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The back panel on the s89c looks identical to the s90c.
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I purchased this TV on Black Friday at Best Buy and it definitely has Filmmaker mode. It's the mode after Movie in the settings menu. It's also definitely a QD-OLED. I took a macro picture of the panel and it only has RGB sub pixels.
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I can confirm that it has Filmmaker Mode.
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Again, one more time this is QD-OLED! Not WOLED! I own this TV, the guy quoting months old articles that are talking about the EU version does not. Again, in EU it was WOLED, in NA it is QD-OLED. Here is the Canadian spec sheet, which shows it is QD-OLED. https://www.samsung.com/ca/tvs/ol...s89cbfxzc/ |
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Here a pic of Sub Pixels showing it is QD-OLED and not WOLED:
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https://imgur.com/a/EfdUVUR https://imgur.com/a/ee706wI https://www.reddit.com/r/OLED_Gaming/comments/182k0fm/comment/kaxrml4/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=w... [reddit.com] Now I am debating between getting an 77s95C (have an excellent open box one waiting to be picked up at $2900) and this 77s89c. <$1000 difference... oh well, YOLO! |
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I got the S89C into the back of my Honda Odyssey, in the box, it was not upright, but didn't have any trouble. I had some seats out to make it fit, but they come in/out pretty easily.
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The s89c has a stand. Different from the s90c but it has legs!
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It's got the same central legs without the bridge in the middle.
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Anapeak values of 588 point towards these being indeed Gen 2 QD-OLED panels.
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Wow, so maybe gen 2? 600+ is suppose to be gen 1 and 512 is suppose to be Gen 2 from my understanding? So 588?
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Somewhere in between? Maybe these are underperforming gen 2 panels? Thats extremely likely given this finding. No wait 512 is 65" It should be 588. Gen 2 confirmed. Buy away lads. Samsung was just drunk. |
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I had time to explore this TV, and so far, I can confirm the existence of a 'Film Maker Mode.' This TV is identical to the S90C, except for a subpar stand. A previous post mentioned a weak sound system, but I cannot verify this as I don't own the S90C. While searching for this TV on BB's mobile app a few days ago, I noticed two TVs with the same description but different titles. The one labeled 'wall mount TV' was priced at $2,999, while this one had a sale price. However, I need help finding the former, leading me to believe that BB is in the process of updating its website. These are essentially the same TV. That being said, I've been unable to access the 'ANA_PEAK' menu or whatever it is. I've taken some pictures for you to see for yourselves. The most noteworthy observation is that the software (SW) is based on the S90C. I'm sharing this information so that people can better understand, as this TV has limited reliable information. I'm not trying to persuade anyone to make a purchase or cancel their order.
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I can confirm that this TV does indeed have FilmMaker mode as well as QD OLED. I compared the sub pixels with my previous 65 inch LG C3. Super stoked about the purchase. Only complaint is the stand is a little flimsy for such a large TV.
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Ah ok, I didn't know it was that easy! DUH! Anyway results here —-> https://imgur.com/gallery/zjrunri
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I returned the S90C 65" I had purchased from Samsung since it was Gen 1 panel and I wanted to go bigger. Picked this up yesterday and wow it's awesome. I don't have a phone that takes macro photos, but I verified the Ana Peak of 588. It also has filmmaker mode.
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EDIT EDIT EDIT This appears to be gen 2 QD as now a screenshot of the service has been posted. Below is old info.
EDIT EDIT: This TV is a mystery. We only know for sure the original press release said WOLED by LG, then when it hit shelves, "Quantum" was quietly added to the item description. No independent testing has been done yet, but Rtings got one delivered Dec 7. No official word from Samsung on what panel it is (chat reps don't count).
My theory (speculation) is these are previously never released 77" Gen 1 panels. Why?
1) Uses a bit more power per specs than an S90C (Gen 1 was less efficient than Gen 2)
2) Only comes in 77" size (the only size never released during Gen 1 fabrication)
3) Probably low production numbers since it's only sold at Best Buy (Gen 1 had low yield issues which Samsung cited as the reason for no 77" QD TVs at first.)
4) They named it S89C implying it's somehow inferior to the S90C in the same way the S90C is to the S95C.
