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EcoFlow DELTA Pro 3600Wh Portable Power Station + Smart Home Panel

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EcoFlow has EcoFlow DELTA Pro 3600Wh Portable Power Station + Smart Home Panel on sale for $2588.81 when you apply coupon code EF6PCTOFF. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member MinhTrinh for finding this deal.

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  • Professional electrician installation required; installation fees not included.
  • The portable home battery: DELTA Pro supports a 3.6kWh capacity that can be expanded all the way to 25kWh. The kicker? You can integrate it directly with your home circuits via the Smart Home Panel. Ideal for home backup.
  • Power pretty much anything: DELTA Pro leads the industry when it comes to AC output. With 3600W you've got a portable generator that can power heavy-duty appliances such as dryers, AC units & more. Need even more power? Pair two units together to hit a massive 7200W.
  • A smart home battery system Made specifically for the DELTA Pro ecosystem, the Smart Home Panel connects the DELTA Pro portable power station right to your home's wiring.
  • Backup power for essential home appliances When the grid goes down, the Smart Home Panel instantly switches to battery backup mode using any connected DELTA Pro units. Your home will go on strong with up to 7200W of power and 25kWh of energy when properly equipped.
  • EcoFlow app control Monitor, control, and manage energy through the EcoFlow app. The app gives real-time metrics and lets you avoid peak rates.
  • Peak rate avoidance If you're on a time-of-use billing rate, you can use the Smart Home Panel and attached DELTA Pros to store energy when rates are low and consume it when rates are high.

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EcoFlow has EcoFlow DELTA Pro 3600Wh Portable Power Station + Smart Home Panel on sale for $2588.81 when you apply coupon code EF6PCTOFF. Shipping is free.

Thanks to Community Member MinhTrinh for finding this deal.

Product Details:
  • Professional electrician installation required; installation fees not included.
  • The portable home battery: DELTA Pro supports a 3.6kWh capacity that can be expanded all the way to 25kWh. The kicker? You can integrate it directly with your home circuits via the Smart Home Panel. Ideal for home backup.
  • Power pretty much anything: DELTA Pro leads the industry when it comes to AC output. With 3600W you've got a portable generator that can power heavy-duty appliances such as dryers, AC units & more. Need even more power? Pair two units together to hit a massive 7200W.
  • A smart home battery system Made specifically for the DELTA Pro ecosystem, the Smart Home Panel connects the DELTA Pro portable power station right to your home's wiring.
  • Backup power for essential home appliances When the grid goes down, the Smart Home Panel instantly switches to battery backup mode using any connected DELTA Pro units. Your home will go on strong with up to 7200W of power and 25kWh of energy when properly equipped.
  • EcoFlow app control Monitor, control, and manage energy through the EcoFlow app. The app gives real-time metrics and lets you avoid peak rates.
  • Peak rate avoidance If you're on a time-of-use billing rate, you can use the Smart Home Panel and attached DELTA Pros to store energy when rates are low and consume it when rates are high.

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Written by megakimcheelove | Staff

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bloodwrz
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3.6kWh = 3600 watt hours. That is battery capacity. It can deliver 3600 watts for one hour then it's dead. Or 1800 watts for 2 hours, 900 watts for 4 hrs, etc. Using appliances that consume 500-600 watts each will go quickly. Forget about A/C or electric ovens.
Caleo
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Uh, what? These are 3600W continuous output, with 3.5 kWh worth of storage capacity. That is not really sufficient for running high load/drain devices like a range or central AC. Could one or the other work? Perhaps. Should you rely on that? Probably not.
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Agreed. This is good deal.

Add on $290 ($29 x 10) for the necessary relays and the math looks something like:
$2725 + 290 = $3015 for Delta Pro and SHP.


That's better than I could put together in a similar deal:
Delta Pro standalone: $2449 (Costco price)
Smart Home Panel with relays: $999 (Ecoflow site and others)
$2449 + 999 = $3448

Hmm decisions decisions…

Many lifePO4 batteries are dropping in price at the moment. So the decision between a pre-built system like the Delta Pro vs DIY with separate components is difficult atm.

For those wanting to understand these Ecoflow products and/or other DIY options checkout the Ecoflow subreddit or visit diysolarforum.com. Those are much better places to get technical info rather than SD.

