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Brooks website has these on sale for $99 but you also get their 90 day return window. They encourage you to try them and use them and if you still don't like it it's a no hassle return.
Pretty sure Academy Sports sells the new "23" version of these for this same price. In any case, they had the "22"s on clearance in local stores just a few weeks ago (ymmv), and I picked up a pair half off the $99 for $50.
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Let me put it this way. No runner needs support shoes. There was never any scientific basis for the introduction and existence of stability shoes. Every research study conducted in the past 10 years has found no lasting benefit for stability shoes. That's why the running shoe industry has largely done away with gimmicks such as medial posts, rollbars, varus wedges and shanks. Even Brooks has switched gears.
Not sure. I'm heavier and have flat feet and like the "supports" shoes. My go-to is the Brooks Adrenaline
Let me put it this way. No runner needs support shoes. There was never any scientific basis for the introduction and existence of stability shoes. Every research study conducted in the past 10 years has found no lasting benefit for stability shoes. That's why the running shoe industry has largely done away with gimmicks such as medial posts, rollbars, varus wedges and shanks. Even Brooks has switched gears.
I'm aware of the controversy over shoes like this. All I can say is that once I started wearing Brooks Adrenalines, my knees stopped hurting when running. If I go to non "stability" shoes (even Brooks ones), my knees hurt more. So while anecdote isn't scientific, stability shoes have helped me.
I suffer from "overpronation" aka flat feet and these shoes are awesome for walking. (Not much of a runner). I have completed walking marathons with GTS 18, 20, and 21 -- this will be my first pair of 22s.
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They provide benefit to runners who need support shoes.
There is some thought now that "support" is actually counter-productive to running in general. We'll see if that bears fruit but a lot of these companies seem to be thinking along these lines.
I have heel pain for planar fasciitis on my left. I see that my shoes have more wear on the outer heel and outer edge esp on my left feet. So, that means it's supination from what I have read.
What kind should I go with or do I need to visit those custom gait analysis stores?
Support shoes provide no benefit to runners. When it comes to designing running shoes Brooks is a joke.
For those seeking a casual walking shoe New Balance and Saucony have better options.
If you are saying this then I 100% don't trust you. Support shoes for runners are about correcting supination and pronation, I.e. the rolling in/out at the ankle. Also, in all my years of running, my Brooks Adrenaline GTS 20s were one of my favorite shoes. Thinking of going back to the Adrenaline GTS from my current shoe, actually.
From someone that put ~500mi on his Brooks, it was a great shoe. Padding lasted longer than I thought it would. The fit was snug but not uncomfortably tight, which I like. I do a combination of shorter 3mi speed workouts and longer ~8mi runs, with incline bridge repeats thrown in once a week for good measure. In an average week I am easily doing 25mi when I am not training for something, more when I am. My daughter also runs distance track (3200 and 1600) and XC (typically 5k events), and with her training puts in way more mileage than I do. We go through shoes around every 3-6mo, and between the two of us we've probably run on just about every major brand.
My advice if you are running or thinking of running: get fitted. Costs you more up-front (fitting is "free", but the shoes usually cost more at these stores), but it makes a world of difference. Any dedicated running store can do a proper fitting. It usually consists of measuring your foot, sometimes electronically, then running while they record your foot strike. They will then bring you out several shoes and let you try them right there in the store. If you are in the Jax area and PM me I can share where we go. Once you find a shoe you like you can then keep your eye out for deals on that shoe, until you decide to try something else that is. Rinse and repeat.
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If you are saying this then I 100% don't trust you. Support shoes for runners are about correcting supination and pronation, I.e. the rolling in/out at the ankle. Also, in all my years of running, my Brooks Adrenaline GTS 20s were one of my favorite shoes. Thinking of going back to the Adrenaline GTS from my current shoe, actually.
From someone that put ~500mi on his Brooks, it was a great shoe. Padding lasted longer than I thought it would. The fit was snug but not uncomfortably tight, which I like. I do a combination of shorter 3mi speed workouts and longer ~8mi runs, with incline bridge repeats thrown in once a week for good measure. In an average week I am easily doing 25mi when I am not training for something, more when I am. My daughter also runs distance track (3200 and 1600) and XC (typically 5k events), and with her training puts in way more mileage than I do. We go through shoes around every 3-6mo, and between the two of us we've probably run on just about every major brand.
