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Tesla Model Y Dual Motor AWD Long Range $48490 + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (For Qualifying Buyers)

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Tesla Model Y

Dual Motor
All-Wheel Drive
Range: 330mi
Top Speed: 135 mph
0-60 mph: 4.8 seconds


Qualify for $7500 Federal Tax Credit with below income cap:
Adjusted Gross Income Limitations
$300,000 for married couples filing jointly
$225,000 for heads of households
$150,000 for all other filers

QA Note: List Price Drop

Rear-Wheel Drive is $43,990

Dual Motor AWD Long Range is $48,490 Now $48,990

Extra Discount for already built ones, change to your zip code and check
https://www.tesla.com/inventory/n...&range=100

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https://www.tesla.com/modely/design#overview

Tesla Model Y

Dual Motor
All-Wheel Drive
Range: 330mi
Top Speed: 135 mph
0-60 mph: 4.8 seconds


Qualify for $7500 Federal Tax Credit with below income cap:
Adjusted Gross Income Limitations
$300,000 for married couples filing jointly
$225,000 for heads of households
$150,000 for all other filers

QA Note: List Price Drop

Rear-Wheel Drive is $43,990

Dual Motor AWD Long Range is $48,490 Now $48,990

Extra Discount for already built ones, change to your zip code and check
https://www.tesla.com/inventory/n...&range=100

Please use the referral link [ts.la] when you purchase one. Thank you!

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Oct 10, 2023
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bimmerboy
Oct 10, 2023
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Quote from DrAlligator :
Remember when Elon called Tesla's appreciating assets and absolute idiot fanboys believed him? I personally know two guys who rushed out to buy one because "the price will go up." And I told them it will NEVER go up over time as the car gets used, gets wear and tear, and loses value due to tech getting outdated. Their response? "No but this is different." I cut out those idiots from my life.

you need those idiots to make these cars cheaper for you to buy...
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VincentV2528
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Quote from MadPup :
That's a broad question. There is a biography out a few a weeks ago, and the author has been on YouTube a lot telling his story. Also, if you dig into any specific issue which is polarizing, you can find other sides. For instance, turning off Starlink just prior to a Ukrainian offensive. People immediately started shouting that he was pro-Russian, but it's not that simple. He is the CEO of multiple global companies selling stuff everywhere. China is a huge market for Tesla. If he's aiding the Ukrainians in that war, it makes the position of him and the company a problem. He claims that he's not taking sides and that Starlink is not for wars. People might disagree with his stance, but at least its understandable. The whole Twitter thing too... he has given multiple interviews on that to argue his case. Again, you might not agree with him but his views aren't exactly extreme. I sure as hell wouldn't want to work for or with him, but I'll buy his products because they're good. Steve Jobs was another less than wonderful human being... but it didn't stop people buy Apple products.
Well said. I don't like or hate musk. I planning to buy one EV very soon and it gonna be model y I think. I like ioniq 5 but those dealers are stopping me from getting one.
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cazic99
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Quote from Knightshade :
It says none of that however.

You can read the entire set of guidelines here:
https://public-inspection.federal...-22353.pdf
The bit I quoted is in there, being quite clear they will not try to recapture overpayments if your liability is less than $7500.


The wording you just claimed does not appear anywhere in the rules regarding this.

It DOES appear in the section on the income cap- which is a completely different matter than the liability limit.
You are seeing it the way you want. There are conflicting opinions. So if I owe no taxes, they refund me through Tesla$7500,

Where Exactly does that money come from?

I don't that will stand up to constitutional challenges like the student loan crap.

They cannot be that black and white saying even if you owe no taxes, the will give you 7500 or it will lose in courts
Oct 10, 2023
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zamzam
Oct 10, 2023
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Dont see a lot of people interested in the Model Y RWD. Is the AWD much better value?
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CaptKirk13
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Quote from bigDeal44 :
Have to TD on principle. Their price shenanigans have made my loan higher than what the car is worth new now 😄
It's called capitalism, supply and demand. As it should be.
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CaptKirk13
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Quote from cazic99 :
You are seeing it the way you want. There are conflicting opinions. So if I owe no taxes, they refund me through Tesla$7500,

Where Exactly does that money come from?

