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FIRMAN W02981F 3200/2900 Watt Recoil Start Inverter Generator (Refurbished)

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Update: This popular deal is still available. The coupon code LABORDAYTWENTY will expire by 11:59 PM Pacific Time on September 4, 2023 and has a limit of 2 uses max.

firmanpowerequipment via eBay has FIRMAN W02981F 3200/2900 Watt Recoil Start Inverter Generator (Refurbished) on sale for $239.99 when you apply coupon code LABORDAYTWENTY. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member Canyon-skier for finding this deal.

Features / Specs:
  • 3200 starting watts and 2900 running watts
  • Power Rating: 2.9 kW
  • Power Source: Gasoline
  • Items Included: User Manual, Quick Reference Guide
  • Year Manufactured: 2021
  • MPN: W02981F
  • Item Length: 23.2 Inches
  • Noise Level: 58dB
  • Type: Inverter Portable Generator
  • Tank Capacity: 1.8
  • Maximum Power: 3.2 kW
  • Assembly Required: No
  • Manufacturer Warranty: 3 Months
  • Item Height: 17.9 Inches
  • Voltage: 120V
  • Application: Construction, Home Backup, Recreation, Tailgating
  • Item Weight: 84lbs
  • Item Width: 17.8 Inches

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Written by jimmytx | Staff
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  • Condition Notes:
    • Per the product page listing: This product has been REFURBISHED to exacting specifications by FIRMAN technicians. Certified to work as new. May have cosmetic blemishes.

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Update: This popular deal is still available. The coupon code LABORDAYTWENTY will expire by 11:59 PM Pacific Time on September 4, 2023 and has a limit of 2 uses max.

firmanpowerequipment via eBay has FIRMAN W02981F 3200/2900 Watt Recoil Start Inverter Generator (Refurbished) on sale for $239.99 when you apply coupon code LABORDAYTWENTY. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member Canyon-skier for finding this deal.

Features / Specs:
  • 3200 starting watts and 2900 running watts
  • Power Rating: 2.9 kW
  • Power Source: Gasoline
  • Items Included: User Manual, Quick Reference Guide
  • Year Manufactured: 2021
  • MPN: W02981F
  • Item Length: 23.2 Inches
  • Noise Level: 58dB
  • Type: Inverter Portable Generator
  • Tank Capacity: 1.8
  • Maximum Power: 3.2 kW
  • Assembly Required: No
  • Manufacturer Warranty: 3 Months
  • Item Height: 17.9 Inches
  • Voltage: 120V
  • Application: Construction, Home Backup, Recreation, Tailgating
  • Item Weight: 84lbs
  • Item Width: 17.8 Inches

Editor's Notes

Written by jimmytx | Staff
  • About this Deal:
    • Refer to the forum thread for community discussion of this deal.
  • Condition Notes:
    • Per the product page listing: This product has been REFURBISHED to exacting specifications by FIRMAN technicians. Certified to work as new. May have cosmetic blemishes.

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PatrickR8354
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You might be able to fight legally on medical necessity. For example if you had a CPAP and the HOA tries to fine the generator "keeping you alive", that's a problem.
Rawoffers
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Mine is trash. NOT REFURBISHED, looks HEAVILY USED. Oil leaking in box and scratches and scuffs all over outside of generator with sun faded labels. Looks heavily used or left outside for a long period

Contacted the seller and they were very dismissive. Just said to issue eBay Return. The item weighs almost 100lbs in packaging. They want me to load into my car, drive to a UPS, unload from my car, take my hand truck to get into UPS store for what? A refund of what I paid?