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Quote from edxmon :
My main breaker panel is outside, was wondering if yours is too and how are you handling protecting the smart home panel and Delta Pros? I'm thinking of using s small tool shed that currently stores my lawn mower.
that is exactly what my in law did, fit 2 DP and 2 EB
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zoundsNov 16, 2023 10:24 PM
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Quote from _A2 :
However... they're tremendously inefficient compared to a heat pump, for example! I'm guessing that's what Soloma was trying to say.
Yup, that exactly. When you're talking about generating heat, "100% efficiency" is poor efficiency. Heat is a byproduct of everything else we do with electricity. If you treat an incandescent bulb as a heater instead of a light, it's about 95% efficient (5% of it's power is converted to visible light).

Also, if you're talking about running an electric heater off of stored energy (gas or battery), you've got additional inefficiencies built into the system. I'm having trouble finding good numbers for this, but a rule of thumb I've heard for combustion engines is losing about 70% of the energy to heat. So for every 1000 W you pump into an electric heater, you've lost around 2300 W in heat from the generator.
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Quote from MinhTrinh :
that is exactly what my in law did, fit 2 DP and 2 EB
Thanks for the feedback! Wasn't able to find much about this scenario on the forums. I guess most people have their main panels indoors nowadays.
Nov 18, 2023 05:44 PM
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Quote from drtbar :
This battery is 36,000 watts divided by 240 volts = 150 amps. That will do most everyone's house including electric range and AC assuming range uses about 40 amps, and AC uses probably about the same.

Either way that's a huge capacity battery and looks like you can daisy chain them up. Pretty cool technology. I wonder what the life of the battery is.
I'm guessing this is Lithium Iron Phosphate. If not then may not be worth the price
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XDeckerNov 18, 2023 05:53 PM
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This or the Anker Solix f3800?
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joshuammasseyNov 20, 2023 01:30 PM
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Any way I can use this set up to run my AC powered pool pump during the summer season?
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pfb4everNov 20, 2023 01:47 PM
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Quote from joshuammassey :
Any way I can use this set up to run my AC powered pool pump during the summer season?
If it goes to your Smart Panel and into the breaker, then yes you can. The big thing is if the pool pump is 240V, then it is going to use two relays AND (i believe) you need to have two batteries hooked up to be able to provide 240V split-phase mode. Once I get my 2nd Home Smart Panel up, that's when I am going to connect my pool pump and see what the draw is.

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Not a lot of specifics are known about Ultra yet, including price. It will require a new version of a Smart Panel that does 12 circuits. From the looks of it, it will not be backwards compatible to previous Deltas (not confirmed), which is frustrating folks that invested heavily in the current generation. It definitely will be beefier in max power capabilities & expansion options for whole home protection and off grid usage. Does it have the same drawbacks for hard starter A/Cs and electric stove ranges... who knows?

My one Smart Panel gets professionally installed tomorrow with the two Ecoflows that is going to protect critical systems. I will let you know how it turns out.

I am going to keep the 2nd smart panel and install it myself without Pros yet, so that I can keep the firmware up to date and monitor grid utilization on the remaining circuits... the hope is that I can use it without Pros attached for the short term.

Long term. The hope is that the Delta Pros and extra batteries are going to drop in price (or better refurb deals/bundles) and grow the system piecemeal. If the system gets large enough, I may get a soft starter for my A/C and add that to the 2nd Smart Panel.
So... what I learned this weekend and do I like it? Yes. Build and set expectations against what you are trying to accomplish & prioritize accordingly. It's not perfect, but price point is low enough with some flexibility.

* I paid a pro electrician to install the first one. It is straightforward enough that I am doing the second one myself (and probably a better job w/o rushing). Will re-do the 1st one myself for better cable management.
* Cabling is about 4 ft in length. It gets tight in the smart panel if you don't manage it well from the get go. Plan the runs and don't rush.
* Commission your Smart Panel First WITHOUT turning on the breakers on the main panel (pro electrican got impatient at this point).
------- Instructions & Video was not clear on this OR we mixed up our steps for commissionning ----
** WHAT NOT TO DO - turning all the breakers and adding the batteries before commissioning will FAIL THE WIRING TESTS and leave a weird error that you cannot clear and only get a generic useless logs
** HOW TO FIX - Your wiring is fine if the house is working as normal. Finish commisisoning to the failed test part. Turn off all the breakers including to the Smart Panel. Only run from the Delta Pros. Go to the App and Configure ALL the Ciruits to OFF. Run the Wire Test and it should be good now. Enable the circuits again in the App.
** HOW TO COMMISSION PROPERLY FROM THE START - Keep all breakers off. Plug in Smart Panel to Delta Pros. Open App and commission the Smart panel.