My advice if you are running or thinking of running: get fitted. Costs you more up-front (fitting is "free", but the shoes usually cost more at these stores), but it makes a world of difference. Any dedicated running store can do a proper fitting. It usually consists of measuring your foot, sometimes electronically, then running while they record your foot strike. They will then bring you out several shoes and let you try them right there in the store. If you are in the Jax area and PM me I can share where we go. Once you find a shoe you like you can then keep your eye out for deals on that shoe, until you decide to try something else that is. Rinse and repeat.
Jumping in here to say that apropros of nothing, I'm a runner and I've got flat feet. I've run a 2:43 marathon in a previous iteration of the Adrenalines and I've liked these.
My buddy bought a pair of these for walking and has had foot pain in them.
Those who claim these are too chunky don't know you, just like I didn't know that my buddy would get pains wearing the Adrenalines. All of this is to say, these shoes may work for you, they may not. The internet doesn't know enough and anyone making blanket statements is probably wrong. You should probably do as CodeChimp says and get fitted for shoes if it's your first time and even then the rep will just have you walk or run in them to see how they feel for you. These shoes will work for you if they keep you injury-free and get you out the door. Good luck!
The Adrenaline and Glycerine are two different types of shoe so it depends on your foot. The Adrenaline is a stability shoe which is typically better suited for runners that over-pronate. The Glycerine is a cushioning shoe which generally works best for neutral runners and those that under-pronate. The Ghosts are similar to the Glycerine with slightly less cushioning.
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If you are saying this then I 100% don't trust you. Support shoes for runners are about correcting supination and pronation, I.e. the rolling in/out at the ankle. Also, in all my years of running, my Brooks Adrenaline GTS 20s were one of my favorite shoes. Thinking of going back to the Adrenaline GTS from my current shoe, actually.
From someone that put ~500mi on his Brooks, it was a great shoe. Padding lasted longer than I thought it would. The fit was snug but not uncomfortably tight, which I like. I do a combination of shorter 3mi speed workouts and longer ~8mi runs, with incline bridge repeats thrown in once a week for good measure. In an average week I am easily doing 25mi when I am not training for something, more when I am. My daughter also runs distance track (3200 and 1600) and XC (typically 5k events), and with her training puts in way more mileage than I do. We go through shoes around every 3-6mo, and between the two of us we've probably run on just about every major brand.
My advice if you are running or thinking of running: get fitted. Costs you more up-front (fitting is "free", but the shoes usually cost more at these stores), but it makes a world of difference. Any dedicated running store can do a proper fitting. It usually consists of measuring your foot, sometimes electronically, then running while they record your foot strike. They will then bring you out several shoes and let you try them right there in the store. If you are in the Jax area and PM me I can share where we go. Once you find a shoe you like you can then keep your eye out for deals on that shoe, until you decide to try something else that is. Rinse and repeat.
The science on stability shoes is mostly conflicted. Short term positive effects that fade within a year as the body adapts and compensates for the added "support". The only way to solve such issues is to strengthen the hips where most of the stability problems emanate from.
Regarding local running shoe stores I don't know if I would put much faith in their expertise. Most consumers only have access to a Fleet Feet which is corporate controlled and franchise owned. If they're lucky they might have a true independent store within an hour's drive. But regardless, LRS management often employ targets for selling a certain number of orthotic insoles each month. I've read reports on some forums from former employees stating that management would constantly pressure them to addon insoles to shoe buyers. Some employees quit in disgust because they refuse to participate in the charade where the upsell tactics include using 3D foot analysis tools to create an aura of scientific authority.
In recent years most running companies have moved to direct to consumer sales. Companies such as Nike don't even bother with LRS. They don't need them. Same with Adidas. The LRS are now very dependent on Brooks for their sales and profits. They push that brand aggressively. Brooks offers the shop owners and floor sales staff incentives to push the brand's shoe which can include area/regional competitions that reward the store sales staff with the highest amount of shoes sold in a given month.
BTW, it's awesome that you and daughter both love running.
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What kind should I go with or do I need to visit those custom gait analysis stores?
For those seeking a casual walking shoe New Balance and Saucony have better options.
