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Moen Flo Smart Water Monitor & Automatic Shutoff (3/4" Diameter)

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Amazon has Moen Flo Smart Water Monitor & Automatic Shutoff (3/4" Diameter, 900-001) on sale for $298.75. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member Lordslamma for sharing this deal.

About this Item:
  • Turn your water on/off from the app manually, or Flo by Moen Smart Water Shutoff will automatically turn off the water for you to protect the home from catastrophic water damage
  • MicroLeak Technology proactively monitors the security of the home's entire water system (including behind walls and in foundations) to identify leaks as small as a drop per minute (e.g. pinhole leaks, etc.)
  • See how much water you're consuming daily and set conservation goals to encourage saving water and money for your home
  • Model 900-001 fits 3/4-Inch to 1-1/4 Inch pipe diameter (consult a professional)
  • Compatible with: Alexa skills and Google Assistant; no smart hub or system required; requires Wi-Fi connection; requires standard AC/DC power connection
  • Everything needed for installation is included in box; Professional installation is recommended

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  • About this Deal:
    • At the time of this posting, our research indicates that this is $51.23 lower than the next best available prices starting from $349.98. -SaltyOne
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Amazon has Moen Flo Smart Water Monitor & Automatic Shutoff (3/4" Diameter, 900-001) on sale for $298.75. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member Lordslamma for sharing this deal.

About this Item:
  • Turn your water on/off from the app manually, or Flo by Moen Smart Water Shutoff will automatically turn off the water for you to protect the home from catastrophic water damage
  • MicroLeak Technology proactively monitors the security of the home's entire water system (including behind walls and in foundations) to identify leaks as small as a drop per minute (e.g. pinhole leaks, etc.)
  • See how much water you're consuming daily and set conservation goals to encourage saving water and money for your home
  • Model 900-001 fits 3/4-Inch to 1-1/4 Inch pipe diameter (consult a professional)
  • Compatible with: Alexa skills and Google Assistant; no smart hub or system required; requires Wi-Fi connection; requires standard AC/DC power connection
  • Everything needed for installation is included in box; Professional installation is recommended

Editor's Notes

Written by SaltyOne | Staff
  • About this Deal:
    • At the time of this posting, our research indicates that this is $51.23 lower than the next best available prices starting from $349.98. -SaltyOne
  • About this Store:

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Written by Lordslamma

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sidewinder33625
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its still expensive to be locked into their ecosystem. it will become useless when they discontinue the product or service. they could also start putting features behind a paywall again like they used to.

https://solutions.moen.com/Smart_...of_Service

(i) Modification. Flo reserves the right, at any time, to modify, suspend, or discontinue the Services or any part thereof with or without notice. You agree that Flo will not be liable to you or to any third party for any modification, suspension, or discontinuance of the Services or any part thereof.
yanks0114
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Yes (obviously check with your insurance company about the requirements) but for mine, it's 7% off the premium. Makes it a very quick payback period
adam3914
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You could just unplug it and turn it on manually.

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Sep 08, 2023 11:23 PM
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SANDY2424Sep 08, 2023 11:23 PM
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I have this, it came pre-installed as part of a connected home, and I have to say it's one of the more underrated features. It's quite sensitive and will detect even a little stream/ dripping from faucets
It does have an IQ feature that maps out your typical usage and if it detects odd usage (think the occasional morning car wash, it will trigger an alert call/ text/ email.

Even without the insurance savings from having it, I would definitely buy it.
Sep 09, 2023 01:34 AM
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BrightMitten362Sep 09, 2023 01:34 AM
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Quote from weikewl :
I have Mercury Homeowners Insurance. They not only subsidized the cost including install, they offer a 10% discount which pays back my out of pocket expense in less than two years.

https://newsroom.mercuryinsurance...s%20policy.
Good, you live in California country! Georgia doesn't have such discounts or rebates like smart thermostat, energy saving on higher SEER heat pumps, etc. Very little incentive for green energy or energy efficiency
Sep 09, 2023 03:48 AM
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TakeMeToYourDealerSep 09, 2023 03:48 AM
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Quote from biker1284 :
Who cares?
No one does
Sep 09, 2023 05:02 AM
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Speedmaster1Sep 09, 2023 05:02 AM
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I always wanted to buy this but hesitant if it will auto shut off when it detects a false positive leak when my water softener regenerates . Anybody here who has this installed with a water softener?
Sep 09, 2023 11:28 AM
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astro26Sep 09, 2023 11:28 AM
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Quote from SmartSquirrel9403 :
Some people are mean. Could be because they get their kicks out of it or potentially in order to get you to pay to have it turned back on.
The odds are that your home doorbell camera or door lock gets checked before people target the low install base of Moen water valves.

Credit or debit cards at Gas stations and restaurants are more vulnerable than this product.
Sep 09, 2023 11:38 AM
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astro26Sep 09, 2023 11:38 AM
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Quote from sidewinder33625 :
its still expensive to be locked into their ecosystem. it will become useless when they discontinue the product or service. they could also start putting features behind a paywall again like they used to.

https://solutions.moen.com/Smart_...of_Service

(i) Modification. Flo reserves the right, at any time, to modify, suspend, or discontinue the Services or any part thereof with or without notice. You agree that Flo will not be liable to you or to any third party for any modification, suspension, or discontinuance of the Services or any part thereof.
They probably will go to a subscription service in a few years, easy to capture revenue to pay for ongoing changes to the software and features. As it costs money to keep the lights on for the software team and will pay for new research's and development.

