Full price at $3799.99.... now on sale $2849.99 with 25%. Apply 10% off with email sign up code, and ARMMPPS for additional 2% off. Should be $2513.69 prior to tax. Another additional 2% if you know where to look.
DONT FORGET to free upgrade the 4800Mhz to 5200MHz for the Ram.
FYI, this one is liquid Cryotec Cool. two weeks ago this same spec with Cryotec Cool would go for $2999.99, not $2849.99. Dont know much differences between Cryotec Cool vs regular liquid cool. But I believe this model is 240mm liquid cool with meshed side panel....... earlier model came with solid side panel, air cool or 120mm liquid cool.... I guess thats where a lot of bad review on overheating is from.
Product link
https://www.dell.com/en-us/shop/d...rar15rpl05
Email sign up link
https://www.dell.com/preferences/...aAgduHgM0Q
should pair nicely with Alienware mouse on sale for $40 in another post
https://slickdeals.net/f/16953307-alienware-wired-wireless-16000-dpi-gaming-mouse-w-rgb-lighting-350-hour-battery-life-40-free-shipping?src=frontpage_recombee&prop=rcmid-d8d680b2abcf359ff14dc6faff1d898a (expired)
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In other news, it'd be nice if people who don't own a product would go and comment on deals involving products that they do own. Because if you don't own it, all you have are opinions. That are probably wrong.
After maligning it for having a locked power limit and comparing it to a high end add-in-board 4090, finds it to be compact and to have a good cooling solution.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_KEnvh
https://youtu.be/UnvxSkqJ8ic?si=
edit: added link benchmark for this pc that someone else linked in the comments:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w8kprUG
Mine was supposed to ship on Tuesday, but it got a label printed today and its ready for pickup by fed ex.
Another big plus to this: Dell is allowing "Indirect Signature". So you can print a fed ex doortag (or use their digital doortag) to sign for it if you don't want to wait all day for the guy to show up. My house is super safe for leaving a package and I'm never gone that long.
Note: 4090 prices are going up and the new 4090 China embargo will push prices higher. So that might affect stock of 4090 dies. Prices are up around 6% this month vs last month.
If you missed it, the US govt put an embargo on shipping Nvidia AI accelerators to China and they included the 4090 since that can do some Large Language Models effectively.
In fact, that's one of the things I'm going to do with this computer.
My plan is to train the AI to look for even more future e-waste deals for me to buy.
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And can't stop telling us that we shouldn't get one either.
Here's where the rubber meets the road. These 830 people who actually bought one.
So, the definition of empirical data is that it is gathered from objective experience rather than subjective opinion or theory.
Why does anyone else have the burden of providing empirical data to defend against criticisms that are also not empirical? How do you say, "Avoid at all costs" because of opinions based on criticisms of previous models, then say you're not making a claim? How do you say not to trust people defending something without empirical data, when that's literally how you're criticizing it, while some of them are citing personal experience?
Or do you think referring to Steve Burke criticisms of other, different PCs, and comparisons of OEM parts against overpriced, top-end enthusiast parts as somehow objective performance data?
I'm not even arguing with a lot of his criticisms. I wouldn't buy one of these. But im objective enough to tell people why and not tell them they never should at all costs. *I* would rather pick my components and have the ability to change them. But words like "proprietary" mean absolutely nothing to the average prebuilt consumer. And this whole PC costs just $200 less than the enthusiast card Steve used for comparison, and he STILL gave it an overall positive review.
The fact is that the enthusiast community is anything but objective when it comes to criticism of mass-production prebuilts. The reality is that while not the most optimal performance of their tier of components, they do tend to be designed to work as-is and do.
And people like Steve Burke never actually give you a real-world, apples-to-apples, empircal look at how one of these would stack up against a DIY built on the same budget.
Why does anyone else have the burden of providing empirical data to defend against criticisms that are also not empirical? How do you say, "Avoid at all costs" because of opinions based on criticisms of previous models, then say you're not making a claim? How do you say not to trust people defending something without empirical data, when that's literally how you're criticizing it, while some of them are citing personal experience?
Or do you think referring to Steve Burke criticisms of other, different PCs, and comparisons of OEM parts against overpriced, top-end enthusiast parts as somehow objective performance data?
I'm not even arguing with a lot of his criticisms. I wouldn't buy one of these. But im objective enough to tell people why and not tell them they never should at all costs. *I* would rather pick my components and have the ability to change them. But words like "proprietary" mean absolutely nothing to the average prebuilt consumer. And this whole PC costs just $200 less than the enthusiast card Steve used for comparison, and he STILL gave it an overall positive review.
The fact is that the enthusiast community is anything but objective when it comes to criticism of mass-production prebuilts. The reality is that while not the most optimal performance of their tier of components, they do tend to be designed to work as-is and do.
And people like Steve Burke never actually give you a real-world, apples-to-apples, empircal look at how one of these would stack up against a DIY built on the same budget.
Super quiet, stays perfectly cool, and I'm quite happy with it.
But thanks to all of the computer experts with a big 15 years of experience who insisted that it was crap. I have 50 years in. Sometimes you don't feel like building one.
And my pcpartpicker with the worst, cheapest parts I could find that isn't even comparable was $3100.
Great deal at $600 less and all I had to do was open a box.
I'm starting to think that the "experts" just can't afford a machine like this.
I've spent all day with this computer. It's perfectly fine, doesn't throttle in a meaningful way, and it's far from a "shit build".
If you can't afford one of these, you should go to cheaper pc threads and crap on those.
Because neither you, nor Angry Computer Jesus has a clue. At least ACJ gets paid for his wild youtube videos where he makes specious claims and makes molehills into mountains.
Frankly, I neither trust nor do I feel that Burke is a reliable source. And I'm quite sure that he won't go out with you.
Dropped on the ignore list so I don't mistakenly take you as a good source of...anything...in the future.
The 4090 is quality though! For strictly gaming it's probably fine but I already felt dumb for not building my own... Finding out it's even worse than you thought just gives me buyers remorse.
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I've spent all day with this computer. It's perfectly fine, doesn't throttle in a meaningful way, and it's far from a "shit build".
If you can't afford one of these, you should go to cheaper pc threads and crap on those.
Because neither you, nor Angry Computer Jesus has a clue. At least ACJ gets paid for his wild youtube videos where he makes specious claims and makes molehills into mountains.
Frankly, I neither trust nor do I feel that Burke is a reliable source. And I'm quite sure that he won't go out with you.
Dropped on the ignore list so I don't mistakenly take you as a good source of...anything...in the future.