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Tesla Model X & Model S Price Cut

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It looks like they cut prices on the Model X and Model X Plaid. The base Model X now sells for $79,990 while the Plaid now sells for $89,990. All color options are included too. It also seems as if it might now qualify for a tax credit.

Edit: Model S prices were slashed too.

Model S base model $74,990
Model S Plaid $89,990

https://www.tesla.com/
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It looks like they cut prices on the Model X and Model X Plaid. The base Model X now sells for $79,990 while the Plaid now sells for $89,990. All color options are included too. It also seems as if it might now qualify for a tax credit.

Edit: Model S prices were slashed too.

Model S base model $74,990
Model S Plaid $89,990

https://www.tesla.com/

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Quote from FishKilla :
It is a 5 year old car that retails for $80K (minus$7.5K if you qualify, maybe more). He will be lucky to get $40K wholesale. That is if it has low miles and is in pristine condition
You have idiots that think because they have low miles that they are immune to Elon's price cuts/fed and state rebates that most people can get to buy the car much lower then what they bought it for. They fell for Elon's genius marketing. Hook line and sinker. I hope they realize a electric car is not really a investment. It's to get from point a to b. Only rare cars that are gas powered and manual go up. Battery cars don't go up. Only down. I bought my Tesla 2021 LR to drive as I bought it in the low $40's from state/fed rebates/inventory discounts. I am still down like $7K to $8K even at that price. I am realistic on what i know my car is worth.
Last edited by Mydiscover September 6, 2023 at 06:34 AM.
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Quote from Knightshade :
...what?

Prices have now "dropped" to... exactly what they were pre-covid.

Which is what you'd expect now that you've ramped up your factories. A factory only using 10% of its capacity when it first opens is costly---and indeed prices were raised significantly during this period--- once it's ramped to high production the costs go down a lot and so can the prices.

Which they have- right back to where they were before.



Sales continue to grow and have been record highs every quarter for years-with an average compound annual growth rate of ~50% for a decade now- and there's no reason to expect that to change- with additional expansion at existing factories continuing- and a huge new one in Mexico just about to start construction.
I am banking on a great retirement from my shares of TSLA. I hope it goes up even faster so i can retire this year. LMAO
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Fastest car ever made?? LMAO
He most work for Tesla or he was saying it's Tesla's fastest car. Because I thought Lamborghini were.
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Quote from ggapropros :
Something thats interesting is that i believe model S and model X are only made in the fremont plant with extremely expensive labor (probably amongst the highest of any manufacturer in US)

So it makes sense then that they can lower the price again to what it was 3 years ago, especially as the R&D amortization on model S and model X be almost zero at this point.

Labor has stayed pretty much the same in fremont for past 3 years, but im sure all the material costs for interior/exterior/seats/screen/glass/etc was out of control past 3 years, feds raised up rates, everythings cooling, so the price comes rocketing down.
Love reading your intelligent comments. You put these haters and ill-informed people in their place. Keep it up! You should have a YouTube channel!
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Quote from Knightshade :
No, it factually is not.

It's exactly the same price as it was a few years ago.

As I've pointed out 3 times now and posted a link to pricing charts you apparently did not read.





No, it was not.

You are confusing the P100D (performance model) with the regular 100D.

The regular 100D wasn't even for sale in 2016- it was introduced in January 2017.

https://techcrunch.com/2017/01/20...ded-range/



Except, of course, it has.


May 27, 2020 the LR 100D price dropped from $84,990 to $79,990.

The same price it is today

It didn't start climbing again until January 2021...and now it's...simply back where it was over 3 years ago.







This misunderstands a few basic points of economics.

First- as exhaustively covered, these "slashing" of prices are...basically just back to what they were before the covid hikes.

Second, especially for the 3 and Y, they have massively increased production... when that happens you lower prices. If you have higher supply you can't keep hiking prices and expect demand to absorb that higher supply.

The 2021-22 price hikes were because supply wasn't able to ramp to keep up.... now they they've got their second factory fully ramped, and 2 more full factories online ramping up churning out cars (esp. the Y- the best selling car in the world) they can revert back to previous pricing.







Unlike 3/Y where they've built 3 entire new factories and multiple new lines in these factories, the S/X in general are production constrained- they only make them on one line, in one factory- the same one they've used for a decade now.

The S does not qualify for the credit at all-- and again is back to where it was priced about 3 years ago.

So is the X. The BASE X does qualify (no other version does) now-- but again Tesla gets $0.00 of that tax credit on the sale of those.

And those base model X sales represent like 1-2% of all their car sales.

The idea this is all some vast conspiracy to maybe sell a couple more of a thing that' so little of their sales and that they haven't significantly increased production of requires....considerable mental gymnastics in an attempt to ascribe some sinister motive to a company simply pricing the thing the same as they did 3 years ago




The S and X both come with a full steering wheel by default.

The yoke is a paid option if you happen to want that instead.