They know 100% they never inspected the item, sent an item that did NOT match their description and was NOT refurbished but instead USED (and / or returned after used and never inspected). This seller should not be trusted and buy definitely at your own risk

I do not think all of the effort to return is anywhere worth us being EVEN. And the seller knows this too which is why they DARE you to do the return process
Rawoffers
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Very similar experience and the customer service response was very telling. Basically daring me to take the time, effort, and breaking my back to return it. For what? To get my original money back? Needs to be a penalty to fraudulent sellers like this. They know these aren't refurbs and they know they don't match their description

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Aug 31, 2023 10:26 PM
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drew6666Aug 31, 2023 10:26 PM
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Quote from Caleo :
Not directly, no.. You'll need an adapter that's TT-30P (which is the 30A plug on both the OP 2900W and the 3242 3200W) to L14-30R. Note: "P" at the end denotes Plug, "R" denotes Receptacle (female).

It's kind of weird... the receptacle on the smaller Firman 1600/2000W is L14-30R. Not sure why they decided to put RV-style TT-30R on these
Thanks for confirming that is what I was currently looking at. The Costco cord seems a great deal but needs the adapter.
Aug 31, 2023 10:30 PM
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twistrmanAug 31, 2023 10:30 PM
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Quote from Caleo :
Not directly, no.. You'll need an adapter that's TT-30P (which is the 30A plug on both the OP 2900W and the 3242 3200W) to L14-30R. Note: "P" at the end denotes Plug, "R" denotes Receptacle (female).

It's kind of weird... the receptacle on the smaller Firman 1600/2000W is L14-30R. Not sure why they decided to put RV-style TT-30R on these.
Sorry. That's my bad. I am not well versed in all of these plugs and just thought those went together. Going to go edit that one out.
Aug 31, 2023 10:32 PM
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unclebenny4140Aug 31, 2023 10:32 PM
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Quote from Caleo :
Search for "TT-30P L14-30R adapter"
https://www.amazon.com/GearIT-RV-...to_dp&th=1

I believe this should do the trick. 50 amp it appears, but that shouldn't hurt. With the adapter cost factored in, takes it back to the original $70ish cost of the cable though.
Last edited by unclebenny4140 August 31, 2023 at 03:57 PM.
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Aug 31, 2023 10:59 PM
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CaleoAug 31, 2023 10:59 PM
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Quote from unclebenny4140 :
https://www.amazon.com/GearIT-RV-...to_dp&th=1 [amazon.com]

I believe this should do the trick. 50 amp it appears, but that shouldn't hurt.
Nope - not for use with that Firman L14-30 cable that was linked, anyway. You'd need specifically what I stated - a TT-30P to L14-30R adapter: https://www.homedepot.com/p/parkw.../316776934

There are tons of results on amazon too, example above is but one of many choices.
Aug 31, 2023 11:03 PM
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dplaneAug 31, 2023 11:03 PM
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Quote from johnnyblades :
anybody's wh03242 (4000W) generator actually ship yet?
Mine shipped yesterday. Same day i ordered.
Aug 31, 2023 11:38 PM
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unclebenny4140Aug 31, 2023 11:38 PM
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Quote from Caleo :
Nope - not for use with that Firman L14-30 cable that was linked, anyway. You'd need specifically what I stated - a TT-30P to L14-30R adapter: https://www.homedepot.com/p/parkw.../316776934

There are tons of results on amazon too, example above is but one of many choices.
Why does it matter if the adapter is rated for 50 amps instead of 30? If the connectors are the same?
Sep 01, 2023 12:05 AM
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CaleoSep 01, 2023 12:05 AM
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Well... I got my W02981F a few hours ago and just threw some oil in it and put it to the test. In short: I'm not very happy with it. I might give it another shot but this is probably going back or getting RMA'd.

After running it for 10m+, it's still sputtering a lot on Economy mode, and doesn't seem to want to put out more than ~600W to recharge my Ecoflow Delta 2 - even when it's not on economy mode. It's also making some annoying 'popping' sounds with some load.

The hour meter on it was completely reset too, and the residual oil left in it was pretty dark. Date of manufacture = early 2019.
Quote from unclebenny4140 :
Why does it matter if the adapter is rated for 50 amps instead of 30? If the connectors are the same?
...it's just not the right adapter, to use with the L14-30P cable from Costco [costco.com]. It is for 14-50R which is not the same thing. The L denotes "Locking".

