Hisense makes a ton of products. They probably collect the same amount of data as any other major electronics manufacturer. I'm not aware of any major campaigns or calls to action against any of their products, policies, or data storage that would make me stay away. As far as reliability, yes, as a major household brand name, I would expect far better quality and reliability out of a Hisense product than a brand like AWOL who is not a major or respected brand name competitor in the field of projectors and electronics.
While this is true of standard and short throw projectors, many UST models have opted to either have a set size or a limited range of sized images they can accommodate. This is because the projector is so close to the wall, to be able to get the uniform focus and clarity needed, they had to be very specific in how it is calibrated which, in turn, limits the variability. Honestly, I still use a long throw projector in my theater and they will continue to be far easier to calibrate for the time being but I don't see the specific sizing as a huge downside of a UST either. The vast majority of the population still use TVs and are perfectly fine with that TV not being able to change size. A laser UST is a projector but still a very different animal in terms of how it needs to be implemented to look its best.
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I am surprised ... is this really a fixed size projector?
I thought USTs can vary screensize with distance (I have a Samsung LS7PT and I can project whatever size on my wall and I *think* the image is fine).
I went on Hisense website and they had this in FAQ:
Can the projected image size be changed?
The projection size changes based on the distance the projector is placed from the wall. The 100" and 120" models are specifically tuned for these projection sizes and paired with screens designed to get the best picture quality possible. Casting a larger or smaller image is certainly possible but there is no manual focus capability.
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So if this Hisense projector is designed specifically for 100" only, it might not be able to focus if moved it back slightly to 120" image size?
I am amazed at my UST projector, it's always focused corner-to-corner, whether I set the image size to be anywhere from 9' to 12' moving it slightly back or forwards. Even when I don't have it perfectly level or square to the wall, the rectangle may be skwered, but always in focus. Always felt the longer-throw projectors were finicky getting all four corners exactly focused, esp some of them I couldn't leave in the middle of the room 24x7, so had to set up again each time I wanted to watch something... I'm not sure if my VAVA UST even has a focus ring ....
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While this is true of standard and short throw projectors, many UST models have opted to either have a set size or a limited range of sized images they can accommodate. This is because the projector is so close to the wall, to be able to get the uniform focus and clarity needed, they had to be very specific in how it is calibrated which, in turn, limits the variability. Honestly, I still use a long throw projector in my theater and they will continue to be far easier to calibrate for the time being but I don't see the specific sizing as a huge downside of a UST either. The vast majority of the population still use TVs and are perfectly fine with that TV not being able to change size. A laser UST is a projector but still a very different animal in terms of how it needs to be implemented to look its best.
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This particular model is fixed throw - it can only be placed to project a 100" image
I'm new to all this ALR screen stuff. I have an old projector mounted to the ceiling with a pull-down screen. How come all the ALR screens I've seen are fixed?
Sorry TLDR so not sure if anyone else already answered you... Traditional protectors are apples and oranges compared to UST.. with USD geometry and straight lines are everything... You have to mount the screen on a perfectly straight and aligned wall, and then you adjust the distance of the UST to the screen to perfectly capture the image. The slightest curvatures or misalignment of your wall with the screen, it will cause a distorted image and it's a headache...
Sorry TLDR so not sure if anyone else already answered you... Traditional protectors are apples and oranges compared to UST.. with USD geometry and straight lines are everything... You have to mount the screen on a perfectly straight and aligned wall, and then you adjust the distance of the UST to the screen to perfectly capture the image. The slightest curvatures or misalignment of your wall with the screen, it will cause a distorted image and it's a headache...
Thanks for explaining that. So I guess it doesn't really work with pull-down screens since those could get wavy or not sit perfectly all the time.
I am surprised ... is this really a fixed size projector?
I thought USTs can vary screensize with distance (I have a Samsung LS7PT and I can project whatever size on my wall and I *think* the image is fine).
I went on Hisense website and they had this in FAQ:
Can the projected image size be changed?
The projection size changes based on the distance the projector is placed from the wall. The 100" and 120" models are specifically tuned for these projection sizes and paired with screens designed to get the best picture quality possible. Casting a larger or smaller image is certainly possible but there is no manual focus capability.
Thanks for details, does it mean I can't project on 120 screen? Or if I do project on 120 inch quality might not be same?