Here's a Tesla Model X towing a 287,000 pound Boeing 787 Dreamliner Jumbo Jet.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQBRyR1JGBo

What larger/heavier thing were you needing to tow exactly?
I also respect your intelligence like the guy in the above comment! Mad respect to you both! Keep up the excellent job.
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Quote from Fullmetalx :
Waiting for Model X Plaid to qualify for credit. Will also need to get it under a family member's name to qualify for credit
Me too! Just another $9,990 to go. Plus another $2,000 for the white interior which I want. Let's pray together that Red or White exterior will be free. So a total of $11,990 is needed.
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Quote from Mydiscover :
You have idiots that think because they have low miles that they are immune to Elon's price cuts/fed and state rebates that most people can get to buy the car much lower then what they bought it for. They fell for Elon's genius marketing. Hook line and sinker. I hope they realize a electric car is not really a investment. It's to get from point a to b. Only rare cars that are gas powered and manual go up. Battery cars don't go up. Only down. I bought my Tesla 2021 LR to drive as I bought it in the low $40's from state/fed rebates/inventory discounts. I am still down like $7K to $8K even at that price. I am realistic on what i know my car is worth.
Bought used?

I paid barely a tad under that for my 2021 Model 3 SR+ new back in 2021. No fed rebates back then unfortunately. I got owned on this car and another luxury SUV lease I bought out when cars were absurdly overpriced.

I paid close to $90k for 2 cars over the last few years that are barely worth half that now. Shit timing. Ah well.

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LOL, it's very sad you live your life this way.
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Quote from junkpromo :
Me too! Just another $9,990 to go. Plus another $2,000 for the white interior which I want. Let's pray together that Red or White exterior will be free. So a total of $11,990 is needed.
Hang in there, good chance this will happen before the end of the year.

Model X base will settle around $50K. Maybe $60K for plaid so plenty of room for add-ons.​
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Quote from FishKilla :
Hang in there, good chance this will happen before the end of the year.

Model X base will settle around $50K. Maybe $60K for plaid so plenty of room for add-ons.​
I doubt that Model X will settle round $50k for the next year, given that the Model Y LR base is already $50,490.

Maybe like 2-3 years from now.

My guess is that the Model X base will drop maybe by $3.5-5k before December to let owners qualify for tax credit on the 7 seater model, and settle at around $70k by the end of next year for the time being.
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Quote from wasssup :
Bought used?

I paid barely a tad under that for my 2021 Model 3 SR+ new back in 2021. No fed rebates back then unfortunately. I got owned on this car and another luxury SUV lease I bought out when cars were absurdly overpriced.

I paid close to $90k for 2 cars over the last few years that are barely worth half that now. Shit timing. Ah well.
If you saw how quickly Tesla cars prices went up during the COVID pandemic due to supply constraints and demand, you would assume they would come down post pandemic. It was a simple supply and demand issue during that time. It was expected they come down significantly closer to pre-pandemic prices.

You enjoyed the cars for two years, plus you had a low interest rate. It's simple economics.

Also, it was easy to tell from reviews during that time that Tesla quality was not as good as other manufacturers and it was grossly overpriced then and it was only a matter of time they come down.
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Quote from ggapropros :
... you bought a model x in early 2022 for $96k? your car is probably going to trade into tesla like $60k if youre lucky and have low mileage. If you qualify for $7500 tax credit you will pay $12k for 18 months of ownership (hopefully youre in a state where the trade in lowers sales tax)

maybe worth doing if you love your model x currently and really want the diff screen in front and screen in back seat, but frankly i dont spend much time looking at my model 3 screen...
I would reckon that the model X will trade into Tesla much lower than $60k if you can buy a new one for $72k after tax credit.

I leased a Jeep Grand Cherokee 4xe for two years, and 7 months into my lease with 7500 miles, my car value dropped from $62k MSRP to $38k to trade in when I was seeing how much value it has dropped. Good thing I leased for only two years at $650 a month payment with $0 down at 15k miles per year.
Last edited by mathnerd88 September 6, 2023 at 09:25 AM.
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You don't need to buy a charger. It comes with a cord and all you need is a 240v outlet to plug it into.
Nope Tesla does not come with a charging cable. You need to buy one if you don't already have one.

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Quote from mathnerd88 :
I doubt that Model X will settle round $50k for the next year, given that the Model Y LR base is already $50,490.

Maybe like 2-3 years from now.

My guess is that the Model X base will drop maybe by $3.5-5k before December to let owners qualify for tax credit on the 7 seater model, and settle at around $70k by the end of next year for the time being.
Quote from FishKilla :
Hang in there, good chance this will happen before the end of the year.

Model X base will settle around $50K. Maybe $60K for plaid so plenty of room for add-ons.​
Quote from mathnerd88 :
If you saw how quickly Tesla cars prices went up during the COVID pandemic due to supply constraints and demand, you would assume they would come down post pandemic. It was a simple supply and demand issue during that time. It was expected they come down significantly closer to pre-pandemic prices.

You enjoyed the cars for two years, plus you had a low interest rate. It's simple economics.

Also, it was easy to tell from reviews during that time that Tesla quality was not as good as other manufacturers and it was grossly overpriced then and it was only a matter of time they come down.

Someone has compiled all the pricing data and it's pretty current.

https://docs.google.com/spreadshe...=231426599

This is not inflation adjusted AFAIK, that means for example, from Jan 2021 until July 2023, inflation has been a cumulative ~ 17% [bls.gov]. So if you look at Jan 2021 Model 3 SR which was ~ $37k at its lowest, that equates to more like $43.2k now

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