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Tesla Model Y
Dual Motor
All-Wheel Drive
Range: 330mi
Top Speed: 135 mph
0-60 mph: 4.8 seconds
Qualify for $7500 Federal Tax Credit with below income cap:
Adjusted Gross Income Limitations
$300,000 for married couples filing jointly
$225,000 for heads of households
$150,000 for all other filers
QA Note: List Price Drop
Rear-Wheel Drive is $43,990
Dual Motor AWD Long Range is $48,490 Now $48,990
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It has been: 0 days since this exact lie was last debunked.
Just 3 hours in fact.
....what?
The Tesla semi is doing over 1000 miles a day- already-
https://electrek.co/2023/09/29/te...i%2Dtrucks.
And doing it vastly cheaper than a diesel truck can per mile.
If you don't understand how revolutionary that is... well, nevermind, I've read your posts, I'm sure you don't
https://www.notebookche
C'mon man-- at least wait 24 hours between repeating the same untrue claims
Model Y is now joining Model 3 in now being cheaper than the US market average price for a new car.
Crazy good value for a brand new car - or car prices in general are now so dumb that Tesla has become the best product for the money in the Sedan/CUV segment.
"The latest shot fired in Tesla's price war came on Oct. 1, when it introduced a new Model Y variant that starts at $4,000 less than the average selling price of a new vehicle in the US. The Model Y is on track to be the best-selling car in the world for 2023" - Bloomberg
https://www.bloomberg.c
Also, Tesla for sure was short on sales volume for the last quarter as they were shy of the target in Q3 (hence the recent price cut few days back).
My question: if more prospective buyers wait for Jan 2024 (due to instant tax credit), Tesla would be under even more pressure to meet their sales numbers for Q4. So they have to go even aggressive to meet Q4 numbers. So does it make sense to wait?
Thanks in advance your perspective.
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where is the guy that try to school me about how the cybertruck was easy to fix?
The Tesla Cybertruck is an all-electric pickup with high insurance rates. The average insurance cost for the Cybertruck is expected to be around $400 a month, or $4,800 a year, three times more than the average cost of $1,300 a year.
source Moter trend article from 2019 and so guess what its even higher now with inflation.
"From the span between 2015 and 2019, Tesla vehicles have been 67 percent more costly to insure than the national average. Model X insurance was 83 percent more expensive than the national average rate for SUV insurance, coming in at $3,042 compared to $1,661."
Tesla needs to work that, might be 10 years
First report of real world Tesla semi:
https://news.yahoo.com/first-inde...00468.ht
First report of real world Tesla semi:
https://news.yahoo.com/first-inde...00468.ht
The most important issue for charging semis is the cost of the electricity. Will it be at retail or wholesale rates?
Here are some numbers that are a few months out of date but still show the real issue. The fuel cost to run a diesel semi for one million miles is $700,000. Running a Tesla semi for one million miles costs $200,000 at wholesale electricity rates or $1,000,000 at retail rates. The difference in the cost of powering it is MUCH greater than the purchase price of the semi.
For Pepsi, who "fuels" its Tesla semis at its own locations paying wholesale electricity rates, experimenting with Tesla clearly makes sense.
Given those numbers, a Tesla semi makes sense for owner/operators if and only if they can charge a Tesla semi at wholesale rates for electricity. Obviously, there are other costs and concerns. An electric should be easier to maintain than a diesel because it is a simpler design with fewer moving parts. A Tesla or other electric semi is a risk simply because it is new compared to very mature and understood diesel trucks. Its hard to imagine any other issue being as important as the factor of 5 difference in cost to power an electric semi.
where is the guy that try to school me about how the cybertruck was easy to fix?
The Tesla Cybertruck is an all-electric pickup with high insurance rates. The average insurance cost for the Cybertruck is expected to be around $400 a month, or $4,800 a year, three times more than the average cost of $1,300 a year.
source Moter trend article from 2019 and so guess what its even higher now with inflation.
"From the span between 2015 and 2019, Tesla vehicles have been 67 percent more costly to insure than the national average. Model X insurance was 83 percent more expensive than the national average rate for SUV insurance, coming in at $3,042 compared to $1,661."
The truck isn't even out. We don't even have pricing or performance specs. In what part of your ass are you pulling these numbers from? No one is "schooling you", we're still stuck in the trying to get you to grasp the idea that the truck is stainless outside and an aluminum chassis underneath. But you're out in left field hanging out in your own imaginary world.
