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expireddelz4stelz posted Nov 13, 2023 07:49 AM
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CyberPowerPC Gamer Master Desktop: Ryzen 7 5700, 16GB RAM, 2TB SSD, RTX 4060 Ti

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Best Buy has CyberPowerPC Gamer Master Mid-Tower Gaming Desktop (GMA5400BSTV9, 2023 model) on sale for $899.99. Shipping is free or select free store pickup where available.

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Product Details:
  • AMD Ryzen 7 5700 8-Core / 16 Thread 3.7 GHz base / 4.6 GHz Boost Processor
  • 16GB (2x 8GB) DDR4 RAM (max 128GB supported)
  • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 8GB GDDR6 Graphics Card
  • 2TB NVMe Solid State Drive
  • 802.11ac WiFi 5
  • Windows 11 Home
  • 600-Watt Power Supply
  • Mid-tower case
  • Gaming keyboard and mouse included
  • Customizable case lighting
  • 7.1-channel High Definition audio
  • Ports:
    • 6x USB 3.1 Type A
    • 2x USB 2.0 Type A
    • 1x HDMI
    • 2x DisplayPort
    • 1x Gigabit Ethernet

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    • This deal is $290 lower (24% savings) than the next best available offer; with prices starting from $1,189.99 and higher.
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Best Buy has CyberPowerPC Gamer Master Mid-Tower Gaming Desktop (GMA5400BSTV9, 2023 model) on sale for $899.99. Shipping is free or select free store pickup where available.

Thanks to community member delz4stelz for finding this deal.

Product Details:
  • AMD Ryzen 7 5700 8-Core / 16 Thread 3.7 GHz base / 4.6 GHz Boost Processor
  • 16GB (2x 8GB) DDR4 RAM (max 128GB supported)
  • NVIDIA GeForce RTX 4060 Ti 8GB GDDR6 Graphics Card
  • 2TB NVMe Solid State Drive
  • 802.11ac WiFi 5
  • Windows 11 Home
  • 600-Watt Power Supply
  • Mid-tower case
  • Gaming keyboard and mouse included
  • Customizable case lighting
  • 7.1-channel High Definition audio
  • Ports:
    • 6x USB 3.1 Type A
    • 2x USB 2.0 Type A
    • 1x HDMI
    • 2x DisplayPort
    • 1x Gigabit Ethernet

Editor's Notes

Written by powerfuldoppler | Staff
  • About this deal:
    • Offer valid for a limited time while supplies last.
    • This deal is $290 lower (24% savings) than the next best available offer; with prices starting from $1,189.99 and higher.
    • Get 1%-5% cash back on deals like this with a cash back credit card. Compare the available cash back credit cards here.
  • Ratings & Reviews:
    • Rated 4.8 out of 5 stars based on over 200 customer reviews.
  • See the forum thread for additional discussion of this deal.

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michi098
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From everything I read, when it comes to gaming, you won't get a 20% improvement from DDR5 over DDR4. Even in a year. I would go with the 4060Ti instead.
Shoryuken23
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DDR5 isn't drastic in my experience. I was able to go from a 12900k/Z690/32GB DDR4 @ 3600 CL14 to a 13700K/Z790/32GB DDR5 @ 6400 CL32 and saw gains of about 5 percent. That's also including a SLIGHTLY better processor in the 13700k. All other components including the GPU stayed the same. Most people should go for the 4060 Ti PC if you ask me.
MellowHalibut9900
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I agree. For most people ddr 5 is only slightly better. The GPU will make way more difference. But For me the processor is the biggest issue here. The 5700 is old and on a platform without much of an upgrade path.

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LinoleumNov 13, 2023 01:48 PM
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Not bad. I think I would prefer the MSI deal for a little less. It has newer CPU & Mobo. Does have a 4060 and 1TB instead of 4060ti and 2TB, but I would prefer the newer DDR5 in the MSI. Could always add another TB of storage for the money saved.
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Quote from btcharpied :
It's a tough choice. The Ti is about 20% better than the 4060, but inferior DDR4. DDR5 is a drastic improvement.

The DDR5 v. DDR4 will more than likely outlast the gap between the 4060Ti and 4060. That 20% GPU gap maybe gives you an extra year depending on game use. Maybe.
From everything I read, when it comes to gaming, you won't get a 20% improvement from DDR5 over DDR4. Even in a year. I would go with the 4060Ti instead.
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Quote from btcharpied :
It's a tough choice. The Ti is about 20% better than the 4060, but inferior DDR4. DDR5 is a drastic improvement.

The DDR5 v. DDR4 will more than likely outlast the gap between the 4060Ti and 4060. That 20% GPU gap maybe gives you an extra year depending on game use. Maybe.

DDR5 isn't drastic in my experience. I was able to go from a 12900k/Z690/32GB DDR4 @ 3600 CL14 to a 13700K/Z790/32GB DDR5 @ 6400 CL32 and saw gains of about 5 percent. That's also including a SLIGHTLY better processor in the 13700k. All other components including the GPU stayed the same. Most people should go for the 4060 Ti PC if you ask me.
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Quote from Shoryuken23 :
DDR5 isn't drastic in my experience. I was able to go from a 12900k/Z690/32GB DDR4 @ 3600 CL14 to a 13700K/Z790/32GB DDR5 @ 6400 CL32 and saw gains of about 5 percent. That's also including a SLIGHTLY better processor in the 13700k. All other components including the GPU stayed the same. Most people should go for the 4060 Ti PC if you ask me.
I agree. For most people ddr 5 is only slightly better. The GPU will make way more difference. But For me the processor is the biggest issue here. The 5700 is old and on a platform without much of an upgrade path.
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Shoryuken23Nov 13, 2023 04:42 PM
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Quote from MellowHalibut9900 :
I agree. For most people ddr 5 is only slightly better. The GPU will make way more difference. But For me the processor is the biggest issue here. The 5700 is old and on a platform without much of an upgrade path.
That's true but those 3d chips are still great. Especially for gaming.
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btcharpiedNov 13, 2023 05:48 PM
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Quote from Shoryuken23 :
DDR5 isn't drastic in my experience. I was able to go from a 12900k/Z690/32GB DDR4 @ 3600 CL14 to a 13700K/Z790/32GB DDR5 @ 6400 CL32 and saw gains of about 5 percent. That's also including a SLIGHTLY better processor in the 13700k. All other components including the GPU stayed the same. Most people should go for the 4060 Ti PC if you ask me.
It's like anything else -- are you pushing it to the limits? If not, then you're not going to see it. But it has a 50% increase in bandwidth compared to DDR4.