5) It doesn't makes sense to basically sell a S90C under a new name if it's wasn't somehow different to justify the different model number.
Before i get another comment about "Samsung never made a 77" gen 1" no, they never *released* a 77" gen 1. There's a very important distinction there.
Again, one more time this is QD-OLED! Not WOLED!
I own this TV, the guy quoting months old articles that are talking about the EU version does not. Again, in EU it was WOLED, in NA it is QD-OLED.
Here is the Canadian spec sheet, which shows it is QD-OLED. https://www.samsung.com/ca/tvs/ol...s89cbfxzc/
Somewhere in between? Maybe these are underperforming gen 2 panels? Thats extremely likely given this finding.
No wait 512 is 65" It should be 588. Gen 2 confirmed. Buy away lads. Samsung was just drunk.
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https://www.rtings.com/tv/reviews...ifferences [rtings.com]
tl;dr, It depends on where you live / what country. In the USA it's QD-OLED whereas in Europe, it's WOLED.
Across the board for all S89C however, Filmmaker mode is absent if you care about that.
There is no real review of this TV yet, outside of customer reviews and reddit comments. It is a risky unknown until that happens.
There is no real review of this TV yet, outside of customer reviews and reddit comments. It is a risky unknown until that happens.
This is pure speculation, but i highly suspect by price and model number these are previously never released 77" Gen 1 panels. Why?
1) Uses a bit more power per specs than an S90C (Gen 1 was less efficient than Gen 2) 2) Only comes in 77" size (the only size never released during Gen 1 fabrication) 3) Probably low production numbers since it's only sold at Best Buy (Gen 1 had low yield issues which Samsung cited as the reason for no 77" QD TVs at first.) 4) They named it S89C implying it's somehow inferior to the S90C in the same way the S90C is to the S95C. 5) It doesn't makes sense to basically sell a S90C under a new name if it's wasn't somehow different to justify the different model number.
I think what happened Samsung started with the same substrate cut pattern they use today with Gen 2 sheets, but had low yield on the 77" cut outs (as they cited for why there was no Gen 1 77" TVs) and whatever few panels did pass QC were stock pilled. When they had enough to make a SKU (enough for a single reseller to carry anyway) They gave it a SKU 1 less than S90C to show the qualify / performance difference comparison, and didn't bother even making the PR announcements since this was just a quick run to try and recover more revenue for QD development by selling whatever they had (in a closet).
Anyway, pure speculation. Would love to see people jump into service menus and report back the peak ANA or whatever it is that gives us a clue to Gen 1 / vs Gen 2.
This is pure speculation, but i highly suspect by price and model number these are previously never released 77" Gen 1 panels. Why?
1) Uses a bit more power per specs than an S90C (Gen 1 was less efficient than Gen 2) 2) Only comes in 77" size (the only size never released during Gen 1 fabrication) 3) Probably low production numbers since it's only sold at Best Buy (Gen 1 had low yield issues which Samsung cited as the reason for no 77" QD TVs at first.) 4) They named it S89C implying it's somehow inferior to the S90C in the same way the S90C is to the S95C. 5) It doesn't makes sense to basically sell a S90C under a new name if it's wasn't somehow different to justify the different model number.
I think what happened Samsung started with the same substrate cut pattern they use today with Gen 2 sheets, but had low yield on the 77" cut outs (as they cited for why there was no Gen 1 77" TVs) and whatever few panels did pass QC were stock pilled. When they had enough to make a SKU (enough for a single reseller to carry anyway) They gave it a SKU 1 less than S90C to show the qualify / performance difference comparison, and didn't bother even making the PR announcements since this was just a quick run to try and recover more revenue for QD development by selling whatever they had (in a closet).
Anyway, pure speculation. Would love to see people jump into service menus and report back the peak ANA or whatever it is that gives us a clue to Gen 1 / vs Gen 2.
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Now the S90C specs ALSO say " Typical Power Consumption 136" a single row higher, i suspect thats a copy paste error. At least the two lines that are the exact same words in the exact same formating on both spec sheets, show a 27W difference.
Now the S90C specs ALSO say " Typical Power Consumption 136" a single row higher, i suspect thats a copy paste error. At least the two lines that are the exact same words in the exact same formating on both spec sheets, show a 27W difference.
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