Dell Alienware Aurora R15 Desktop i9 13900KF, RTX 4090, 32GB Ram (5200MHz) SSD 1TB for $2513.69

Mine is scheduled for 10/24 shipment and went into production on 10/10.

In other news, it'd be nice if people who don't own a product would go and comment on deals involving products that they do own. Because if you don't own it, all you have are opinions. That are probably wrong.

AVOID AT ALL COSTS. Alienware desktops are notoriously bad and reach thermal throttling super easily. Your performance will be terrible. Hundreds of benchmarks on YouTube and google show the same thing. you're basically paying premium for a pc that performs like something that costs 1.5k

https://youtu.be/UnvxSkqJ8ic?si=MVcl6s0PdxXdcpmY

edit: added link benchmark for this pc that someone else linked in the comments:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8kprUGy57E

Angry Computer Jesus

It's funny, too, because even in this video he's skewing the performance comparison by using an enthusiast-only 4090 model that costs almost as much as this entire system.

Did anyone's order ship out yet? Contacted support said there was a parts shortage.

So, since you're over here regurgitating GN hypercriticisms of old models with different components, what do you think about their latest video with Steve praising the quality and thermal performance of the Dell 4090?

I didnt watch the video or look into the pc so im not going to make any claims about it. The last people you should trust are people who come to the defense of products without any empirical data to back it up, which is pretty much everyone in this thread who's defending the terrible r15 alienware build. I do believe though that legion 7 4090's are the best available prebuild 4090s that Ive come across.

So, the definition of empirical data is that it is gathered from objective experience rather than subjective opinion or theory.

Why does anyone else have the burden of providing empirical data to defend against criticisms that are also not empirical? How do you say, "Avoid at all costs" because of opinions based on criticisms of previous models, then say you're not making a claim? How do you say not to trust people defending something without empirical data, when that's literally how you're criticizing it, while some of them are citing personal experience?

Or do you think referring to Steve Burke criticisms of other, different PCs, and comparisons of OEM parts against overpriced, top-end enthusiast parts as somehow objective performance data?

I'm not even arguing with a lot of his criticisms. I wouldn't buy one of these. But im objective enough to tell people why and not tell them they never should at all costs. *I* would rather pick my components and have the ability to change them. But words like "proprietary" mean absolutely nothing to the average prebuilt consumer. And this whole PC costs just $200 less than the enthusiast card Steve used for comparison, and he STILL gave it an overall positive review.

The fact is that the enthusiast community is anything but objective when it comes to criticism of mass-production prebuilts. The reality is that while not the most optimal performance of their tier of components, they do tend to be designed to work as-is and do.

And people like Steve Burke never actually give you a real-world, apples-to-apples, empircal look at how one of these would stack up against a DIY built on the same budget.

because the criticism was backed up by the closest thing to empirical data as we have out there. His test might not be perfect but it's loads better than anecdotal experience of "oh I didnt notice my pc throttling therefore it didnt" by pretty much everyone who came to the defense of this shit build.

Hi Kevin. I'm about the biggest PC expert that you'll find, with 5 decades of experience including a multi decade stint working for intel.

I've spent all day with this computer. It's perfectly fine, doesn't throttle in a meaningful way, and it's far from a "shit build".

If you can't afford one of these, you should go to cheaper pc threads and crap on those.

Because neither you, nor Angry Computer Jesus has a clue. At least ACJ gets paid for his wild youtube videos where he makes specious claims and makes molehills into mountains.

Frankly, I neither trust nor do I feel that Burke is a reliable source. And I'm quite sure that he won't go out with you.

Dropped on the ignore list so I don't mistakenly take you as a good source of...anything...in the future.