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So now we have two i5-13400f / RTX 4060 builds to compare: this one and the $1000 CyberPowerPC from Costco. The extra $150 buy you twice the RAM (DDR5 instead of DDR4 too) and twice the storage (32GB DDR5 + 2TB SSD). Plus Costco's support/warranty.
My take: Neither one is really a deal at these prices. With the Costco deal being $1000 regular price, this config shouldn't cost a penny over $850 anyway. And even then I'd just wait for the Costco PC to go on sale.
The visual settings on xbsx or s are equivalent to running it on low on your pc. My 3070ti barely gets 55 frames out of this game(on high). On medium I get about 75 constant. 1440p
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The point is there are better things than the 4060 for less
Please provide a link...otherwise you are just talking out of your azz. Don't make statements without proof and building your own rig does not count. Some people don't want to build their own rig!
Please provide a link...otherwise you are just talking out of your azz. Don't make statements without proof and building your own rig does not count. Some people don't want to build their own rig!
3060 ti's are better, cost about the same new, and less used, don't need links, just reality. The 4060 is terrible in comparison to what's available in the market.
You easily can. And this pc already skimped on the budget for the case and psu. Look and wait for some deals, especially coming up on black friday anyway. Examples including just a few deals found on slickdeals in the past couple weeks.
$845-$861 for a much better computer. Not saying building is for everyone, but to kid yourself that you are not paying for the build service is delusional.
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On prime day, I ordered one of their rigs with the warehouse deal (extra 20% off) and 10% back using Amazon CC with the 4070. I thought it was going to be a sweet deal and when I received the PC the 1st thing I looked at was the GPU. It was the gimped MSI dual fan-- the card looked tiny. I just returned it.
Literally whatever falls off the back of the truck. You could order it twice and not get the same MOBO probably. What really matters is the memory and graphics card if you ask me.
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From my experience they use Gamdias 80+ gold psus, Asrock motherboards, gigabyte GPUs, adata memory with heatsink on it, and MSI SSDs. Not the best assortment of parts
Not to discredit your experience. But im running it on a 3070 with just a ryzen 5 2600x and I haven't had any issues really. It might just run at 40-50 with mostly high settings but it has been doing great. Heck even my Alienware laptop with a 2060 runs it fine. Isn't as pretty as I'd like though.
They can keep your money for up to 30 days after the pc has been returned to their warehouse. Not sure if it has always been this way, but they go me good on one of these I bought during the warehouse sale. Shipped defective, I returned it same day, and they held my $$ for 2 weeks even though they were at fault. I will not be buying a pc from them unless it is a crazy deal
Amazon's return policy on these sucks. They can keep your money for up to 30 days AFTER it has been returned to their warehouse, which means you will get charged for it on your credit card. I purchased one of these off the warehouse deal, and it was shipped defective and I returned it within hours. I called after it was received in their warehouse and asked for my refund as they had shipped a defective product and obviously they are not testing return, and I was told this is the policy and it cannot be changed. Not buying any big ticket items from Amazon in the future unless it is a great deal.
You easily can. And this pc already skimped on the budget for the case and psu. Look and wait for some deals, especially coming up on black friday anyway. Examples including just a few deals found on slickdeals in the past couple weeks.
$845-$861 for a much better computer. Not saying building is for everyone, but to kid yourself that you are not paying for the build service is delusional.
You missed the boat entirely on this one when you talk about "waiting for deals". This is a prebuilt that's ready and on sale right now, not in 2-4 weeks when you amass enough deals to have a complete computer.
Also, if you aren't including a Windows license or factoring your time in all of this, it's a non-starter. Not even worth discussing.
I'm not averse to pirating/getting around licenses or assembling a system (with better care taken than you'd find in any prebuilt), but these are still concerns and factors everyone should account for when they budget out a system.
Do I want to worry about Microsoft hounding me or restricting me from future updates and features because I cheaped out on a $50 ($20 or less if you shop around) Windows license instead of getting an OEM one for free? And the limited time I get to play games must now be devoted to hunting for parts and assembling a system with no ETA on when it will be complete?