I bought the L9G with a 120" alr screen for $4K last year. This is a great deal. The screen is good quality and does great at absorbing light. I would buy this with the screen even if you wanted a different one considering the price difference is very small compared to what you are getting.
What's difference between the 2 models? L9G came out in 2021 so it's the older model. The L8G seems better (HDMI 2.1, better contrast) and comes with a screen but can't find any reviews on it. This seller and Beach Camera on Amazon are the only ones selling it anywhere.
Edit: Google search for L8G points to Hisense site but if you go to their product lineup it's not listed anywhere. Opening the specsheet for L8G it's actually titled 120L9G. Wondering if model is not really sold in US and would be a warranty nightmare?
What's difference between the 2 models? L9G came out in 2021 so it's the older model. The L8G seems better (HDMI 2.1, better contrast) and comes with a screen but can't find any reviews on it. This seller and Beach Camera on Amazon are the only ones selling it anywhere.
Edit: Google search for L8G points to Hisense site but if you go to their product lineup it's not listed anywhere. Opening the specsheet for L8G it's actually titled 120L9G. Wondering if model is not really sold in US and would be a warranty nightmare?
Hisense makes a ton of products. They probably collect the same amount of data as any other major electronics manufacturer. I'm not aware of any major campaigns or calls to action against any of their products, policies, or data storage that would make me stay away. As far as reliability, yes, as a major household brand name, I would expect far better quality and reliability out of a Hisense product than a brand like AWOL who is not a major or respected brand name competitor in the field of projectors and electronics.
This is a good deal and both Hisense projectors are really good. Unfortunately Hisense CS is pretty terrible. They rolled out a forced update to one of my TVs yesterday that bricked it, hard reset back to forced update, back to brick in a cycle. 0 feedback from Hisense on how to solve it. AWOL CS is top notch surprisingly, smaller company with lower volume I suppose.
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I thought USTs can vary screensize with distance (I have a Samsung LS7PT and I can project whatever size on my wall and I *think* the image is fine).
I went on Hisense website and they had this in FAQ:
Can the projected image size be changed?
The projection size changes based on the distance the projector is placed from the wall. The 100" and 120" models are specifically tuned for these projection sizes and paired with screens designed to get the best picture quality possible. Casting a larger or smaller image is certainly possible but there is no manual focus capability.
I am amazed at my UST projector, it's always focused corner-to-corner, whether I set the image size to be anywhere from 9' to 12' moving it slightly back or forwards. Even when I don't have it perfectly level or square to the wall, the rectangle may be skwered, but always in focus. Always felt the longer-throw projectors were finicky getting all four corners exactly focused, esp some of them I couldn't leave in the middle of the room 24x7, so had to set up again each time I wanted to watch something... I'm not sure if my VAVA UST even has a focus ring ....
EDIT: I see it is paired with a screen after all. this is a solid deal considering what a good ALR screen at this size would cost to buy separately
Sorry TLDR so not sure if anyone else already answered you... Traditional protectors are apples and oranges compared to UST.. with USD geometry and straight lines are everything... You have to mount the screen on a perfectly straight and aligned wall, and then you adjust the distance of the UST to the screen to perfectly capture the image. The slightest curvatures or misalignment of your wall with the screen, it will cause a distorted image and it's a headache...
Thanks for explaining that. So I guess it doesn't really work with pull-down screens since those could get wavy or not sit perfectly all the time.
I thought USTs can vary screensize with distance (I have a Samsung LS7PT and I can project whatever size on my wall and I *think* the image is fine).
I went on Hisense website and they had this in FAQ:
Can the projected image size be changed?
The projection size changes based on the distance the projector is placed from the wall. The 100" and 120" models are specifically tuned for these projection sizes and paired with screens designed to get the best picture quality possible. Casting a larger or smaller image is certainly possible but there is no manual focus capability.
Thanks for details, does it mean I can't project on 120 screen? Or if I do project on 120 inch quality might not be same?
Edit: Google search for L8G points to Hisense site but if you go to their product lineup it's not listed anywhere. Opening the specsheet for L8G it's actually titled 120L9G. Wondering if model is not really sold in US and would be a warranty nightmare?
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Edit: Google search for L8G points to Hisense site but if you go to their product lineup it's not listed anywhere. Opening the specsheet for L8G it's actually titled 120L9G. Wondering if model is not really sold in US and would be a warranty nightmare?
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