From someone that put ~500mi on his Brooks, it was a great shoe. Padding lasted longer than I thought it would. The fit was snug but not uncomfortably tight, which I like. I do a combination of shorter 3mi speed workouts and longer ~8mi runs, with incline bridge repeats thrown in once a week for good measure. In an average week I am easily doing 25mi when I am not training for something, more when I am. My daughter also runs distance track (3200 and 1600) and XC (typically 5k events), and with her training puts in way more mileage than I do. We go through shoes around every 3-6mo, and between the two of us we've probably run on just about every major brand.
My advice if you are running or thinking of running: get fitted. Costs you more up-front (fitting is "free", but the shoes usually cost more at these stores), but it makes a world of difference. Any dedicated running store can do a proper fitting. It usually consists of measuring your foot, sometimes electronically, then running while they record your foot strike. They will then bring you out several shoes and let you try them right there in the store. If you are in the Jax area and PM me I can share where we go. Once you find a shoe you like you can then keep your eye out for deals on that shoe, until you decide to try something else that is. Rinse and repeat.
From someone that put ~500mi on his Brooks, it was a great shoe. Padding lasted longer than I thought it would. The fit was snug but not uncomfortably tight, which I like. I do a combination of shorter 3mi speed workouts and longer ~8mi runs, with incline bridge repeats thrown in once a week for good measure. In an average week I am easily doing 25mi when I am not training for something, more when I am. My daughter also runs distance track (3200 and 1600) and XC (typically 5k events), and with her training puts in way more mileage than I do. We go through shoes around every 3-6mo, and between the two of us we've probably run on just about every major brand.
My advice if you are running or thinking of running: get fitted. Costs you more up-front (fitting is "free", but the shoes usually cost more at these stores), but it makes a world of difference. Any dedicated running store can do a proper fitting. It usually consists of measuring your foot, sometimes electronically, then running while they record your foot strike. They will then bring you out several shoes and let you try them right there in the store. If you are in the Jax area and PM me I can share where we go. Once you find a shoe you like you can then keep your eye out for deals on that shoe, until you decide to try something else that is. Rinse and repeat.
My buddy bought a pair of these for walking and has had foot pain in them.
Those who claim these are too chunky don't know you, just like I didn't know that my buddy would get pains wearing the Adrenalines. All of this is to say, these shoes may work for you, they may not. The internet doesn't know enough and anyone making blanket statements is probably wrong. You should probably do as CodeChimp says and get fitted for shoes if it's your first time and even then the rep will just have you walk or run in them to see how they feel for you. These shoes will work for you if they keep you injury-free and get you out the door. Good luck!
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From someone that put ~500mi on his Brooks, it was a great shoe. Padding lasted longer than I thought it would. The fit was snug but not uncomfortably tight, which I like. I do a combination of shorter 3mi speed workouts and longer ~8mi runs, with incline bridge repeats thrown in once a week for good measure. In an average week I am easily doing 25mi when I am not training for something, more when I am. My daughter also runs distance track (3200 and 1600) and XC (typically 5k events), and with her training puts in way more mileage than I do. We go through shoes around every 3-6mo, and between the two of us we've probably run on just about every major brand.
My advice if you are running or thinking of running: get fitted. Costs you more up-front (fitting is "free", but the shoes usually cost more at these stores), but it makes a world of difference. Any dedicated running store can do a proper fitting. It usually consists of measuring your foot, sometimes electronically, then running while they record your foot strike. They will then bring you out several shoes and let you try them right there in the store. If you are in the Jax area and PM me I can share where we go. Once you find a shoe you like you can then keep your eye out for deals on that shoe, until you decide to try something else that is. Rinse and repeat.
Regarding local running shoe stores I don't know if I would put much faith in their expertise. Most consumers only have access to a Fleet Feet which is corporate controlled and franchise owned. If they're lucky they might have a true independent store within an hour's drive. But regardless, LRS management often employ targets for selling a certain number of orthotic insoles each month. I've read reports on some forums from former employees stating that management would constantly pressure them to addon insoles to shoe buyers. Some employees quit in disgust because they refuse to participate in the charade where the upsell tactics include using 3D foot analysis tools to create an aura of scientific authority.
In recent years most running companies have moved to direct to consumer sales. Companies such as Nike don't even bother with LRS. They don't need them. Same with Adidas. The LRS are now very dependent on Brooks for their sales and profits. They push that brand aggressively. Brooks offers the shop owners and floor sales staff incentives to push the brand's shoe which can include area/regional competitions that reward the store sales staff with the highest amount of shoes sold in a given month.
BTW, it's awesome that you and daughter both love running.
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