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Tesla Model Y Dual Motor AWD Long Range $48490 + $7,500 Federal Tax Credit (For Qualifying Buyers)

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Tesla Model Y

Dual Motor
All-Wheel Drive
Range: 330mi
Top Speed: 135 mph
0-60 mph: 4.8 seconds


Qualify for $7500 Federal Tax Credit with below income cap:
Adjusted Gross Income Limitations
$300,000 for married couples filing jointly
$225,000 for heads of households
$150,000 for all other filers

QA Note: List Price Drop

Rear-Wheel Drive is $43,990

Dual Motor AWD Long Range is $48,490 Now $48,990

Extra Discount for already built ones, change to your zip code and check
https://www.tesla.com/inventory/n...&range=100

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https://www.tesla.com/modely/design#overview

Tesla Model Y

Dual Motor
All-Wheel Drive
Range: 330mi
Top Speed: 135 mph
0-60 mph: 4.8 seconds


Qualify for $7500 Federal Tax Credit with below income cap:
Adjusted Gross Income Limitations
$300,000 for married couples filing jointly
$225,000 for heads of households
$150,000 for all other filers

QA Note: List Price Drop

Rear-Wheel Drive is $43,990

Dual Motor AWD Long Range is $48,490 Now $48,990

Extra Discount for already built ones, change to your zip code and check
https://www.tesla.com/inventory/n...&range=100

Please use the referral link [ts.la] when you purchase one. Thank you!

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Oct 10, 2023
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kevinh
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Quote from zamzam :
Dont see a lot of people interested in the Model Y RWD. Is the AWD much better value?
It's really up to you. Is the extra $4500 worth 70 miles extra range and significantly faster acceleration in addition to the benefits of AWD?

It's obviously not a direct comparison but with ICE vehicles, there's typically a $10K-ish bump to move up to the more (A4 to S4 or BMW 328 to m340i). You'll usually get worse mileage moving up to the bigger engine in an ICE car. There's also usually a few grand add on to move to AWD.

In short, you get a LOT of value with that extra $4500.
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MCeatalot
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Quote from Zontrepreneur :
No other manufacturer has this complicated of software that needs constant fixing 🤣
For reals. This is what I don't get about Teslafans bragging about OTA. I still remember the 9.X fiasco where an update essentially changed the screen UI and got people confused for a bit, requiring Tesla to undo it. Voila! We fixed the problem we caused!
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Rob9874
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Quote from Tensoneu :
You keep touting replacement batteries, powertrain on EV in the US is covered at least 8years/100k miles whichever comes first.
We went camping with my wife's uncle (Fox News addict), and he ranted on our Tesla MY all night. He also talked about how we're going to have to replace our battery soon and how much it costs. It's like they all watch the same program that provides false talking points against EVs.

We left the next day, despite original plans of camping all weekend.
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meerkat
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Quote from MCeatalot :
For reals. This is what I don't get about Teslafans bragging about OTA. I still remember the 9.X fiasco where an update essentially changed the screen UI and got people confused for a bit, requiring Tesla to undo it. Voila! We fixed the problem we caused!
Well, this is the same as you cellphone get released, you want ota update or never. Traditional ICE car never due to insane recall cost unless they have to. OTA not only fix things, but also keeps adding new features. With ICE car, you're pretty much pinned to what that particular year model advertised for, to get new or improved features, purchase again next year. EV is pretty much like a smart device, it essentially.is, a mindset change. do you blame cell phone keeps getting OTA, while the landline phone never?
Last edited by meerkat October 10, 2023 at 01:21 AM.
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meerkat
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Quote from jayko23 :
Model Y is noisy also.
Yeah if not more so.
Oct 10, 2023
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DAC21
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Quote from lg_20 :
Hybrid is the King.
I wouldn't hesitate to buy a plug in hybrid when they get the ev only range up into the 50-60 range. That would cover a huge percentage of daily commuter's and take care of the need to stop and charge for the long road trips. At the same get these USA battery plants up and running so more plug in hybrids can get the tax break.
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Dilbertic
Oct 10, 2023
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So if your not making enough to file, would you still get the 7500 ? Retired Smilie


Quote from Knightshade :
The $7500 is applied at time of purchase- you sign a doc transferring it to the dealer.

Then as long as you weren't over the income cap that's it. If you were the IRS will add $7500 to your tax bill for the year.





We know it WON'T offer a $7500 tax credit.





Dude.

It literally DOES says that.

I was directly quoting what it says in the IRS rules







There isn't though.

I literally quoted the IRS guidance that just was published a couple days ago, and it's quite clear.

They will not claw back overpayments if your tax burden is under $7500.

You don't need a youtube video for that, you can just read the literal IRS rule I quoted.





That's... not how any of that works.

Tesla doesn't "pay" anybody $7500. Tesla GETS $7500 from the IRS and takes that off the amount they charge you.

Tesla still gets the same total # of dollars, just $7500 of it comes from the IRS.





I already covered that-- unless they change battery sourcing, or homologate differently, the LFP RWD models likely will lose $3750 of the credit, it's POSSIBLE the LR Model 3 will unless they switch those back to US made 2170s instead of China made ones.