The truck isn't even out. We don't even have pricing or performance specs. In what part of your ass are you pulling these numbers from? No one is "schooling you", we're still stuck in the trying to get you to grasp the idea that the truck is stainless outside and an aluminum chassis underneath. But you're out in left field hanging out in your own imaginary world.
https://www.autoblog.co
Stainless steel is a wonderful material – durable, easy to clean, attractive. And that's part of the reason the DeLorean Motor Company and Italdesign's Giorgetto Giugiaro selected it for the exterior panels of the DMC-12. It would make the car instantly recognizable, like nothing else on the road. That, the gullwing doors, and a certain Robert Zemeckis movie ensured eternal fame.
But as a body material, it has its limitations. Stainless steel can show scratches, but unlike a painted panel you can't simply spray over them. You can abrade the surface to "re-grain" the steel if the scratches are light enough. Dents are even worse, and a real headache for owners. With a painted panel, you can fill a small dent, or pop it out and then use filler to smooth the panel. Paint hides the filler, and the end result of competent bodywork is seamless. But you can't fill a bare panel, so if the dent can't be picked out using special techniques (and requiring a tiny amount of filling and sanding), the panel has to be replaced. Here's a video on what it takes to refinish a DeLorean hood.
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What that means for DeLorean owners is that what could be a minor dent in a regular car could, depending on the panel and location, get expensive quickly. And DeLorean owners are orphans, albeit with some excellent support from the successor DeLorean Motor Company of Texas, so while replacement panels are available generally it's not like the company is still in business and can crank out more as Tesla could.
Tesla, it should be said, is already facing significant production constraints on its existing line, and furthermore is struggling with quality control on finished painted panels already requiring a fair bit of after-sales remedial work. If the stainless panels make it to production on the Cybertruck, Tesla is going to be faced with the daunting task of making sure owners have access to bodywork specialists familiar with the necessary techniques and a large amount of replacement panels. Sure, in the demonstration a guy hit the panel with a sledgehammer and it didn't seem to dent, but who's to say production panels will be that thick or resilient? And a low-speed parking lot accident imparts a lot more force on a body panel than a guy swinging a sledgehammer. More practically, stainless steel is very heavy, and any excess mass cuts into payload, towing, and more important, range.
The DeLorean lesson here is that potential Cybertruck buyers shouldn't necessarily see the stainless panels as a boon. Yes, it's a tough material in lots of applications, but as we note above it's not easy to repair and can be expensive to replace. Nor do many independent body shops have the requisite knowledge – after all, how many DeLoreans would a typical shop repair in its lifetime? There aren't any other stainless-bodied cars out there in significant numbers.
hence why you will be paying an avg of 350-400 a month for insurnace for a cybertruck.
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And at least some models (the ones using chinese battery cells) the $7500 likely becomes $3750 on Jan 1... so might be worth buying before then.
Tesla had 2 of their factories shut down in Q3 for retooling for upgrades-- and they announced way back on their Q2 call they expected lower deliveries as a result of the shutdown turning off production for a few weeks.
Which is exactly what happened.
Even THEN Q3 this year was up 27% over Q3 last year.
Further- with the reduction in inventory discounts and the reduction in the discount a referral gets you, the net-net price hasn't changed significantly with this "cut"
Q4 is already on track (based on ships in transit and other early data) looking likely to be the best quarter Tesla has ever had for deliveries.
Anyway- as I say- if you're looking at one of the models where you might lose half the rebate Jan 1, it definitely doesn't make sense to wait.
If you are looking at one likely to remain $7500 then you don't have that concern.. if you're in no hurry then you've got one pro to waiting in that your car loan (assuming you take one) will be smaller, and thus you pay less total interest, by getting the $7500 up front so might be worth waiting for THAT.
Other wildcard- the highland refresh is not coming to the US this year. It likely IS very early in 2024.
It's unknown if prices will go UP when that happens, so if you're looking at a 3 and are ok missing the refresh changes, it might be significantly cheaper to buy now.
Where did you get insurance rates for a vehicle not on sale yet?
Was it your imagination?
It was your imagination, right?
Wow... my bad, it was someone ELSES imagination! Can I borrow their time machine where they somehow know the insurance rate of a 2023 vehicle not yet on the market and not even finished being designed back in 2019?
Again insurance is HUGELY YMMV not just from one company to the next, not just one state to the next, not just your age, driving record, and # of drivers, but down to your zip+4 and (in some states) your credit score.
Comparing between people with any difference in any of those is pretty pointless.
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