I don't that will stand up to constitutional challenges like the student loan crap.

They cannot be that black and white saying even if you owe no taxes, the will give you 7500 or it will lose in courts
Loophole in the IRS guidelines which states at time of purchase if you release your refund to the Dealer they will not come after you. Read it for yourself.
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CaptKirk13
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Quote from kv120ccc :
Get a better car... dont fall in trap of these cheap publicity
Best vehicle purchase on the market especially with OTA software updates and fixes. No other manufacturers are offering that as they require you to take the vehicle in for service which cost the owner $$$. Not Tesla. Do some research.
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cazic99
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Quote from CaptKirk13 :
Loophole in the IRS guidelines which states at time of purchase if you release your refund to the Dealer they will not come after you. Read it for yourself.
There is a section on excessive payments and 20 percent penalty . It's in there which means IRS with those new 87k agents Biden hired will have lots of beginner cases to break in and practice. That is what I see but I agree it's confusing

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Section 6417(d)(6) provides rules relating to excessive payments. In the case of any amount treated as a payment that is made by the applicable entity under section 6417(af or the amount of the payment made pursuant to section 6417(c), that is determined to constitute an excessive payment, the tax imposed on such entity by chapter 1 of the Code (chapter 1), regardless of whether such entity would otherwise be subject to chapter 1 tax, for the taxable year in which such determination is made is increased by an amount equal to the sum of (1) the amount of such excessive payment, plus (2) an amount equal to 20 percent of such excessive payment. The increase equal to 20 percent of the excessive payment does not apply if the applicable entity can demonstrate that the excessive payment resulted from reasonable cause.
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crazymonkey1208
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Quote from CaptKirk13 :
It's called capitalism, supply and demand. As it should be.
There's no better system than capitalism, absolutely, but it isn't without some faults, i.e. artificially manipulation of supply to increase price. Just look at the last 3 years.
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Edbmsm
Oct 10, 2023
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Quote from mrrame :
​Picked up a Model 3 last month, and the build quality is just not there. You would think after being in the market for 15 years or so, they would have fixed all the issues...

EV cars doesn't hold value like gas cars, and don't count on resale with the crazy price swings.

Having said that, the "dealers" in my area still live in pandemic market and charge crazy mark-ups for the gas car.

If you qualify for the tax credit, Tesla is probably the cheapest EV car to buy now, but don't expect any luxury from it. It will drive you from A to B

I took my brand new car to service the very next day Frown Frown
https://youtu.be/NWZGlN0jdmg
Really? I was with you the whole assessment ... up until the last sentence. Tesla a Point-A-to-B car?? And this coming not from a Y owner, but a Model 3's (with lower CG)?

Whether you/we choose to value / demote the many parameters of a car's total performance (can generalize to "attributes") envelope, its capabilities remain all there.

Since no model was specified, as "all" Teslas are said Point-A-to-B cars, I don't need to give ranges, just: a 3.1 sec 0-60, 162 MPH, .96G, that can also "sip" 94 MPEe @ 75MPH that practically drives itself. Add a bit of luck and it can protect from a run off a 330 ft cliff.

It's a free world. Hate the un-luxurious trim? Jump into a Portofino, ignore maintenance/repair costs, complain the Corinthian leather chaffs- and still get spanked by the A-to-B car. Apples/Oranges? Sure!, it's all First-World problems.

But, hey, I get it, the final demographics show I don't belong (along with Tesla's own Roadster target market) - 75% of NorCal Tesla drivers go under the speed limit, 30% generate risk to fellow drivers from overly-skittish / un-attentive, one was fast/stupid. Just one did a clean/fast/safe pass (easy for a Tesla 3 to do, btw).

