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expirediconian | Staff posted Nov 24, 2023 11:10 PM
Denon AVR-X4800H 125W 9.4-Channel 8K Network AV Receiver
$1,299
$2,499
48% off
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NOTE: 4800 is always first in the comparisons below, followed by relevance to me and why.
1) 125WPC @ .05% THD vs. 105WPC @.08 THD. Basically, the 4800 amps are better. In my case I use external amplification so not a factor. That said, I read that the 4800 amps are the monolithic design inherited from the 6700, vs. the 3800 (and 4700s) all on one PCB design which is a pretty huge difference in construction. That is probably a contributing factor to why the THD is lower on the 4800 while putting out more power. But... external amps
2) 3 Zone support vs. 2 Zone support. Don't care, ever use the extra zones.
3) 7 HDMI inputs vs. 6 HDMI inputs. This could be handy, the 4800 adds "game 2", although all are assignable. I can easily use 7 HDMI inputs (xboxsex, ps5, switch, PC, UHD player, nvidia shield, steam deck dock, HD-DVD player (yup))
4) 1 component & 2 composite video inputs vs. no analog video inputs. Would be handy for my old systems (Wii, NES, Dreamcast) that I pull out for nostalgia... but an HDMI converter box can be used instead.
5) 3 amp trigger outs vs. 1 amp trigger out. Could be handy, but all of my amps support trigger daisy chaining, so not a big deal.
6) Covered door front panel with navigation panel vs. buttons and ports on front with no cover. In addition to the zone 3 buttons on the 4800, it has the buttons required to do all menu selections, etc. from the front panel, vs. the 3800 you need the remote to do most setup things. I actually miss this, I often will mess with the receiver while being right in front of it, while the remote is in the bedside drawer. I also miss the dust cover... the buttons to indeed get dusty on the front of the 3800. Minor thing though.
7) 29.5 lbs vs. 27.6 lbs. The extra 1.9 lbs is probably due to the better amps... but the 4800 is still more expensive per lb
8) Made in Shirakawa, Japan vs. Made in Vietnam. Rumor has it that A/V components MIJ are better ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, but as with everything else, IMHO it depends on the companies, the factory processes & standards, QA, etc. As long as it works and is well made, I don't much care which foreign place the thing was made.
9) Different remotes, the 4800 has more buttons to support the extra HDMI input and Zone 3.
10) AL32 and HD32 processing vs. ... not? I am not sure if there is a discernable difference in casual watching/listening between the 4800 with it's 32 bit processing vs. the 3800 without it (where Audyssey is 24 bit anyway, and I do use the MultEQ XT32 room correction), so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I *probably* would have gotten the 4800... if for no other reason than given the typical selling prices, MSRPs, etc. it would have been easier to get my money back out of it later... but maybe not. Glad I don't have to make this decision
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Dirac is having a 30% off until the 26th, so comes out to $244.
https://slickdeals.net/f/17081710-30-off-all-dirac-live-licenses-with-promo-code-bf23?v=1
Keep in mind only the new Onkyo/Pioneer/Integra's will get the other half of Dirac DLBC.
DLBC is Dirac's RC for Sub(s) AND bass integration between loudspeakers & subs.
Current Denon 3800 and up, Marantz Cinema 50 and up will get the option sometime this coming year.
Dirac is having a 30% off until the 26th, so comes out to $244.
https://slickdeals.net/f/17081710-30-off-all-dirac-live-licenses-with-promo-code-bf23?v=1
Keep in mind only the new Onkyo/Pioneer/Integra's will get the other half of Dirac DLBC.
DLBC is Dirac's RC for Sub(s) AND bass integration between loudspeakers & subs.
Current Denon 3800 and up, Marantz Cinema 50 and up will get the option sometime this coming year.
Regarding this: "Current Denon 3800 and up, Marantz Cinema 50 and up will get the option sometime this coming year." - Would it be through Firmware update?
Is Dirac Live is essential? Sorry for the noob question, never had a Denon receiver before.
I always used the included mic and system with other Av receivers brands.
Our community has rated this post as helpful. If you agree, why not thank Mike C
NOTE: 4800 is always first in the comparisons below, followed by relevance to me and why.
1) 125WPC @ .05% THD vs. 105WPC @.08 THD. Basically, the 4800 amps are better. In my case I use external amplification so not a factor. That said, I read that the 4800 amps are the monolithic design inherited from the 6700, vs. the 3800 (and 4700s) all on one PCB design which is a pretty huge difference in construction. That is probably a contributing factor to why the THD is lower on the 4800 while putting out more power. But... external amps
2) 3 Zone support vs. 2 Zone support. Don't care, ever use the extra zones.
3) 7 HDMI inputs vs. 6 HDMI inputs. This could be handy, the 4800 adds "game 2", although all are assignable. I can easily use 7 HDMI inputs (xboxsex, ps5, switch, PC, UHD player, nvidia shield, steam deck dock, HD-DVD player (yup))
4) 1 component & 2 composite video inputs vs. no analog video inputs. Would be handy for my old systems (Wii, NES, Dreamcast) that I pull out for nostalgia... but an HDMI converter box can be used instead.
5) 3 amp trigger outs vs. 1 amp trigger out. Could be handy, but all of my amps support trigger daisy chaining, so not a big deal.
6) Covered door front panel with navigation panel vs. buttons and ports on front with no cover. In addition to the zone 3 buttons on the 4800, it has the buttons required to do all menu selections, etc. from the front panel, vs. the 3800 you need the remote to do most setup things. I actually miss this, I often will mess with the receiver while being right in front of it, while the remote is in the bedside drawer. I also miss the dust cover... the buttons to indeed get dusty on the front of the 3800. Minor thing though.
7) 29.5 lbs vs. 27.6 lbs. The extra 1.9 lbs is probably due to the better amps... but the 4800 is still more expensive per lb
8) Made in Shirakawa, Japan vs. Made in Vietnam. Rumor has it that A/V components MIJ are better ¯\_(ツ)_/¯, but as with everything else, IMHO it depends on the companies, the factory processes & standards, QA, etc. As long as it works and is well made, I don't much care which foreign place the thing was made.
9) Different remotes, the 4800 has more buttons to support the extra HDMI input and Zone 3.
10) AL32 and HD32 processing vs. ... not? I am not sure if there is a discernable difference in casual watching/listening between the 4800 with it's 32 bit processing vs. the 3800 without it (where Audyssey is 24 bit anyway, and I do use the MultEQ XT32 room correction), so... ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I *probably* would have gotten the 4800... if for no other reason than given the typical selling prices, MSRPs, etc. it would have been easier to get my money back out of it later... but maybe not. Glad I don't have to make this decision
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In for one. Thank you OP!
I justified with the better build quality and the Audio Science Review of the 4800 being recommended vs the 3800, and potential resale value (although I plan to keep this unit for a very long time). I'm excited!
Bought mine for $2100 in March.
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Regarding this: "Current Denon 3800 and up, Marantz Cinema 50 and up will get the option sometime this coming year." - Would it be through Firmware update?
Is Dirac Live is essential? Sorry for the noob question, never had a Denon receiver before.
I always used the included mic and system with other Av receivers brands.
If you read Onkyo & Pioneer post, Dirac is hit & miss.
I would say a reason is you get no sub/bass integration with Dirac Live.
The nice thing about Denon/Marantz you get another good RC in XT32 and you only pay for Dirac if you want/need it.
Bass integration is critical for an optimal setup.
You don't lose it with XT32 and you will get the option for Dirac's version this coming year, win/win imo.
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