Moreover, the system you parted out is nonsensical with a very limited upgrade path. You did exactly what I said would have to happen and skimped a little on the case and PSU. What I didn't account for was skimping on the NVME.
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Cpu 200
CPU Fan 30
GPU 300
Case 50
Case Fan 20
MB 120
Ram 40
Disk 50
Psu 60
Windows 20
total = 890
My take: Neither one is really a deal at these prices. With the Costco deal being $1000 regular price, this config shouldn't cost a penny over $850 anyway. And even then I'd just wait for the Costco PC to go on sale.
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The 4060 alone is about 35% of the budget.
Maybe if you skimped on the case and PSU.
Intel 12900K
MSI Z690 Motherboard
32GB DDR5
$400 https://www.microcenter
$33 CPU cooler, $1-2 more for RGB if you care https://www.amazon.com/Thermalrig...09
$39 PSU 600W Gold https://slickdeals.net/f/16235827-thermaltake-toughpower-gx2-80-gold-600w-power-supply-w-5-year-warranty-39-free-shipping?v=1
$45 PSU 750W Gold (better) https://slickdeals.net/f/16897681-evga-b-stock-power-supplies-750w-45-850w-70-1000w-80
$45 Case https://slickdeals.net/f/16749005-corsair-carbide-series-175r-rgb-tempered-glass-mid-tower-atx-gaming-case-black-44-99-f-s-amazon
$28 1TB drive https://slickdeals.net/f/16840058-msi-spatium-m450-m-2-2280-1tb-pci-express-4-0-x4-nvme-1-4-3d-nand-internal-solid-state-drive-27-99-ar-newegg
$300 RTX 4060 https://www.microcenter
$310 6700 XT (better) https://slickdeals.net/f/16854212-sapphire-pulse-amd-radeon-rx-6700-xt-12gb-gddr6-gpu-starfield-premium-edition-310-free-shipping
$845-$861 for a much better computer. Not saying building is for everyone, but to kid yourself that you are not paying for the build service is delusional.
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DF just put out their optimized video. Basically for most GPU's run settings at medium.
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Intel 12900K
MSI Z690 Motherboard
32GB DDR5
$400 https://www.microcenter
$33 CPU cooler, $1-2 more for RGB if you care https://www.amazon.com/Thermalrig...09
$39 PSU 600W Gold https://slickdeals.net/f/16235827-thermaltake-toughpower-gx2-80-gold-600w-power-supply-w-5-year-warranty-39-free-shipping?v=1
$45 PSU 750W Gold (better) https://slickdeals.net/f/16897681-evga-b-stock-power-supplies-750w-45-850w-70-1000w-80
$45 Case https://slickdeals.net/f/16749005-corsair-carbide-series-175r-rgb-tempered-glass-mid-tower-atx-gaming-case-black-44-99-f-s-amazon
$28 1TB drive https://slickdeals.net/f/16840058-msi-spatium-m450-m-2-2280-1tb-pci-express-4-0-x4-nvme-1-4-3d-nand-internal-solid-state-drive-27-99-ar-newegg
$300 RTX 4060 https://www.microcenter
$310 6700 XT (better) https://slickdeals.net/f/16854212-sapphire-pulse-amd-radeon-rx-6700-xt-12gb-gddr6-gpu-starfield-premium-edition-310-free-shipping
$845-$861 for a much better computer. Not saying building is for everyone, but to kid yourself that you are not paying for the build service is delusional.
Also, if you aren't including a Windows license or factoring your time in all of this, it's a non-starter. Not even worth discussing.
I'm not averse to pirating/getting around licenses or assembling a system (with better care taken than you'd find in any prebuilt), but these are still concerns and factors everyone should account for when they budget out a system.
Do I want to worry about Microsoft hounding me or restricting me from future updates and features because I cheaped out on a $50 ($20 or less if you shop around) Windows license instead of getting an OEM one for free? And the limited time I get to play games must now be devoted to hunting for parts and assembling a system with no ETA on when it will be complete?
Moreover, the system you parted out is nonsensical with a very limited upgrade path. You did exactly what I said would have to happen and skimped a little on the case and PSU. What I didn't account for was skimping on the NVME.
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