So we complain of the insurance cost. Some say it's due to (sandwiched) aluminum body needing rivets/adhesives - btw, done so hopefully less complaints of range/mileage (so much for that) - but it's really because of the fleecing you got from the few body shops that think their certification is a near-monopoly on you. Yeah, in before "Don't hate the player, hate ..."
Also, count your blessings that the insurance calculation for Tesla doesn't seem to add more $$ to the 3 secs time and 470 HP @ 0 RPM- that bad-boy/person factor. But, duh, look at the [zzzzzz] demographics (above). At this relative rate, Portofino owners should be complaining louder than their exhaust rapport.

A useful tidbit for my last paragraph- in case I have failed/wasted the perspective that a Tesla is NOT a point A->B car- The Y-Performance model beats this Long Range one in observed/tested 75MPH range: 230 miles at 98 MPGe vs 220 at 94 (2020 models). I would not rule out the Y-Performance as the better bang for the A-> B buck.

Perhaps I thought the 1990 Acura NSX at the introduction was a little expensive. Perhaps a few weren't born in that few of the times the Roadster mentality got upended. Paradigm-shifting again was the 1KV PM EV motors such as Tesla's.

> Bigshottt : "What a sh!tty little car for $50k."

Forgot to tally the Pinks for Portofino M: From $246,102 .. oops, by definition, _used starting $359K
Last edited by Edbmsm October 9, 2023 at 08:36 PM.
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aifan
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Quote from MadPup :
That's a broad question. There is a biography out a few a weeks ago, and the author has been on YouTube a lot telling his story. Also, if you dig into any specific issue which is polarizing, you can find other sides. For instance, turning off Starlink just prior to a Ukrainian offensive. People immediately started shouting that he was pro-Russian, but it's not that simple. He is the CEO of multiple global companies selling stuff everywhere. China is a huge market for Tesla. If he's aiding the Ukrainians in that war, it makes the position of him and the company a problem. He claims that he's not taking sides and that Starlink is not for wars. People might disagree with his stance, but at least its understandable. The whole Twitter thing too... he has given multiple interviews on that to argue his case. Again, you might not agree with him but his views aren't exactly extreme. I sure as hell wouldn't want to work for or with him, but I'll buy his products because they're good. Steve Jobs was another less than wonderful human being... but it didn't stop people buy Apple products.
I wouldn't hang my hat on that biography. There's been a fair bit of criticism on the quality of sources with that writer. He seems to be whitewashing Musk's image.

The Verge Article about the Isaacson Book [theverge.com]

That author had a questionable Steve Jobs biography too.
Last edited by aifan October 9, 2023 at 08:45 PM.
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404fullPriceNotFound
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Quote from CaptKirk13 :
Best vehicle purchase on the market especially with OTA software updates and fixes. No other manufacturers are offering that as they require you to take the vehicle in for service which cost the owner $$$. Not Tesla. Do some research.
No other manufacturer has this complicated of software that needs constant fixing 🤣
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Quote from cazic99 :
This guy goes over this line by line . https://youtu.be/5-8W2qAvfMo?si=J8agk7a4gH9-Yys9

Regardless, there is quite a bit of confusion, I think k it's just better to buy it before 12-31-23 if you know if you the tax liability this year.

We also don't know if Tesla will raise prices or take away discounts if they have to pay $7500 at point of sale .

Lastly, many models will not be eligible for full $7500, at least not initially .
Here is that uncertainty game that Tesla plays
Oct 10, 2023
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Quote from cloudiett :
I wonder if I should trade in my model 3 for model y. I hate all the interior noise from model 3.
Model Y is noisy also.

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KripalK
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My lexus RX only cost me $700 in maintenance and $500 in taxes and insurance for last one year and may be 1K in gas after 18 years it has begun to pay me back!
Last edited by KripalK October 9, 2023 at 10:13 PM.
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