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Sep 01, 2023 12:07 AM
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unclebenny4140Sep 01, 2023 12:07 AM
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Quote from Caleo :
Well... I got my W02981F a few hours ago and just threw some oil in it and put it to the test. In short: I'm not very happy with it. I might give it another shot but this is probably going back or getting RMA'd.

After running it for 10m+, it's still sputtering a lot on Economy mode, and doesn't seem to want to put out more than ~600W to recharge my Ecoflow Delta 2 - even when it's not on economy mode. It's also making some annoying 'popping' sounds with some load.

The hour meter on it was completely reset too, and the residual oil left in it was pretty dark. Date of manufacture = early 2019.

...it's just not the right adapter, to use with the L14-30P cable from Costco [costco.com]. It is for 14-50R which is not the same thing. The L denotes "Locking".
Gotcha. Looked identical to me. But I cancelled and ordered the one you linked from Home Depot. I appreciate the info kind sir.
Sep 01, 2023 12:38 AM
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Dok23Sep 01, 2023 12:38 AM
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Quote from PatrickR8354 :
You need to add engine oil first or you will destroy the generator...
Yea , oil , funnel and the rest, wich I reply , the gas. What else is left. It was a joke ..
They do have some oil inside, but not enough, you have to add more. Purchased 4 generators in my life, and none came with oil or funnel ,
Everything else is extra $$$
Last edited by Dok23 August 31, 2023 at 05:52 PM.
Sep 01, 2023 01:00 AM
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ManoloDSep 01, 2023 01:00 AM
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Quote from unclebenny4140 :
DOH I missed that part. Well, where does one find one of these adapters?
This is the one you need.

https://www.amazon.com/Parkworld-...th=1&psc=1

Another thing,, this one is bridged.
Last edited by ManoloD August 31, 2023 at 06:03 PM.
Sep 01, 2023 01:47 AM
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cockadoodleSep 01, 2023 01:47 AM
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Quote from Caleo :
FWIW, saying 300AH of battery without specifying voltage doesn't tell us anything about your actual capacity - watt hours says more (e.g. my Delta 2 is ~1kWh and my bigger battery/inverter is a ~5kWh)...

At any rate - having an inverter/battery setup you can occasionally top off with a generator is the way to go, IMO. It got me through my recent 2+ day outage, and while my neighbors' generators never stopped... it was nice to not have to have mine running overnight.

Also - why is this marked expired now? It's still in stock and this coupon is still active...
Good point about batteries. Smart people charge batteries with solar/generator and get longer runtime/less noise and can survive longer when fuel shortages occur. In my setup, I can last 3 days at 9kw draw per day and have solar and generator to recharge my batteries.
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Sep 01, 2023 01:54 AM
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CaleoSep 01, 2023 01:54 AM
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Quote from cockadoodle :
Good point about batteries. Smart people charge batteries with solar/generator and get longer runtime/less noise and can survive longer when fuel shortages occur. In my setup, I can last 3 days at 9kw draw per day and have solar and generator to recharge my batteries.
Nice. Did you get the ~30kWh Lifepower4 tower? lol (my 5kWh battery is one)
Sep 01, 2023 02:15 AM
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cockadoodleSep 01, 2023 02:15 AM
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Quote from Caleo :
Nice. Did you get the ~30kWh Lifepower4 tower? lol (my 5kWh battery is one)
Worked in telecom/data center in past so was able to salvage a bunch of 180ah lifepo4 batteries and a Tebevert -48v inverter with 100ah/200a peak 120v output. Custom set up. Critical loads are on sub panel with ATS to Tebevert so it serves as battery back up in brief outages.lifepo4 batteries are kept charged by solar panels on garage. Longer outages involve breaking out additional panels or using generator if sunlight is not available to recharge bank.If generator is run, it runs only long enough to recharge batteries. Unfortunately, being prepared results in few outages...
Sep 01, 2023 03:35 AM
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FlashPilotSep 01, 2023 03:35 AM
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Quote from Caleo :
Well... I got my W02981F a few hours ago and just threw some oil in it and put it to the test. In short: I'm not very happy with it. I might give it another shot but this is probably going back or getting RMA'd.

