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What does this mean? The quality is super important, and actually, these movies shot on at least 35mm will, if scanned and transfered properly, have an equivalent resolution higher than 4k. The only issue is when the transfer is poor. Like Casino Royale which was shot on film, has a shitty 4k Blu-ray because they were too lazy to make a 4k transfer, so it's just using the 2k intermediary.
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It's not. Seems like a good company that I want to keep selling me 4K UHDs for < $10
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12-05-2023 at 10:02 AM.

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12-05-2023 at 10:02 AM.
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Scam. Just like in photography, the resolution doesn't matter. But the quality. and the quality you get from an 80s movie....
Says the guy that turns on motion interpolation and watches movies on his iPhone.

Look, resolution is not *everything* as others have already mentioned. But in a properly set up home theater with a 45* FOV on a good display (OLED, JVC projector, etc.), a properly transferred UHD disc that originates from properly scanned 35mm film, will unequivocally look better than the Blu-Ray.

Pay attention to SupermanRob or listen to AVRant if you want to actually learn a thing or two.
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SharpNose955
12-05-2023 at 10:04 AM.
12-05-2023 at 10:04 AM.
In for Blue Planet 2 and Training Day in 4k. Bought so much from this place the last few months. Been good experience so far with the exception of an Afred Hitchcock bundle that was pretty beat down. Discs were fine but just a pretty beat down cover box. Didn't feel like wasting my time with an exchange since the disc were fine. $24 for 4 very good Hitchcock films in 4k blu ray is a great deal. Though whoever designed the Hitchcock boxset needs to be fired. One of the worst design and very prone to scratching disc.
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Kahlidan
12-05-2023 at 01:42 PM.
12-05-2023 at 01:42 PM.
What affects the quality of UHD more than most viewers realize, more than resolution or HDR, is the H265 codec and how efficient it is at video compression and the lack of video noise during the mastering. The difference between the 2007 blu-ray and 2017 UHD of Blade Runner is astonishing, despite being mastered from the same 4k scan. Object motion is much more finely resolved, with no discernable artifacting resulting from poor compression. I have an LG C2 and the difference between a older blu-ray typically using VC-1 or MPEG2 and its UHD counterpart is generally huge. This being said, I would strongly recommend avoiding upscaled releases-they offer little to no improvement and are almost scammy the way they're marketed. Thankfully, most studios have realized buyers have wised up and those releases are rare now.
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Vice_Monkey
12-05-2023 at 02:28 PM.
12-05-2023 at 02:28 PM.
Quote from supermanrob :
Clearly, he doesn't know how it works. Unfortunately this always gets misleading/confusing.

What/how a movie was shot in isn't the biggest deciding factor in PQ, how well the movie is transferred does.
PQ isn't just resolution which is the main thing that is improved as mediums change. Other aspects to quality aren't going to see much improvement without a lot more work, and some movies likely look more authentic if not just better at a lower resolution (softened perhaps).
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12-05-2023 at 02:29 PM.
12-05-2023 at 02:29 PM.
Quote from Kahlidan :
What affects the quality of UHD more than most viewers realize, more than resolution or HDR, is the H265 codec and how efficient it is at video compression and the lack of video noise during the mastering. The difference between the 2007 blu-ray and 2017 UHD of Blade Runner is astonishing, despite being mastered from the same 4k scan. Object motion is much more finely resolved, with no discernable artifacting resulting from poor compression. I have an LG C2 and the difference between a older blu-ray typically using VC-1 or MPEG2 and its UHD counterpart is generally huge. This being said, I would strongly recommend avoiding upscaled releases-they offer little to no improvement and are almost scammy the way they're marketed. Thankfully, most studios have realized buyers have wised up and those releases are rare now.
If you are mastering something from film, why would you use any sort of lossy compression? I don't get it.
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12-05-2023 at 02:46 PM.
12-05-2023 at 02:46 PM.
Quote from Kahlidan :
What affects the quality of UHD more than most viewers realize, more than resolution or HDR, is the H265 codec and how efficient it is at video compression and the lack of video noise during the mastering. The difference between the 2007 blu-ray and 2017 UHD of Blade Runner is astonishing, despite being mastered from the same 4k scan. Object motion is much more finely resolved, with no discernable artifacting resulting from poor compression. I have an LG C2 and the difference between a older blu-ray typically using VC-1 or MPEG2 and its UHD counterpart is generally huge. This being said, I would strongly recommend avoiding upscaled releases-they offer little to no improvement and are almost scammy the way they're marketed. Thankfully, most studios have realized buyers have wised up and those releases are rare now.
Fore sure - h.265 is about 30% more efficient than h.264, so you're getting more information even at the same bitrate. Combine that with a larger capacity 66 GB or 100 GB UHD disc, compared to the typical 25 GB or 50 GB standard Blu-Ray disc, and you're packing a lot more info onto that disc. People also don't realize that UHD discs, while quite good, are nowhere near "lossless," though I believe h.265 does include a lossless encoding standard. The studio mezzanine files are huge - this is what Kaleidescape uses to create many of their files, and is why they can (but not always) be better than the UHD disc version. Then consider that the studio mezzanine files are a fraction of the raw files, and you realize that a two-hour movie can be many TB in size raw.