Most things will be subscription based in the future.
Sep 09, 2023 12:05 PM
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smithmalSep 09, 2023 12:05 PM
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So after evaluating my options I'm thinking that the Moen Flo will probably give me 2-4 years of use (if lucky) before going kaput because I am on well water. Although it can detect water leaks it sounds like it would be high maintenance even after "learning" my family's water use.

For this reason I'm think of using the system:

Auto leak detection and water valve controller
YoLink DIY Automatic Water Leak Detection & Shut-Off Starter Kit (EVO Valve style; $270 AC): https://www.amazon.com/YoLink-Automatic-Detection-Manipulator-Controller/dp/B098QP4ZLH/ref=sr_1_7?cr... [amazon.com]

Benefits:
  • Interacts directly with already installed cutoff switch. No plumber needed.
  • Easy to replace if/when necessary
  • No direct access to water; direct mechanical interaction with cutoff switch; good solution to well water owners
  • Can either be used as battery only, or power with battery backup
  • Direct interaction with leak sensors placed throughout the house (no cloud or internet outage concerns)
  • No subscription necessary
  • Can also be used on the cloud for app notifications/control and compatible with Alexa
  • Expandable to additional sensor or sensor styles
  • Can be expanded to provide additional smarthome capabilities. Sensors include door and window contacts, glass break/vibration alarms, lighting, fridge and freezer monitoring, smoke and fire sensors, smart locks, sirens and will soon provide video surveillance
User Review video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1DIfYE-gsA (note this individual is using the bulldog valve rather than the EVO valve).

In terms of monitors I'd have one at all the usual spots (toilets, washer, water heater, etc)

The only issue that I've found is that this system can only detect leaks where you put the sensor, so if you have a leak on some pipe somewhere in the house/irrigation system this setup is not going to make you aware. For that reason I may also decide to add a water monitor/leak detector system (like the Flume 2 which is also battery operated and can work for 4 years on batteries alone). Here's an interesting video where someone compared the accuracy, pros and cons of the Moen Flo vs Streamlabs, Phyn vs. Flume).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5...oAA&t=616s
Last edited by smithmal September 9, 2023 at 05:36 AM.

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Sep 09, 2023 12:45 PM
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sidewinder33625Sep 09, 2023 12:45 PM
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Quote from astro26 :
They probably will go to a subscription service in a few years, easy to capture revenue to pay for ongoing changes to the software and features. As it costs money to keep the lights on for the software team and will pay for new research's and development.

Most things will be subscription based in the future.
agreed...as long as they don't end up pulling the plug altogether. these are niche devices and given the low userbase it wouldn't take much.
Sep 09, 2023 01:06 PM
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mrdizleSep 09, 2023 01:06 PM
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I got this awhile ago and it has been great. Supposedly the strongest motor for this type of product. I was only looking for Zwave and this fit the bill.

https://www.amazon.com/EcoNet-Con...e904010ad0
Sep 09, 2023 01:36 PM
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superman2005Sep 09, 2023 01:36 PM
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got one, going to install it myself with PVC couplers from the local hardware store.
Sep 09, 2023 03:21 PM
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Jester747Sep 09, 2023 03:21 PM
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Quote from jdsmn21 :
I was always wondering - does having a device like this installed give a discount on homeowner's insurance?

I would think that if I'm mitigating a significant risk, I should get a discount.
I'm going to check with mine, but I would sure hope so. Water damage claims are one of the biggest and most common claims for homes.

My state is in a mini crisis of sorts with insurance doubling and some companies leaving altogether due to recent years of bogus roof claims and also bogus water damage claims. The MO for the water claims is a busted pipe behind a wall which the homeowner supposedly fixes and discards before insurance gets to see it, then they claim for damages to cabinets, floors, etc. Insurance Cos kept losing at trial (jurors rarely decide in favor of ins co) so things reached a point where they'd just settle these claims. Word spread, people kept doing it, wash rinse repeat. We recently got a law that's supposedly going to help immensely, but now the reinsurance market damage has been done and we can only hope that things can be reigned in on time.

A device like this should go a long way to show an ins co that you're not up to those shenanigans. Aside from that, knowing that this thing can actually stop the water flow during a leak/burst pipe situation and spare us the nightmare of dealing with water damage. If they don't offer a discount (they should be giving these out to every policy holder at this point!) that'd be quite dumb on their part.
Sep 09, 2023 03:29 PM
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biker1284Sep 09, 2023 03:29 PM
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Quote from Speedmaster1 :
I always wanted to buy this but hesitant if it will auto shut off when it detects a false positive leak when my water softener regenerates . Anybody here who has this installed with a water softener?
It learns your habits, times and flow rates. I have a softener and it has set the flo off before, but it was generally after I unplugged the softener and had the wrong time set on it, changing the habits/time. I think I've now gone a couple years without issue and my softener runs less often than most probably.
Sep 09, 2023 03:31 PM
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biker1284Sep 09, 2023 03:31 PM
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Quote from superman2005 :
got one, going to install it myself with PVC couplers from the local hardware store.
It's an easy job, I used sharkbite fittings so didn't even have to glue (although the glue is dummy proof too).
Sep 09, 2023 03:45 PM
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funzieSep 09, 2023 03:45 PM
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Quote from Speedmaster1 :
I always wanted to buy this but hesitant if it will auto shut off when it detects a false positive leak when my water softener regenerates . Anybody here who has this installed with a water softener?
It NEEDS to go after the water softener, iron filter, or any other water quality machine.

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Sep 09, 2023 03:45 PM
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funzieSep 09, 2023 03:45 PM
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Quote from Speedmaster1 :
I always wanted to buy this but hesitant if it will auto shut off when it detects a false positive leak when my water softener regenerates . Anybody here who has this installed with a water softener?
It NEEDS to go after the water softener, iron filter, or any other water quality machine.

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