcAug 31, 2023 10:14 PM
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Quote from Gasman714 :
Yes with the purchase of NG regulator and NG quick disconnect flex hose.

I bought this same refurbished unit and converted it to use Natural Gas.
Any further info on how to convert.?
Just replace the propane one?
Need bigger hose or just less power ? Thx
Aug 31, 2023 10:23 PM
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capn_pantelonesAug 31, 2023 10:23 PM
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Quote from prsa01 :
Is this the size necessary for the startup draw of a std forced air natural gas furnace or would the smaller ones posted previous suffice?

Thanks
I think the 4000w peak on this genset will be fine. Blower motors vary, but I installed an EZ Generator Switch on my furance last year and when I ran a test with a Kill-A-Watt, know mine is 600 running watts. For general reference, I believe the furance is 48K BTU. I'm not exactly sure of the startup factor, maybe 2x, so you'd need 1200w at peak, which the smaller capacity Firmans recently featured would handle. Also, if you don't have a generator transfer switch into your panel, consider the EZ switch here. The install was pretty straightforward. https://a.co/d/cqrRUrp
Last edited by capn_pantelones August 31, 2023 at 03:26 PM.

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Aug 31, 2023 10:32 PM
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capn_pantelonesAug 31, 2023 10:32 PM
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Quote from drew6666 :
Trying to find the same thing, have a NOCO trickle charger as a backup option. Plugging right into the gen panel would be nice.

https://www.ebay.com/itm/35483374...101224.m-1
Thanks. I feel like there's a small industry on knowing the specs, attributing to a certain product, then blurring-out the output specs on the product pics so you can't shop around. I'm guessing this is a $10 item once we have the right specs. I also have a few Battery Tenders and Noco chargers and usually the amps determine the charging speed. I'm thinking 3-5A is probably the sweet spot for a smaller UPS/tractor battery like this.
Last edited by capn_pantelones August 31, 2023 at 03:36 PM.
Sep 01, 2023 12:06 AM
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wwglenSep 01, 2023 12:06 AM
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Quote from gla17624 :
What do you all recommend as a charger to keep starter charged?
Basically any 12VDC (13V) wall wart with 0.5A to 1.0A rating with the proper size plug.

You can also find them on eBay for about $10. They just don't have the auto off that the OEM has.

Just don't leave it on for more than a couple hours.
Sep 01, 2023 12:28 AM
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BrainDocSep 01, 2023 12:28 AM
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Most of my power-outages are thunderstorm-related so does anyone have a recommendation for a cover so this could be used out in the rain?
Last edited by BrainDoc September 1, 2023 at 12:04 PM.
Sep 01, 2023 12:30 AM
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wwglenSep 01, 2023 12:30 AM
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Quote from seoultrain :
How do you hook this up to serve as backup power for a house? Can you use the NEMA TT-30R on this with a breaker interlock?
Yes, but you would need one of the RV adaptors that convert the TT-30R to a L30-14P or whichever input your interlock setup has.

It needs to jump the two legs together. It will power all the 120VAC, but will not power any 240VAC circuits. To be safe, turn all the 240VAC circuit breakers off.
Sep 01, 2023 01:19 AM
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CaleoSep 01, 2023 01:19 AM
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Quote from rdol :
I bought this refurbished unit from eBay about 3 months ago and was very pleased with the quality. I recently had to use it for about a 10 hour power outage and it worked like a charm. This unit arrived with 0 hours on it. It was essentially brand new
My W02981F from the other deal just came today, it didn't show any hours on the meter... but it was manufactured in early 2019 and clearly had some use (and had some quite dark residual oil). The hour meter can be reset.

Edit: Pulled the trigger on this 3200/4000W after receiving a bad 2900/3200W unit.

Here's hoping this one's good - I'd kind of regretted not going for this dual fuel unit after it came up in the comments on the other deal. One thing I'm noticing after having had hands on the 2900W unit is that this WH03242 has protective boots over the power switches which suggests more robust construction.

The W02981 (2900W) feels pretty good overall though - especially considering the one I received was manufactured in early 2019, and clearly had gotten some sun based on the yellowing of some of the original stickers - most seem to have been replaced or were still like-new.
Last edited by Caleo August 31, 2023 at 08:32 PM.
Sep 01, 2023 04:28 AM
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spydersdeals69Sep 01, 2023 04:28 AM
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Quote from TL88 :
Because what happens to some people isn't what happens to everyone. There are factors that contribute to how fast and how badly this happens. How much humidity you have in the area. Ethanol/no ethanol. How tightly sealed the components are.

Super dry climate/garage kept stuff isn't going to have the same outcomes as someone who stores stuff in an outdoor unsealed shed in a place with 85-100% humidity daily.

Also weird you say you left "same old gas in it" for 4 years (as if it sat for 4 years).
I agree with all you said. In my case, this mower was in a non insulated shed, subject to -10 to 110 degree temps. Yes, same fuel for four years, all gas came from the same can. Regular old gas, nothing special, not even premium. All I was getting at was that, while not everyone will be as lucky as I have been, certainly not every single mower, generator, etc, is going to gum up 5 seconds after the gas gets turned off as some claim.
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MichaelM3467Sep 01, 2023 01:04 PM
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Quote from hottoys2012 :
not true, I left the same regular ethanol containing unleaded gas in a portable generator, running it once every 6 months on average for short amounts of time, never changing out that same gas and it still starts fine,

however I just ran it dry, changed the oil, added some sea foam to some fresh ethanol free gas, and should be set for another 2 years. these carbs on these things don't gum up nearly as bad or easily as people say. you have to wonder, if people are just quoting google, or actually had a carb gum up in such a short amount of time.
You are correct that ethanol doesn't cause clogging, BUT ethanol does absorb water I worked for a fuel company and had to monitor all 12k tanks for leakage, water and what not. In humid areas a bad pipe fitting can slowly allow the water in the air to enter the gas. At some point the ethanol with phase separate with the water and fall to the bottom of the tank.

That said every state has different rules on ethanol in gas. In general you can't go over the limit but some states are more laxed. Ethanol is cheaper whole sale so the company made more money with higher percentages of Ethanol. Sometimes the mixers would have issues and feed too much ethanol. In some states its no big deal. you reset the system, see if the issue is resolved, if not you shut it down until a tech gets called out for some other issue or maintenance.

Some states have massive fines if the ethanol levels are even slightly over the limit. If there is any issue we just shut down the ethanol immediately. It changes the octane slightly so not great but better than paying the massive fines.

The point is just because you used ethanol gas doesn't mean you have a lot of ethanol in it. Sometimes you just get lucky and get all gas, which would have a lower octane but not enough to make a difference in small engines.

In dryer climates you can leave ethanol fuel in what ever for ever. But in more humid areas the fuel can slowly absorb moisture and cause corrosion or other issues. What works for you in your state/climate may not work for others.

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Sep 01, 2023 01:06 PM
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MichaelM3467Sep 01, 2023 01:06 PM
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Quote from spydersdeals69 :
I agree with all you said. In my case, this mower was in a non insulated shed, subject to -10 to 110 degree temps. Yes, same fuel for four years, all gas came from the same can. Regular old gas, nothing special, not even premium. All I was getting at was that, while not everyone will be as lucky as I have been, certainly not every single mower, generator, etc, is going to gum up 5 seconds after the gas gets turned off as some claim.
that is crazy I just replied to someone else with a similar message then that you replied to. LOL.
Last edited by MichaelM3467 September 1, 2023 at 06:33 AM.

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