After running it for 10m+, it's still sputtering a lot on Economy mode, and doesn't seem to want to put out more than ~600W to recharge my Ecoflow Delta 2 - even when it's not on economy mode. It's also making some annoying 'popping' sounds with some load.

The hour meter on it was completely reset too, and the residual oil left in it was pretty dark. Date of manufacture = early 2019.
Im sorry its not running properly. Have you tired load testing it another way? A heater or hair dryer of around 1500 watts will give you an accurate constant resistive load. The dark residual oil is definitely a bad sign and indicates that it was abused by the previous owner. Its also a fair bet that it wasn't broken in properly. How does the rest of it look?

Do they pay return shipping if you RMA? If so, Id probably refund or exchange it while I could. Out of curiosity, Id still test a resistive load for my own peace of mind to make sure something with your ecoflow isnt causing an incompatibility with the BMS and the generator. I assume your ecoflow charges above 600W when plugged into house mains?

Too bad they reset the hour meter at the factory. I dont think I would have bought one if I knew they were so desperate to deceive the customer with such shabby tactics. Its like resetting the odometer on a used car to screw over the next victim.

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Sep 01, 2023 04:15 AM
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CaleoSep 01, 2023 04:15 AM
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Quote from cockadoodle :
Worked in telecom/data center in past so was able to salvage a bunch of 180ah lifepo4 batteries and a Tebevert -48v inverter with 100ah/200a peak 120v output. Custom set up. Critical loads are on sub panel with ATS to Tebevert so it serves as battery back up in brief outages.lifepo4 batteries are kept charged by solar panels on garage. Longer outages involve breaking out additional panels or using generator if sunlight is not available to recharge bank.If generator is run, it runs only long enough to recharge batteries. Unfortunately, being prepared results in few outages...
Nice, I'm leaning towards a similar setup with critical loads on a sub panel (partly to reduce circuits in my main box) with my reliance protran 2 manual transfer switch, and probably add a couple new circuits in the subpanel.

Quote from FlashPilot :
Im sorry its not running properly. Have you tired load testing it another way? A heater or hair dryer of around 1500 watts will give you an accurate constant resistive load. The dark residual oil is definitely a bad sign and indicates that it was abused by the previous owner. Its also a fair bet that it wasn't broken in properly. How does the rest of it look?

Do they pay return shipping if you RMA? If so, Id probably refund or exchange it while I could. Out of curiosity, Id still test a resistive load for my own peace of mind to make sure something with your ecoflow isnt causing an incompatibility with the BMS and the generator. I assume your ecoflow charges above 600W when plugged into house mains?

Too bad they reset the hour meter at the factory. I dont think I would have bought one if I knew they were so desperate to deceive the customer with such shabby tactics. Its like resetting the odometer on a used car to screw over the next victim.
Tried with a couple things, with a ~1500W kettle output cut off almost immediately. It also had the electronics on the base quickly cycling on/off without the kettle ON.

https://i.imgur.com/ceD7X21.mp4 audio/video of it in action - unit looks and is in pretty good overall shape, but some of the stickers on the top were yellowed by the sun (and/or heat). Pretty sure the hour meter was blank too as if reset - I don't think it even showed a 0.

Initially I'd started out charging my EF Delta 2 at 200W, which went ok, and 400W, neither really kicked it up above eco idle. 600W is where it output started cutting pretty much right away. Yes, I also tried this WITHOUT eco mode - similar behavior.

I did get the Delta 2 to charge at approximately its max 1200W for a bit, but didn't maintain it because it was getting late There may be hope.. but I've got the dual fuel 3200/400W unit coming.
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