In fact, the moves delivered to the good digital cinemas come on encrypted hard drives with a collection of files called a Digital Cinema Package, usually on a Linux filesystem. I've never seen the contents of a DCP composition, but my understanding is that even compressed, these are closer to 500GB - 1TB per move. It makes me excited for the day that a Kaleidescape-type service is affordable enough to be available to the masses. I'll miss the physical nature of the discs somewhat, but it won't be long before we have 100TB drives capable of storing even higher-quality movies. Ultimately, I'd rather have the quality over the physical media, as long as it can't be easily revoked (i.e. everything you "own" on Vudu / MA).

The real question is whether or not the studios will permit it to happen in a consumer friendly way. I'm sure if they had their druthers, we'd own nothing and stream everything forever. Kaleidescape's paving the way gives me hope.
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12-05-2023 at 03:15 PM.
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If you are mastering something from film, why would you use any sort of lossy compression? I don't get it.
A lossless h.265 file would be too large to fit on any optical disc currently commercially available. This is why Kaleidescape typically attempts to get the mezzanine files from the studios to create their own h.265 files. They can tinker with the compression and quality settings to yield a higher quality file, that's still a reasonable size for download. That said, even Kaleidescape's files are still lossy h.265. Perhaps one day when we all have 10Gbps Internet pipes and Kaleidescape-like services are common, we won't be constrained by such size limitations.
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12-05-2023 at 03:49 PM.
12-05-2023 at 03:49 PM.
If you just want A Christmas Story & A Christmas Story Christmas to stream, Apple iTunes (Movies Anywhere compatible) has them bundled for $10 total (50% cheaper). A Christmas Story 2-Film Bundle by Warner Bros. Entertainment Inc. https://itunes.apple.com/us/movie...1658415826
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12-05-2023 at 07:28 PM.
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Got A Christmas Story and pre-ordered Planet Earth III both for only $1 more than most places are pre-selling PEIII.
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12-06-2023 at 06:58 PM.
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Quote from Kahlidan :
What affects the quality of UHD more than most viewers realize, more than resolution or HDR, is the H265 codec and how efficient it is at video compression and the lack of video noise during the mastering. The difference between the 2007 blu-ray and 2017 UHD of Blade Runner is astonishing, despite being mastered from the same 4k scan. Object motion is much more finely resolved, with no discernable artifacting resulting from poor compression. I have an LG C2 and the difference between a older blu-ray typically using VC-1 or MPEG2 and its UHD counterpart is generally huge. This being said, I would strongly recommend avoiding upscaled releases-they offer little to no improvement and are almost scammy the way they're marketed. Thankfully, most studios have realized buyers have wised up and those releases are rare now.

All true but the color space and brightness (the range from pure black to peak white) should not be dismissed.
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12-07-2023 at 11:07 AM.
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If you have an Amex card, there's an offer where you spent >$15 on ebay and Amex credits $5 in your statement.
I bought 2 films, and like 30 minutes later i got the confirmation from Amex saying that I was eligible to that offer.
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12-07-2023 at 02:47 PM.
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I want to get Jaws 2, but not sure what I should choose for the second movie. Any suggestions? I was thinking Shawshank, but looks like there's no digital code.
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12-08-2023 at 07:46 AM.
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What does this mean? The quality is super important, and actually, these movies shot on at least 35mm will, if scanned and transfered properly, have an equivalent resolution higher than 4k. The only issue is when the transfer is poor. Like Casino Royale which was shot on film, has a shitty 4k Blu-ray because they were too lazy to make a 4k transfer, so it's just using the 2k intermediary.

Shitty? Yea you have no idea what you're talking about. Definitely an upgrade over the blu ray worth buying just not reference quality hardly shitty at all. I have a hard time believing you even watched the movie and based your opinion on the fact its a 4k upscale
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12-08-2023 at 09:02 AM.
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Shitty? Yea you have no idea what you're talking about. Definitely an upgrade over the blu ray worth buying just not reference quality hardly shitty at all. I have a hard time believing you even watched the movie and based your opinion on the fact its a 4k upscale

I agree it being 2K upscaled doesn't really tell you how the PQ looks.

I do agree with him though, that transfer was not very good, especially considering it has no AQ upgrade.
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