It's why I pose the question regarding the GPU itself. Are people buying a 4060 Ti (or even a 4070) because they need it? Or will it be overkill. Most people end up buying things far beyond what they actually need.

Mostly due to not having enough time, the most intensive game I play is Fortnite (which has admittedly advanced a lot in graphics and GPU needs over the last couple of years). There is a high likelihood I won't see a major difference between these two setups as my current setup is a B450M ASRock MB (questionable purchase, admittedly), Ryzen 5 3600, 48 GB of DDR4, and an RTX 2070. It all works absolutely fine, but I'd still like to amp it up some with the Ti or 4070.
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Quote from btcharpied :
It's like anything else -- are you pushing it to the limits? If not, then you're not going to see it. But it has a 50% increase in bandwidth compared to DDR4.

It's why I pose the question regarding the GPU itself. Are people buying a 4060 Ti (or even a 4070) because they need it? Or will it be overkill. Most people end up buying things far beyond what they actually need.

Mostly due to not having enough time, the most intensive game I play is Fortnite (which has admittedly advanced a lot in graphics and GPU needs over the last couple of years). There is a high likelihood I won't see a major difference between these two setups as my current setup is a B450M ASRock MB (questionable purchase, admittedly), Ryzen 5 3600, 48 GB of DDR4, and an RTX 2070. It all works absolutely fine, but I'd still like to amp it up some with the Ti or 4070.

I do push it. I do 4k@120hz and play games like Alan Wake 2, Cyberpunk, etc this is with a 4090. I get what you are saying, and DDR5 does have more bandwidth, but it's not as big of a jump as many think it is.

And most people who make the jump from a DDR4 platform to a DDR5 platform also upgrade their CPUs by a far larger amount. Since I went from a 12900k to a 13700k, which are nearly identical, I was able to see just how little DDR5 actually increases frames.
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Quote from Shoryuken23 :
I do 4k@120hz and play games like Alan Wake 2, Cyberpunk, etc this is with a 4090.

And most people who make the jump from a DDR4 platform to a DDR5 platform also upgrade their CPUs by a far larger amount.
You're an edge case, not the norm. The average person doesn't know what these numbers mean, much less know what to upgrade to min/max performance. "Most people" who jump from DDR4 to DDR5 likely don't even know the difference -- they buy what they're told to buy, because they're told "it's better" or "new."
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ShushiiTNov 13, 2023 10:12 PM
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Quote from btcharpied :
It's a tough choice. The Ti is about 20% better than the 4060, but inferior DDR4. DDR5 is a drastic improvement.

The DDR5 v. DDR4 will more than likely outlast the gap between the 4060Ti and 4060. That 20% GPU gap maybe gives you an extra year depending on game use. Maybe.
ddr4 vs ddr5 is more of a platform prerequisite than an upgrade

am5 and intel 13th and newer require it it's as simple as that

the whole debacle of ddr4 is due to am4 being so good and intel 14-10nm nodes being so bad that intel needed ways to find improvements so they sought it in numbers from ram speed; ryzen didn't care because they were usually locked to 3200mt/s until faster ones came out and more manufacturers started accepting it but it still didn't affect much

your argument would were valid if you were doing a single ram single channel ddr5 then it would kick ddr4 only if it was single channel itself
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Quote from btcharpied :
It's a tough choice. The Ti is about 20% better than the 4060, but inferior DDR4. DDR5 is a drastic improvement.

The DDR5 v. DDR4 will more than likely outlast the gap between the 4060Ti and 4060. That 20% GPU gap maybe gives you an extra year depending on game use. Maybe.
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TealActivity1814Nov 13, 2023 11:17 PM
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Quote from Linoleum :
Not bad. I think I would prefer the MSI deal for a little less. It has newer CPU & Mobo. Does have a 4060 and 1TB instead of 4060ti and 2TB, but I would prefer the newer DDR5 in the MSI. Could always add another TB of storage for the money saved.
Yea but you can't add a ti.
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btcharpiedNov 14, 2023 12:25 AM
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Quote from ShushiiT :
ddr4 vs ddr5 is more of a platform prerequisite than an upgrade

am5 and intel 13th and newer require it it's as simple as that

the whole debacle of ddr4 is due to am4 being so good and intel 14-10nm nodes being so bad that intel needed ways to find improvements so they sought it in numbers from ram speed; ryzen didn't care because they were usually locked to 3200mt/s until faster ones came out and more manufacturers started accepting it but it still didn't affect much

your argument would were valid if you were doing a single ram single channel ddr5 then it would kick ddr4 only if it was single channel itself
That's a nice in-depth explanation. I appreciate that.
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GreyPen3576Nov 14, 2023 01:07 AM
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Gamer Master!!!

I'm not so sure about buying into 8GB video memory anymore.

It could also go for a smaller chassis methinks. So much empty space.
Last edited by GreyPen3576 November 13, 2023 at 05:10 PM.
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