The rest should keep the $7500 (as would cybertruck) since they all use US or Japanese cells.

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Edbmsm
Oct 10, 2023
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Quote from kevinh :
It's really up to you. Is the extra $4500 worth 70 miles extra range and significantly faster acceleration in addition to the benefits of AWD?

It's obviously not a direct comparison but with ICE vehicles, there's typically a $10K-ish bump to move up to the more (A4 to S4 or BMW 328 to m340i). You'll usually get worse mileage moving up to the bigger engine in an ICE car. There's also usually a few grand add on to move to AWD.

In short, you get a LOT of value with that extra $4500.
Totally agree on the value for +$4500.
I suspect Model Y RWD buyers could be budget throttle-steer fans. It's a platform for every level of experience - in stock form and with the MPP Party Box. Note I did not include "Dyno Mode". Just don't go there.

Normally, even a "weak" single e-motor RWD would be a challenge with all that bottom-end torque, but the stock firmware (since Roadster development) calculates lateral Gs, measures wheelspin, preventing spinouts- at _all traction levels, including ice/snow.

The real performance value point (track/street-able) would be a Tesla (Model 3) with dual 980 motors, Ingenext / Ghost module as part of the mod kit (suggested) by "Spec Tesla".
Last edited by Edbmsm October 10, 2023 at 02:34 AM.
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theradiantchild
Oct 10, 2023
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Quote from thehash :
they tried to inflate the price. but cant keep it that high. it will fall further when we get into a recession.
I'm actually ready for one. Prices are way too damn high. I've been saving my money back because it's coming, just a matter of how soon.
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BaaliBandapirrla
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AWD is the only safe option for snowy north eastern states especially comparing how quickly the car accelerates.
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DAC21
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Quote from FishKilla :
Avoiding the costs of an ordinary oil change is enough for the majority of individuals to purchase a Tesla. However, there's a probability that the typical Tesla hardware repair cost will exceed the money you save on standard vehicle maintenance. Tesla repair expenses, according to RepairPal, are 27 percent higher than those for comparable gas-powered vehicles. According to the same report, the average annual repair cost for a Tesla vehicle is estimated to be $832, compared to $652 for a vehicle on average.

https://www.topspeed.com/tesla-re...rue-story/
Never had a Tesla (won't rule it out especiallywhen solid state batteries roll out in a few years) but if what I read about going through expensive roll resistant tires more frequently and increased auto insurance rates is accurate then it's kind of the elephant in the room owners don't bring up much when comparing cost of ownership vs. ice cars. Also comparing a Model 3 vs a Camery they are comparable in size ( 2" difference in wheelbase) yet a model 3 weights 500 pounds more and weight is what tears up roads faster which we all pay for. (If you pay taxes). These are thing to consider, especially ins., before you buy any car.
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DAC21
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Quote from Knightshade :
The $7500 tax credit does not change through Dec 31.


As of Jan 1 it changes in several ways already discussed in the thread, but the main points are:

Good changes:

Credit is now available at point/time of sale so acts like you gave the dealer $7500 more in cash as a downpayment when you take delivery

Credit is no longer limited by your tax liability, effectively making it refundable for folks who previously did not have enough tax liability to get the full benefit



Potentially bad change:

Some models/trims might have the credit reduced to $3750 due to using batteries sourced from China. There is no clear info on which ones FOR SURE, and Tesla could always change battery sourcing to adjust this some, but most likely to lose the extra $3750 would be the RWD/standard range 3 and Y, with the LR AWD 3 being next most likely.


NOT changing:

The income caps (150k single, 300k married filing jointly) remain in place, if you're over that (you get to use either the year you buy or the previous year whichever is better for you) then you get $0.00 in credit-- and if you took the $ as point of sale you will have to pay it back- possibly with penalties- when you file.
So if I understand these IRS rules. If you make too much IRS will claw back the money possibly with penalty. But if you are one of the 40% of Americans that doesn't pay Federal taxes and can qualify for the car loan you are getting the $7500 "tax" discount? Inflation reduction act my a$$. Not a matter of if, but when the Welfare State collapses in anarchy. It has already started in many big cities.
Last edited by DAC21 October 10, 2023 at 03:28 AM.
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romeo4deals
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Clearing the inventory before they launch the Juniper model Y which will have larger range comparable to current LR and but LR increase is due to the facelift and some battery pack changes hopefully latest Model Y sold recently gets some boost in range using software update
Last edited by romeo4deals October 10, 2023 at 04:05 AM.
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GreenIdea3316
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These things are a glorified Honda Civic, only less reliable, and twice the price. Hard pass.
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BigReg
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Quote from Ilker2000 :
Couple things need to be added, EV credit is not refundable so you don't get money back unless you owe tax money. Other thing is that insurance is about the double for any tesla.
Insurance has too many variables to make such a statement. I just replaced a 2016 BMW 340i with a 2023 Model Y Long Range and my insurance only went $1000 to $1160 every 6 months.

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