Hope this helps/
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Quote from RyanR3826 :
Needs relay modules, but still seems like a great package if the Delta pro is needed
I received my Smart Home Panel and it comes with an assortment of relays already, so no need to buy separately, unless you need additional ones.
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edxmonNov 22, 2023 08:32 PM
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Quote from pfb4ever :
So... what I learned this weekend and do I like it? Yes. Build and set expectations against what you are trying to accomplish & prioritize accordingly. It's not perfect, but price point is low enough with some flexibility.

* I paid a pro electrician to install the first one. It is straightforward enough that I am doing the second one myself (and probably a better job w/o rushing). Will re-do the 1st one myself for better cable management.
* Cabling is about 4 ft in length. It gets tight in the smart panel if you don't manage it well from the get go. Plan the runs and don't rush.
* Commission your Smart Panel First WITHOUT turning on the breakers on the main panel (pro electrican got impatient at this point).
------- Instructions & Video was not clear on this OR we mixed up our steps for commissionning ----
** WHAT NOT TO DO - turning all the breakers and adding the batteries before commissioning will FAIL THE WIRING TESTS and leave a weird error that you cannot clear and only get a generic useless logs
** HOW TO FIX - Your wiring is fine if the house is working as normal. Finish commisisoning to the failed test part. Turn off all the breakers including to the Smart Panel. Only run from the Delta Pros. Go to the App and Configure ALL the Ciruits to OFF. Run the Wire Test and it should be good now. Enable the circuits again in the App.
** HOW TO COMMISSION PROPERLY FROM THE START - Keep all breakers off. Plug in Smart Panel to Delta Pros. Open App and commission the Smart panel.

Hope this helps/
How much were you charged for the installation? I was quoted $1,500 by an acquantaince who is an electrician. Still want to get additional quotes.

My 2 Smart Panels Were delivered last week, the free 400W solar panel is coming today, but my Delta Pros are still on the East Coast.
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RyanR3826Nov 22, 2023 09:24 PM
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Quote from edxmon :
I received my Smart Home Panel and it comes with an assortment of relays already, so no need to buy separately, unless you need additional ones.
That's an amazing deal in that case!
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pfb4everNov 23, 2023 06:20 PM
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Quote from edxmon :
How much were you charged for the installation? I was quoted $1,500 by an acquantaince who is an electrician. Still want to get additional quotes.

My 2 Smart Panels Were delivered last week, the free 400W solar panel is coming today, but my Delta Pros are still on the East Coast.
$400 for installation including the 30A double breaker for the power and the half foot of two 1 inch conduit tubings with the four associated tube connectors. Anything more than 2.5 ft from the main panel, you are going to need to add a junction box and additional wiring. (Other quotes I was getting started at $700. I think I got the lower quote because of the short distance location & to get a good review on Angie's list)

My second smart panel is about 3ft away with the 1st panel in between. I am hooking it up myself and is costing about $100 of materials.

Infinity cable has been out of stock from Ecoflow. Best place to order right now is https://outboundpower.com/product...nity-cable for $76 shipped free with their BF Special. I just ordered one for the eventual 3rd Delta Pro that I am gonna get.
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Quote from RyanR3826 :
That's an amazing deal in that case!
BTW. You get 5 x 15A, 5 x 20A, and 3 x 30A relays. Unfortunately, my house doesn't go lower than 20A. So, I had to order more 20A directly from Ecoflow, which used my Eco-Credits to knock down price to $35 for a pair (instead of $65). Anything above 15A are out of stock, but I have had luck refreshing on my phone to get them to show in stock and I ordered quickly.

To used Smart Panel, all relays must be populated. Ecoflow support says you can use a higher relay and set the software to trigger at a lower amperage.
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hex4def6Nov 28, 2023 07:02 PM
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Does this thing allow concurrently powering the home grid while utilities are also being used?
For example, say I have solar, and want to charge these from noon-2pm, and then discharge them from 4pm-9pm (TOU rates). Can you set this sort of scheduling? Is there an API?
Let's also say that I'm using 5kW at 5PM, and this thing can only supply 3.6kW. Can you still partially draw from the grid in parallel?

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firelikeiyaNov 28, 2023 07:16 PM
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It's just a battery, not a generator.
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